Oscar Pistorius Is Free On Bail
Oscar Pistorius is free to shoot up more intruders today after Magistrate Desmond Nair (Side note: Rachel Dratch is right. Every name involved in this case came from the mind of Suzanne Collins.) released him on bail, because the judge doesn't think he's a flight risk. I see what you did there, Magistrate Nair.
After four days of hearing from Oscar's defense and the prosecution, the judge spent two hours today breaking down all of the evidence. Oscar's side of the story is that he thought his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp was a thief hiding out in the water closet so he shot through the door and "accidentally" killed her. My brain burped up a whole lot of question marks when I read Oscar's side of the story. How could he not know that Reeva wasn't in the bed? Why didn't she answer when he shouted at the bathroom door? If Oscar is so paranoid about getting robbed, why did he sleep with the sliding door open and was his security system on at time (I'm guessing not since the sliding door was open)?
Oscar didn't answer the sliding door question, but he did say that it was really dark in the bedroom and he doesn't know why Reeva didn't shout back at him.
The prosecution told the judge that they believe he planned to kill Reeva when she locked herself in the bathroom. Oscar's defense said that they will fight the premeditated murder charge.
The New York Times says that Magistrate Desmond Nair spent nearly 2 hours farting at the mouth about the history of bail and then he said that he doesn't think Oscar is going to get on the next plane to Switzerland, because life as a fugitive with no legs IS HARD! Here's a piece of what he said:
But Magistrate Nair seemed skeptical on Friday about the risk of flight by Mr. Pistorius. “What kind of life would he lead, a person who has to use prostheses, if he has to flee” and found himself “ducking and diving every day” on artificial limbs, the magistrate asked. “His international career would be over in any event.”
“A life not in prison,” Mr. Nel replied, comparing Mr. Pistorius to the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, who has taken refuge in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, despite his “famous face.”
After going on and on about nothing, Magistrate Nair set bail at 1 million rand ($112,000) and confiscated Oscar's passport. The next hearing is on June 4th.
Also, a detective in the case stepped down (or was thrown off the case) after the media found out that he's facing charges for attempted murder.
Does Oscar own a white Bronco, because we all know how this is going to play out. Oscar will be found not-guilty ("If the legs don't fit, you must acquit!"), then he's going to write a book called "If I Did It" and then his defense lawyer's daughters will star in a reality show. We've all seen this movie before!
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I saw this and thought uh oh another OJ Simpson case. This guy is an asshole & he did it!
hope this helps the visual:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-22/pistorius-faces-court-and-photogra...
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there were hundreds of cameras in the courtroom to take his picture and catch him on camera, of course he looks human and sad. Look at me I never meant to....click click click...and filming. Back and front, cameras all over the courtroom.
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Submitted by I AM Afraid on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 6:47pm.
I just can't with you people who find him so hot! Are you fucking crazy? He's a fucking murderer! Would he still be so hot if it was your daughter or sister who he shot full of holes while she tried to save her life by locking herself in a toilet?!? And fuck off with the whole "maybe he's innocent" bullshit too. It's insulting to that poor dead girl's family.
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with you. I'm personally afraid he'll be set free. Keep it coming south africa.
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In summary, he's guilty as sin. I don't only think it, I feel it with every ounce of my being. I know it, that is how convinced I am. It's a mockery that he was even considered for bail after killing her as the ''mystery'' unravels. all over judicial technicalities, while the writing is on the wall.
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Submitted by CodeRed on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:55pm.
and fuck, he's not even that good looking. half bald at 26. imagine in five to ten years? a legless, bald skinny wrinkly handicap mental paranoiac. doesn't get any hotter.
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Submitted by Zorba-the-Geek on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 8:07pm.
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Agreed Zorba, plus he had everything going for him but the image of him losing it and going into a rage that killed his gf, leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
Congrats on the baby news, btw.
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I can't believe the treatment he's getting. Actually, yes I can. OJ all over again, *shaking my head*
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He claims that he was in the bedroom when he heard a noise in the bathroom and immediately assumed it was an intruder. If you look at the floor plan of his house (which was submitted into evidence and is available on various web sites), the bathroom was down a corridor about 22 feet from the bedroom, and the door out of the bedroom was just a few feet away from the bed. If he was acting on instinct, wouldn't he flee out the bedroom door and get to a safe place, rather than grabbing a gun and going down the corridor to confront the intruder - when he had no idea whether the intruder was armed?
Submitted by I AM Afraid on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 6:47pm.
I just can't with you people who find him so hot! Are you fucking crazy? He's a fucking murderer!
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Um, yeah, well I'm pregnant and horny as hell, so yeah I find him really hot. I'd ride this legless bitch cowgirl style, then jump outta the window before he tries to shoot my ass.
I agree with the people saying he will get away with it. His story makes no sense. He also was busted for having steroids in the house, so he is another cheater but that is the least of his worries these days.
I agree with posters who say that he'll probably skate. How soon before the re-start Court TV to cover this circus? We can't rely on an hour of Nancy Grace for all of the stuff happening these days.
I just can't with you people who find him so hot! Are you fucking crazy? He's a fucking murderer! Would he still be so hot if it was your daughter or sister who he shot full of holes while she tried to save her life by locking herself in a toilet?!? And fuck off with the whole "maybe he's innocent" bullshit too. It's insulting to that poor dead girl's family.
Good. I believe him. I think it was just a horrible accident.
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Submitted by chlyn on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 4:33pm.
Yup. I remember being startled by "learning curve." Another anachronism I hear a lot in period pieces is "gay." (It may have been in secret use long ago, but not in widespread use till lately.)
'Fraid I can't wheel out "big girl's blouse" in convo just yet in the US, since most people won't get it. But "one-off" was the same way just 15 years ago.
look at that!
none heard a sound midst the peaceful setting. I guess his talents reach far above and beyond running:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=oscar+pistorius+dogs&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&...
and they didn't come when he HOLLA'D at her either (had they been indoor pets) which kinda makes it stranger had they been outdoor dogs not to spot an intruder and keep quiet.
They were probably hiding scared shitless had they been indoors.
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double post.
it's too unbelievable.
Submitted by RandéSleepover on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 2:43pm.
My researchery tells me it's not a big-girl's blouse but a major "girl's blouse" (i.e., a male pussy). Since it was coined sometime in the 1960s, it'd be out of place in real-world DA (like a few things--especially PC social notions and idioms--in that show).
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Thanks for the lesson! It joins "learning curve" and "stuff" as Downton anachronisms. Go to the corner, all three of you, and stand there until you remember that it's only 1920 at the Abbey.
I didn't think it was "big-girl's blouse" but "big girl's-blouse," as in "big choad," "big creeper," "big blouse."
how far was the powder room, with its closed bathroom and into the powder room doors from his room to hear a faint sound? That is the question. His dog didn't hear a sound, neither did any alarm.
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never mind the witnesses, i don't even care if there were none. Maybe some others closer by were in awe of him, knew him, liked him and well, who doesn't have rows? Maybe between 2-3 am they were sound asleep. None of their business then and none now. Best not to get involved.
Strictly how it went down, and even the ballistic trajectory, says he's lying.
He assumed before checking in bed that it was an intruder. Who does that?!? Wouldn't you nudge her to make sure or to warn her to stay put and keep quiet and call on security? Isn't that the basic instinct if he did that to protect her and him? NOPE, he forged ahead, grabbed his gun and forgetting her completely and his prosthetic legs, he went to shoot four times a LOCKED door down. He didn't wanna wake her up with a nudge but a BANG!
Then he says he ''doesn't know'' why she didn't hear him when he called/yelled/hollered (one would assume) out for her to call the cops and was armed before shooting.
YET, he had the guts to go out in the middle of the night on the balcony to get a fan, close the sliding doors without his legs and stump stump back in, only to panic, grab his gun and whisk to the powder room to gun down a locked door. Makes Sense! Not at all.
so paranoid as to shoot someone, even if it had been intruder, much less his GF who was staying at his place, but not enough to close the balcony door before bedtime and leave windows open. BS.
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Submitted by But.Seriously.Folks on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 2:02pm.
Alot of what was previously reported has turned out to be just rumors. For example, her skull wasn't crushed, she had no defensive wounds, the person who claimed to have heard them fighting lives too far away to have heard anything.
Maybe he is just the dumbest jock ever. I wanna hear the actual evidence...time to separate truth from tabloid histrionics.
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agree, completely.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished for shooting her, but I don't think he intentionally shot her because they were fighting. If they do prove he did, then fry mofo fry
Submitted by The Real Mimi on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 2:38pm.
Probably so. Some women are crazy like that. Scott Peterson has loads of female fans and marriage proposals. Maybe the answer is no SANE woman would :)
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My researchery tells me it's not a big-girl's blouse but a major "girl's blouse" (i.e., a male pussy). Since it was coined sometime in the 1960s, it'd be out of place in real-world DA (like a few things--especially PC social notions and idioms--in that show).
Seriously, even if he gets found not guilty and is sent his way...is any woman ever going to want to spend the night with this dude ever again???
Even with all his money and fame?
You would have to go to the bathroom with the door open just so he knows its you!
a tune for Oscar
Can't tell whether to feel good or bad about the legal system.
Oh Lord.
I'm cracking up!
The judge is so crazy. It's hilarious!
Those pictures of Oscar are insanely great. They captured his soul.
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Submitted by CodeRed on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:55pm.
and fuck, he's not even that good looking. half bald at 26. imagine in five to ten years? a legless, bald skinny wrinkly handicap mental paranoiac. doesn't get any hotter
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He has classic Napoleon syndrome. I'm still fascinated by his fall from grace. To the top and back down in the span of 8 months.
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there's no doubt in my mind he's a very, very sick individual no matter how you flip it.
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Submitted by Bunny Rabbit on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:58pm.
Methinks the judge might be a bit starstruck. I'm pretty sure he'll get acquitted, but since there's no jury system in SA, the victim's family still has a chance for justice.
Speaking of juries, I just finished my jury duty yesterday and when I check my mail, lo and behold, ANOTHER summons. WTF? Thankfully I'm ineligible because I just served, but there's 10 million other people in LA, for fuck's sake.
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ETA- congrats btw.
lol, if only it were the lottery, instead! ;)
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Submitted by kortni_thegreat on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 12:31pm.
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absolutely.
i thought you were razzing me -because i thought everyone knew of the oj thing.
sorry.
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*peddles off in a mint '88 yugo*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvDQy53eldY
just in January a gun ''accidentally', went off as they were dining in a restaurant with Reeva and some other guys. He almost shot the guys foot. I guess he looked at Reeva a little too admiringly. He's an insecure, jealous psycho. Maybe it is true that she received an email on her Ipad from an ex and he blew up over that. He didn't deserve her. He deserved to be with an equally hot amputee. At best. Cuz in his mind, she was better off than he was and it scared him. He must need to be taken care of something extra too. Reality. He was scared of losing her, perhaps. The relationship was still fresh but would she stay with him? An anti violence advocate at that? She had it all. I guess if he couldn't have her, no one could.
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And just so all you Jenaloonies and Brangeloonies know I would read JA's biography if I found it at the dollar store, too. (...) - Submitted by PrettyHateMachine on Thu, 12/27/2012 - 1:09am.
Alot of what was previously reported has turned out to be just rumors. For example, her skull wasn't crushed, she had no defensive wounds, the person who claimed to have heard them fighting lives too far away to have heard anything.
Maybe he is just the dumbest jock ever. I wanna hear the actual evidence...time to separate truth from tabloid histrionics.
Submitted by CodeRed on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:55pm.
and fuck, he's not even that good looking. half bald at 26. imagine in five to ten years? a legless, bald skinny wrinkly handicap mental paranoiac. doesn't get any hotter
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He has classic Napoleon syndrome. I'm still fascinated by his fall from grace. To the top and back down in the span of 8 months.
Hes crzy hot to me but I WOULD NOT, not after what u did sir, no way!!!
Kissing Ass and Cupping Balls. You're Welcome.
Methinks the judge might be a bit starstruck. I'm pretty sure he'll get acquitted, but since there's no jury system in SA, the victim's family still has a chance for justice.
Speaking of juries, I just finished my jury duty yesterday and when I check my mail, lo and behold, ANOTHER summons. WTF? Thankfully I'm ineligible because I just served, but there's 10 million other people in LA, for fuck's sake.
and fuck, he's not even that good looking. half bald at 26. imagine in five to ten years? a legless, bald skinny wrinkly handicap mental paranoiac. doesn't get any hotter.
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:D
"Let them all boil in their own hotdog juice." Deb 7/2012
Thank you, GardeningGirl. /makes room on the train seat for Hekki/
Submitted by Gardening Girl on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:33pm.
Why are people surprised that this pos got bail, it all makes sense - he's white, has money and fame. It's just Blohan justice in this fucked up universe.
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blohan has yet to murder someone.
I don't see how an admitted killer in the wrong, say his story is even buyable or fathomable, could be up for bail.
didn't casey anthony remain in jail for years, all while maintaining her innocence of having nothing to do with her kids death?
we know for a fact, he's violent, has a history of it, he killed her. He is clearly unpredictable and dangerous to anyone, say he gets a case of paranoia again. It's not even self defense against a locked bathroom door, unarmed, innocent, harmless person. He's an aggressor. Unpredictable and now that the stakes are high, will be even more unpredictable. But he knows as well as anyone else he stands a good chance of being vindicated. What good that will do, who knows. It's fucking corrupt South Africa. Pales to America, trust.
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@chlyn, its win-jing.
"Let them all boil in their own hotdog juice." Deb 7/2012
This is nothing like the OJ case. That was clearly planned, it was out right murder. This I don't think was. Sure he did kill her, but I don't think it was planned or the intention.
At worst it was a fight that got out of hand, and best it was as he said. Either way ,he is clearly in pain over what happened, OJ was not.
If it was the first scenario he should go to jail, if it was thr second he should not. Im not going to automatically jump on the 'hes a woman beater' bandwagon, its always the first port of call for feminists these days.
Submitted by chlyn: "Also, I'm getting the two big liars confused - Piss-torious and Lance Armstrong. They've melded into one loathsome person in my mind."
SAME HERE!
Submitted by Gardening Girl on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 1:29pm.
Stop whinging.
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Ah, now's my chance to ask! Is it "win-jing" or "wine-ing"?
Topic: OP is OJ all over again.
Why are people surprised that this pos got bail, it all makes sense - he's white, has money and fame. It's just Blohan justice in this fucked up universe.
"Let them all boil in their own hotdog juice." Deb 7/2012
@kortni, dont worry dear. It was late.
"Let them all boil in their own hotdog juice." Deb 7/2012
anyway, didn't want to come off as that angry about people commenting on his looks, it is just beside the point. But I also know this is Dlisted.
Personally, I'm shocked that a bail hearing would even be considered. I've been following the case in various articles. His family would smile at him on wednesday when the detective fucked up so muc, and would let out LOL'z when the judge wondered if he'd be a flight risk and his attorney said not with his handicap and famous face. AS IF! lolololol. then his brother walked in, looked at him and smiled cuz the case was going their way and he'd be set free. Meanwhile, her family has had nothing to say cuz they just buried her and are mourning her loss still.
and this jackass is going back out and will train meanwhile. All of this is a terrible misunderstanding, an accident, so tragic. He's an athlete and athletes react on instinct (said his uncle or someone from that clan).
Sorry, too bad, but Oscar is an innocent dove who only wanted to protect her.
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Submitted by snowpiece on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 12:44pm.
LOl Lucy, we don't say "big girl's blouse" here I only know it because I am surrounded by Brits.
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Stop whinging.
"Let them all boil in their own hotdog juice." Deb 7/2012
I can't get that expression out of my head. I see a giant blouse with a big bow, like an 80s blouse, waving in the wind. "Don't be like that big thing blowing in the wind."
Also, I'm getting the two big liars confused - Piss-torious and Lance Armstrong. They've melded into one loathsome person in my mind.
Never heard of a big girl's blouse--even on DA. Don't tell me--I'll figure it out.
Submitted by jelliebean on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 12:00pm.
He is a real man and will infer.
hahaha. I loved that thread.
Submitted by vsminimoose on Fri, 02/22/2013 - 12:50pm.
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Bullshit. I just ate a big hunk of devils food cake with white icing with my giant cup of coffee and the two packets of Equal nullified all that shit. Yeah thas right, zero calories. ;-P
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This just doesn't make any sense. His story kept contradicting itself. Do we know the angles of the gunshots? Because he kept claiming he was scared and didn't have time to put on his legs (at first he said that, not sure if it changed) but I could have sworn that the officer said the angles were proper height for him to be wearing them, which meant he had time to scan his room and realize she wasn't in the bed instead of hopping to the bathroom like a weird bunny rabbit and shooting 4 times. Also, wouldn't she have at least screamed once after the first shot? Female burglar in the bathroom? He also said (at first) that he called for her only AFTER the shooting, then put his legs on and ran out to the balcony to shout for help.
Yet earlier he said that after the shooting he 'walked' back into the bedroom.
*confused*
And yeah, KK looks like she needs MOOOOOre (cow) food.