Leave Natalie Portman Alone, So Says Her Piece
Sarah Lane, an American Ballet Theater soloist who was Natalie Portman's double in Black Swan, gave an interview to Dance Magazine in December and said that Fox Searchlight told her to stop talking to the media because she feels they wanted everybody to think that Nat did most of her own dancing. Natalie never thanked Sarah in her acceptance speech and she constantly talked about how the ballet training made her feel like she was going to end up in a casket.
But some hos want to see the Nat's calluses (calluses are the new receipts), because they aren't convinced. And now Natalie's fiance and future baby father is leaping to her defense. Benjamin Millepied trained Natalie and choreographed that shit, so he says he should know. Benjamin tells The L.A. Times:
"It was so believable, it was fantastic, that beautiful movement quality. There are articles now talking about her dance double [American Ballet Theatre dancer Sarah Lane] that are making it sound like [Lane] did a lot of the work, but really, she just did the footwork, and the fouettés, and one diagonal [phrase] in the studio. Honestly, 85% of that movie is Natalie."[I made] things fluid and not too complicated. By getting more movement going, which in turn added to the camera movement — that is basically what I did. If we had kept things more classical, more restrained, less fluid, it would have been harder to trick the eye."
Hmm. Well, my mom taught me to never trust a gold digger who looks like a 1970s era gay porn star/Wrangler jeans fit model, so I say yank the Oscar out of that bitch's hands and give it to its rightful owner: ELIZABETH BERKLEY! Because in the clamp on cinema's nipple called Showgirls, Elizabeth did her own "acting" and pussy poppin'. Hand it over!
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I recall reading an interview with Portman in which she explains turning down a role as a nun because she couldn't imagine being a character who chooses not to have sex. You wouldn't think that would be a big acting stretch. Perhaps she couldn't smell Oscar.
Just the footwork, fouettés and diagonal work!!! Well, I suppose that leaves lots of arm (bras) work for Nat and with those shorty arms of hers that was enough. Her boyfriend is a sleeze by the looks of it and I always thought she was an entitled bitch so this does not surprise. Tough luck for the real ballerina but such is the cruel world of entertainment where actors trump dancers.
Ugly inside, that's what they both are.
Well fitting couple indeed.
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How long before Portman gives this putz his walking papers? After all she got what she wanted out of it (an oscar)
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Of course it wasn't her dancing! It would be like saying Sarah Michelle Gellar did all the stunts on Buffy. Jeff Pruit was such an a*hole when he went all psycho on her because she didn't give his wife enough credit as her double. It was always obvious when they used her stunt double. You could see her face half the time! What was SMG supposed to do? Her job is to sell the story being told, which she did very well.
I liked this movie. It was creepy, and I thought Natalie did a fine job on it. And my friends liked it. Maybe we have bad taste. But her boyfriend totally creeps me out. I'm not into hairy guys, anyway.
Why would Portman thank her dance double anyway? do all actors and actresses include all of their stunt doubles in their speeches? of course not, that's just their job and they get their respective credits at the end of the movie.
I read about how fucked the dancing "world" is, filled with back-stabbings and fear and anxiety and competition, so this dance double is trying to play those tricks on Hollywood and it's not going to work. Sunt doubles, body doubles, etc. don't get "special" recognition there and this chick must understand that. If she wants to get more gigs for shouting to the world how she was the one dancing and not Portman, I think she's going to end up quite dissapointed. I haven't seen the movie, but last time I checked it wasn't about how Portman is the greatest real ballet dancer in the fucking world, but about the mental meltdown of a darn ballerina. Besides, that chick got payment for acting as a double.
Lastly, Portman is an actress.. not a ballet dancer.
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"Hmm. Well, my mom taught me to never trust a gold digger who looks like a 1970s era gay porn star/Wrangler jeans fit model"
Given the stories MK has told about his family I'm prepared to believe this discussion actually took place.
Back to Millipede: he won't say dick against Portman - she's paying his bills.
Sorry it just sticks in my craw that there is so little arts education that the average person can be fooled that any emaciated young woman is a dancer. Even just the way Natalie stands when she's pretending to be a dancer, she looks like there's a stick up her ass. It could be overlooked because it's about the story and she's an actress playing a role, but the idea that any uncoordinated dumpy, uncoordinated little waif gets passed off as a real athletic dancer who's body is a piece of art they've spent years sculpting is just depressing.
Of course she had a double. She should have thanked the double instead of taking all the credit for herself. Her airhead boyfriend is making her look stoopid. Doubles/stuntpeople are the backbone of Hollywood.
Fuck him, fuck the company that made the movie and fuck Natalie Portman. As soon as the movie came out, I tried to find what REAL dancers they were using in the movie.....because guess what, Natalie sucks and it's like night and day between a real dancer and her. You can tell when it's Natalie, she's fucking awful.
What kind of scumbags try to steal the thunder of these fantastic dancers that have devoted their life to an art form, in favor of a stupid Hollywood actress? She got kudos for what she should have, her acting. Let the dancers have credit for their dancing. Portman's a fucking loser for not giving her double and the other dancers credit.
He is a gold digger homosexual. I never heard of a fully straight MALE ballet dancer...so I bet my left nipple that he takes dick on the side. Natalie is an Oscar winner and a beard now.
Oh and whatever dancing Natalie did do must have ended up in the cutting room floor 'cause all I saw in that flick were clever camera movements and dissolves. Overrated piece of shit that flick was BTW.
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I am a ballet dancer and I didn't need anyone to tell me that Natalie had a double. The difference between her upper-body shot movement and the footwork was pretty drastic. I know she was playing an uptight character, but she was also playing a dancer of prima-level skill, who would have had fluidity in her face/neck/shoulders/arms/etc. I mean, even her fingers were awkward. You don't train your whole life and still have awkward hands. Even when I saw her face spinning above the fouette-ing body in the end I knew it had to be cgi.
Her performance was not worth an Oscar, please.
Submitted by Rosemary Young on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:48am.
So Natalie Portman had a dancing double in "Black Swan"? Next you're going to tell me that what Penn and Teller do isn't really magic.
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The point here is that she unfairly won an Oscar mostly based on her portrayal of a ballet dancer, when she didn't do the dancing. The make-believe lies in all the hype surrounding her training to get ready for the "role" (seems a rather too-lofty term to describe her part in this blinged-out horror flick).
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I am no fan of Natalie Portman, she is way overrated, but what does this chick want? No one is denying that she did the tougher parts of the dancing, now they are argung over percentages?
In "Social Network" the Winklevoss twins were played by two guys, for some (but not all) of the scenes they are in. Then they took the face of one of the guys (Armie Hammer) and superimposed it digitally over the other guy's face. It's not a secret, the second guy (Josh Pence) got credit for what he did.
This is a very similar situation, and nothing new in movies, so what is the problem?
Submitted by Serafina on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 1:13pm.
How can he say Lane "did the footwork" but that "85%" was Natalie? Doesn't add up.
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it takes years to be able to dance in pointe shoes, so i am assuming that's what he means. the close-ups of dancer's feet are Lane, not Portman.
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sallytomato -- yes, that is a Bauhaus tattoo. . . as if we didn't have enough reasons to hate on this douche.
How can he say Lane "did the footwork" but that "85%" was Natalie? Doesn't add up.
Submitted by snowpiece on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 9:30am.
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Judging by the article linked in the thread this fool believes he's Baryshnikov and Natalie's his Jessica Lang? Ugh I can't. I expect we'll be hearing that he's auditioning to be an actor now.
Submitted by snowpiece on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 9:30am
Wow snowy you could double for julianne moore.
Gosh, this sounds like 1983 and Jennifer Beals in Flashdance. I remember there was a big boo hoo about that one too.
Sure I believe Natalie Portman can be a ballerina in six months! Can't everyone?
Was it a slip that all-knowing People mag said this guy made a roast chicken for her on Oscar day?
What would a pretentious, preachy vegan want with roast chicken?
No human sacrifice available or is she just a meat-eating phony?
I'm sure I'm late to the party, but please tell me that he isn't sporting a Bauhaus tattoo...
That's him? He looks like he belongs in a 70's porno. How old is he?*
*Edit* MK beat me to it!
please we all know Natalie didn't do much in that movie. All of the feet shots belonged to the other chick. We barely saw full body Nat shots. Those old pervs in the Academy gave her the award because they liked wanking it to a) Natalie and Mila going at it or b) Natalie jacking herself in a little girl's room (or c both).
Submitted by ewe on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:50am.
I get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to take anything away from the ballerina double, but what is it that she expects Nat to say?
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I'm sure she didn't expect Natalie to say she did 90% of the dancing if she didn't actually do it. That would piss me off too. Natalie is an actress and there's no shame in having a body double do the dancing, so why lie about it? Don't take credit for something you didn't do. It's going to come out eventually.
Also to demand that the dancer give no interviews probably helped in Natalie Oscar quest. 'Natalie suffers for her art! Her feet were bleeding from all that dancing' Blah.
I can't stand the disingenuous, snotty Portman or her skeevy baby daddy.
"I made things fluid..."
Freudian slip there?
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Submitted by Green Tea Latte on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:02am.
LEAVE NATS ALOOOOOONE!
The Oscah! is for ACTING not DANCING...nuff said.
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exactly. and that is why I can't figure out why she won. It seems like most people are impressed that she trained as a ballerina for a year, not her crap performance.
I think she is a good actress, I just don't get the hoopla about this performance.
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Submitted by snowpiece on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 11:28am.
well snowy you and jack make a rather cute couple. really...y'all should hang out. ;)
I just can't with this slime ball.
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ditquoi it was mine first, Jack just pasted his dumb face over RAWb's
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ok i'm sorry but black swan wasn't even that good.....there i said it.
Submitted by TheBreakdown on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:42am.
I saw 'Black Swan' and I am still trying to figure out how Portman nabbed an Oscar for starving herself, sticking some digits in her no-no hole, locking lips with another chick, and then cutting a bitch...
I have seen skanks in the club do 90% of that shit and not an Oscar in sight!
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Submitted by parissucksliterally on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:20am.
I know a lot of people who can have a grimace on their face.
Hahaha a "lady" once told me that I always look mad and that life can't be that bad.
LOL
Also, my ex had vestigial nipples. They were faint, and located below his delicious real ones, with their own scanty fur supply.
LOL. Forgot about that!
Submitted by MardiGras: "Ask him who did the dance moves two years from now when they've broken up. Bet it will be a different story.""
Genius point.
LEAVE NATS ALOOOOOONE!
The Oscah! is for ACTING not DANCING...nuff said.
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Submitted by snowpiece on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 9:34am.
OMG snowy you adopted jack's avie? you guys are an item now? mazel tov. :D
that guy dated a WOMAN before Natalie? :D
I guess it does happen...I dated my hairdresser once. Knew him for years...he was straight...somehow. He was black but had a really, really teeny weenie. It was a pleasure blowing him because it was impossible to choke on it. HA HA HA
Um, footwork is one of the most important part of dancing. Most girls can elegantly move their arms already. I don't doubt Natalie had to train hard and workout to look like a dancer, but she shouldn't make it sound like she did it cause she did all the dancing.
I don't think doubles should be thanked at award shows but she should get credit during interviews. Hopefully they will give her credit in the DVD.
Submitted by Datura on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:31am.
I agree with you, but I guess if you really felt like you did the majority of the dancing, hearing someone (Natalie) talk about all of the training and weight loss and physical hardship she had to endure to dance the part would rub you the wrong way. Stunt ballerina should have done interviews long ago so that she wouldn't seem so petty, but she might have been bound by contract not to talk about her part of the work during promotion/awards season.
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I get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to take anything away from the ballerina double, but what is it that she expects Nat to say? "Thank you for dancing for me?" The double knows that she's "just" the double - that's what she signs up for, so why complain about it afterwards. I'm sure it was hard work for Nat prepping for that role, would be for anyone who's not a dancer.
I dunno, maybe it's cos I consider this to be a common sense sort of thing; Nat is an actress not a dancer. Acting is about creating an illusion and some people like to believe it and don't necessarily care/want to know how movies are made or who does the dancing, the stunts etc. And those that do watch "the making of..." and whatever DVD extras there usually are.
So Natalie Portman had a dancing double in "Black Swan"? Next you're going to tell me that what Penn and Teller do isn't really magic.
Cinema is illusion. Actors are vain. Film-makers have always used body-doubles, stunt doubles, voice-overs, and now CGI to enhance performances. And actors (as well as the publicity machine) downplay these tricks as much as possible - both to appease the actors' egos and to make the movie experience more enjoyable for the audience. Isn't it more fun to make-believe?
I wouldn't breed with him.
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I wish they would jete off the fuckin planet, both their smug asses
IA. "Just the footwork and the fouettés..." So, basically the real ballet stuff that takes years and years to perfect. She won the Oscar and now they both need to shut the fuck up.
I saw 'Black Swan' and I am still trying to figure out how Portman nabbed an Oscar for starving herself, sticking some digits in her no-no hole, locking lips with another chick, and then cutting a bitch...
I have seen skanks in the club do 90% of that shit and not an Oscar in sight!
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After watching Black Swan, I think we should al know that ballerinas are cunty, competitive bitches. They should make a sequel where Natalie's double attacks her. "The REAL Black Swan."
But I thought Natalie's dancing in this looked lame. Nothing she did was like, "OMG!" I could tell they only showed her doing the easy stuff that a 5 year old can do on her first day of class.
yes Snowy! now, where's that damn Hamburglar?
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Submitted by ewe on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 10:18am.
I'm confused, since when do actors/actresses acknowledge their doubles? I thought that shit was reserved for DVD extras. This double knew she was there to give the illusion that Nat was doing it, so why the vehement cries for attention?
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I agree with you, but I guess if you really felt like you did the majority of the dancing, hearing someone (Natalie) talk about all of the training and weight loss and physical hardship she had to endure to dance the part would rub you the wrong way. Stunt ballerina should have done interviews long ago so that she wouldn't seem so petty, but she might have been bound by contract not to talk about her part of the work during promotion/awards season.
That makes me think of Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady. Probably her best acting work in her career, but she couldn't qualify for an Oscar nom because she didn't do her own singing. I guess the nominating people thought she only did half of her role. I wonder if that kind of restriction still stands.
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