Pink Thinks More Parents Should Beat Their Kids

As long as you aren't spanking out of anger its alright. However once you've crossed over into the whole "pissed off ass whooping" things can sometimes go to far. The people who have the tendency to do this should never spank a child at all.

I agree with Pink..though not with the extremes, some kids need a smack..some don't, parents should be able to do so when needed, fuck the sissy morons who whine about it..like with all hippie crap they mean well but take it too far.

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While I don't believe that parents should put their kids thru a wall, I do believe that some of these little assholes need their taints whipped for being such dicks. I'm sitting here looking at a $3,400 emergency room bill for my stepson (that's AFTER insurance) who got his shit knocked out by a little prick who's gonna get a visit from the jail fairy in a few short years. Makes me wanna be a corrections officer so I can whoop his ass in prison and then hand him over to Bubba and T-Bone and Tiny as fresh meat.

There is a very thin line between being disciplinarian and being an abusive tyrant, so parents should always be on the lookout to not cross into the dark side.

All children need discipline and sometimes this includes physical punishment and it doesn't mean punching a kid or leaving them bald. Now THAT is abuse.

We have way too many plushie parents raising abusive little brats, it's time to stop.

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You know it's funny-- when I was much younger, my mother was able to stop me dead in my misbehavior simply through an icy stare of disappointment, without EVER laying a hand on me, whereas, my dad was the theoretical disciplinarian/spanker (left bruises on me one time, which I certainly DO NOT condone). I definitely experienced parenting on either spectrum of the disciplinary scale, and yet I still think spanking has its merits, but it's not without its drawbacks. I grew out of the fear of my mother's disapproving looks and idle threats (in fact, at one point I enjoyed the shock value of the reaction), however, the fear of getting "spanked" made me think twice about acting out. The act of my mother grounding me, giving me a timeout, or being sent to bed without dinner, etc., never deterred my poor behavior during early adolescence, because, 1) it was no big deal to me, and 2) the punishment was theoretically reversible (especially with a softy mom who would rather get to the root cause of my behavior by talking things out). When spanked by my father, the pain was immediate, unpleasant, and definitely irrevocable. Spanking was a very simple case of cause and effect for me, and a part of me which shaped the character I am today, I believe in a good way.

My relationship with my mother was extremely strong and communicative and I never held any secrets from her, but for me and my headstrong personality, I do believe that I would have become out of control had I not had some sort of physical punishment looming over me. HOWEVER, it took many more years to communicate with my father as an adult and finally lay to rest the hidden fear I had for him growing up.

I realize that other people have completely different experiences than me, and I also understand that physical contact from a parent can be traumatizing and abusive. I am not attempting to downplay this, however, I feel my parents used this form of discipline as a last resort, and quite honestly, with my venomous tongue and rebellious behavior, I absolutely deserved it, and no amount of talking or timeouts would have remedied this. I definitely think that spanking is appropriate at certain times and can be beneficial.

Oh yeah, and I didn't turn out too bad--I had over a 4.0 in high school and am a Yale graduate.

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I agree with PINK! Some kids are bad and need their ass whooped! I dont agree with child abuse, but im all for spankings!

I don't think any studies have addressed specifically the issue of corporal punishment's effect on childhood development or success. Instead, there are studies that generally look at the overall effect of various forms of discipline (including corporal). But, given the millions of other factors, it would be nearly impossible to construct a study that isolated just corporal punishment as a cause.

I'm sure plenty of educators and psychologists have opined on the issue, but that's not the same as a scientific study.

Yeah Pink you're sooooooooo bad. You're the real thang. OR you're full of anger and act out because you had an abusive father

What I think damaged me, was my mom being really verbally and emotionally abusive towards me from age 13 onwards. It's like when she found it too silly to beat me, she turned to another form of abuse. Unfortunately, here we live with our parents till we get married so I guess I'll have to put up with this for the time being then endure years of psychotherapy later.

For those of you who don't know already, I come from the capital punishment capital of the world, Singapore. All our corner stores (we call them Mama shops because they were predominantly run by Indians and "Mama" means uncle in Tamil) used to sell these colourful, thin, rattan switches called Rotans, http://blogs.straitstimes.com/assets/2008/11/6/ln-canes.jpg?1225951377. I mean you could get them EVERYWHERe for a dollar each.
I used to hide the ones in the house but then, my mom got... creative.

Anywho, I've always wondered what household purpose those rotans served. So I asked around recently and everyone told me they were exclusively for beating! I swear, the rise in Kinder Bastards these few years is directly proportionate to the disappearance of rotans from the Mama stores. I can't wait to have kids so I can whoop their tiny, tender asses!

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Submitted by i_heart_jack on Wed, 11/03/2010 - 9:34am.

"We can all tell our personal anecdotes, but statistically, children who are spanked/hit do not fair better educationally, professionally, etc., than those who were not hit."
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Um...I don't know who wrote that but there's absolutely NO statistic to prove that.

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Anyhoo, there is a difference in a beating and a spanking. Children are indiviuals and call for different types of punishment. What works for one may not work for another. I spank my children, but not all the time nor for any little thing. Usually all I have to do is threaten a spanking and they straighten up. We are very loving and positive towards our children and they know they are loved dearly so I don't think occasional spankings will land them in therapy when they are adults. With that being said, they are very well behaved and random people take notice of it and compliment them constantly.

Here we go again with another spanking thread...

First up: All those who went " Hmm light spanking is Ok, but putting a kid through a wall seems a bit extreme.." DUMB ASSES!

I was spanked well and good by my parents til I was about 13. Then a few slaps ( I hated being slapped more than being caned ) now and then till 16. And yes, some of the beating was unnecessary, unfair and driven more out of anger frustration than my actions but I turned out pretty well. I went to a top university, all my relatives and family friends think I'm an angel and to this day, I swear, they tell my mother or even me directly, how they wish they had a daughter like me (yes, that made me real popular amongst my cousins), how make their kids behave better etc. My younger brother was coddled because he had fits when he was a toddler and he turned out to be a real selfish asshole and can't even get a place in the local university even though he had all the help he needed.

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Cheers to P!ink...it worked for me and kids now-a-days are total fuckin' brats with with no respect to any kind of authority.

Spanking and beating are two different things!

I am not against a spank. Kids these days have gotten control and it is time for parents to take back that control.

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First...sometimes I think Pink is a dude.

Second...Submitted by ISprainedMyUvula on Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:21am. "At the end of the day, it's differnet strokes for different folks. I'd hope nobody thinks they're a better parent for having an "oh, I'd NEVER" stance than someone who doles out a spanking here and there but I'm sure that's not the case. I'd also hope that someone who uses spanking as their go-to with no avail would brush up on those pesky gotta-out-think-this-little-shit skills to find different methods that actually work."

I agree with these sentiments wholeheartedly. To add, I would like to stress that parenting is such a different situation for each family/child. I will say that my mom was a spanker, and because of the type of little fucker that I was (am), after she would spank me, I would go and fuck up some more shit just to get back at her. Now my dad's approach was to give me the silent treatment...this killed me every time and would always draw my ass to an anchor.

I don't know if I'm morally opposed to spanking but I've never hit anyone in my life. I can't imagine starting my life of aggression at the age of 30 against a five- or three-year old. My kids don't seem to be holy terrors as a result of not being hit.

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Whatevs, man. Whatevs.

Some kids do need a swat on the butt now and then, but NO kid needs to be put through a wall. That seems a bit extreme.

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"We can all tell our personal anecdotes, but statistically, children who are spanked/hit do not fair better educationally, professionally, etc., than those who were not hit."

I don't know where those statistics came from, but when I disobeyed, my dad would beat my butt with a hairbrush. And I'm a college graduate and was a paralegal for over thirty years. And I consider myself to be emotionally stable. Personally, I think that spanking a child is the only sure way of getting their attention. Talking to them is not going to make an impression on them. But if bad behavior results in pain, they learn pretty quick what not to do.

Actually if you read any of the numerous psychological studies on discipline, you will see that physical punishment is ineffective and often results in that child displaying violent tendencies of their own. It is common sense, if your child sees that it is ok for you to hit them, then how you can possibly claim that it is not ok for them to hit someone else? Talk about being a hypocrite! Being violent with your child is not the answer, the answer is consistency and discipline. This does mean that you need to hit or spank your child in order to get them to behave. Behavioural techniques are the best way to help your child.

A spanking is only abuse if you bruise your child or hit needlessly. Spanking is a last resort in most cases and not a cureall. Loving and teaching your kids will take you further but I have spanked our kids when the situation warranted it and will do so again.

My husband's best friend has some of the most well behaved kids I've ever seen. They do chores, they behave in public, they're great with eachother. I mean they're seriously dream kids.
And they sure as hell spank. They don't spank for every bad thing that happens mind you, but what they have done has been effective.

Now turn the table to my brother and his wife. They spank their kids ALL the time. And yes, sometimes my neices need it, BUT b/c they do it all the time, it has almost no effect on the girls now. They use spanking as a crutch and it does not work 90% of the time.

I agree with Pink. My cousin's kid is a little effer who is constantly, beating and pushing other children at the playground. My cousin "They just don't understand that he needs his personal space." He hit another kid in the face with his toy truck. I was hoping that other kids mom would have come and whooped that trick .
Hell, I'd like to take off my shoe and beat the crap out of the both of them.

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i beat my kids daily, and hold them down and give them nuggies... of course.. they're cats, and they like it. so, i'm not sure if that counts.

geebus, i despise Pink

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A good spanking is exactly what some kids need. I'm so sick and tired of parents that fear disciplining their kids. The kids know this and run wild in the streets. I’ve seen it time and time again where a child actually says to the parent “you can’t touch me” while smirking at the parent. Fuck that! Grab that little fucker, put him over your knee and turn his ass red until he gets the message. I got spanked a few times for being a little shit and you don’t see me sitting in a bell tower taking shots at people.
We’re not talking about “putting a kid through the wall” literally but a good spanking will straighten most kids out. This is the first generation that was brought up with a hands off approach…it seems to be doing really well eh!?

Submitted by ISprainedMyUvula on Wed, 11/03/2010 - 7:21am

Well written and I totally agree with you. My best friend has 3 little ones, too, and they are the most well behaved children in the world. She's strict, but those kids know who's the boss. If I acted or talked like my niece does today, my mother would have knocked my teefs down my froat and not thought twice about it.

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Doesn't she hate her parents?? Maybe that's why?

I don't agree with the literal breakdown of what she said about beating kids but it also sounds like an overexaggeration. I've seen plenty of kids misbehaving or acting the fool and my first thought is, "Damn, that kid needs their ass beat". Not that I'd condone their parent hauling them off and delivering said ass beating.

I do think there is a ridiculous and dangerous trend of non-parenting that's running rampant. It's not just discipline, it's also the notion that kids somehow give you a free pass to do everything thoughtless, asshole thing on the planet and that parents are no longer accountable for controlling their children. Volume of voices, tantrums, cleaning up after oneself- all things tha have fallen by the wayside for a lot of parents. Kid is screaming in a store? Oh, just ignore him, he'll stop when he doesn't get attention. Kid standing on a booth at a restaurant annoying the people on the other side? SOOOOOOO cute and it's so tough for the little ones to sit properly for sooooo long! Little Johnny won't sit in the cart at the store? Let him run around and knock things down, someone else can clean it up.

My kids are not perfect by any means but we have a high freakin' bar set for them and we refuse to move it. My MIL pissed me the fuck OFF a few months ago by signing off a phone conversation by saying, "Well, I'll let you go and micromanage your kids...". You know what? You want to call it that, fine. At least I can take them out without being embarrassed that they don't know what's expected of them. And yeah, they've been spanked, swatted and been physically removed from public the very few times they've pitched a fit. Nothing I'd consider abusive but also not measures we take regularly because we don't feel we have to.

At the end of the day, it's differnet strokes for different folks. I'd hope nobody thinks they're a better parent for having an "oh, I'd NEVER" stance than someone who doles out a spanking here and there but I'm sure that's not the case. I'd also hope that someone who uses spanking as their go-to with no avail would brush up on those pesky gotta-out-think-this-little-shit skills to find different methods that actually work.

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I LOVE how people with no kids like to tell parents that have kids what they should or should not do. Maybe shes so fucked in the head because her dad put her threw a wall.

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Submitted by Pamela on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 6:51pm

damn girl, you tell it like it is!!!

I like Pink but I wish she was a gayelle so she wouldn't confuse me so much
I don't have kids so I can't comment on her statement, but I could never hit my nieces but I'm not responsible for their upbringing

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I've never liked Pink. I can't stand loud mouthed, nasty, aggressive people like her. People say that she is outspoken, I just think she's rude and obnoxious. It doesn't surprise me that she would condone hitting kids, her whole attitude/personality exudes violence.

I don't agree with people hitting (bashing/beating) their kids. As adults would they allow someone to hit them? Would they allow someone to strike them because they messed up, made a mistake or acted out? I doubt it!

I was hit as a kid and let me tell you I still have emotional scars from it.
My mother was a 'hit first talk later' (never got around to talking lol) type. She was physically (not sexually) and verbally (swore at me, called me names, etc) abusive towards me. It has taken me years to get some type of closure. Although I still struggle with it.

Despite my unhappy childhood I actually love my mum. She had a very rough childhood, alcoholic abusive father, etc. Now I'm an adult I can empathise with my mum and understand she did to me what was done to her. I think I have forgiven her, but it has been bloody hard!

Disclaimer: I am NOT a parent, but hope to be one, one day.

I think hitting children to discipline or teach them is wrong. I feel strongly about that. Resorting to violence and striking out physically means you are unable to communicate properly with your child. Spanking is a poor substitute for communication and patience. God knows I was a rotten teenager, but my parents never hit me.

If Pink didn't make it in music, she would not have been a Harvard graduate living in a beautiful house in the suburbs. She would have been a lot lizard in an abusive relationship living in a trailer park somewhere. Her father did her no favors by beating the shit out of her.

Submitted by will.i.am on Tue, 11/02/2010 - 11:59pm.

I believe in discipline. I wouldn't be the person I am today without it. I don't believe to the extent of putting a kid through the wall. But growing up I got smacked with everything, pulled by my ear out of a shopping centre and when I was 14 I got pulled out of bed by my hair because I slept in till 2 in the afternoon on Mothers Day. Lessons learned!
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I'm sorry you got so whacked so much, but the Mother's Day thing made me laugh for about 5 minutes...

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Right on! Beat the shit out of those lil fuckers!

There's a difference between discipline and spanking. My mother never lay a hand on me; she got her message across in other ways. And it worked. Your kid throws a temper tantrum in the supermarket, you don't have to beat the shit out of them. You just need to let them know that once they start that behavior everything good that was going on stops. I tried to pull that and my mom dropped everything, marched my ass out of the store and put me on a very public, very humiliating time out, locked in the car. I learned quick that if I wanted anything, a tantrum was not the way.

My kid had a playdate with my friend's kid once. All of a sudden this girl starts having a temper tantrum like you've never seen before. Yelling "I hate you, I hate you!" at her mother and everyone else. Kicking doors and all. My daughter and I sat there in complete shock. The mother kept on trying to calm her Regan look-alike down in a sweet tone of voice, with no result. After about an hour we litteraly fled the house. When I spoke to my friend the next day, she basically said that my kid was to blame for being so "bossy", no apologies, nothing. Well, even if my kid had done a Donald Trump on her's (and I did of course tell to keep her managerial inclinations under check), that would have been no excuse for what we witnissed. I would have at least picked the little witch up and put her under a cold shower. So sick of all these kids misbehaving and parents not owning up to their responsibility to instil appropriate social behaviour.

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Pink, I love you girl, but stick to your music. There's a link between kids who have been spanked and those who are violent when they are older. It weakens the parent-child bond, it causes the kids to have little faith in justice, they become more secretive and dishonest. It lowers their self-esteem. It's better to be consistent with your discipline, firm and fair. You are WRONG here!

I believe in discipline. I wouldn't be the person I am today without it. I don't believe to the extent of putting a kid through the wall. But growing up I got smacked with everything, pulled by my ear out of a shopping centre and when I was 14 I got pulled out of bed by my hair because I slept in till 2 in the afternoon on Mothers Day. Lessons learned!

Spanking is something between two consenting adults.

Discipline is guiding a child, through thick and through thin, when they're good (praise as positive reinforcement) and when they're naughty. (And let's face it, in quite a few cases, the hitting stems more from the parent's anger than from the child's behaviour.)

We can all tell our personal anecdotes, but statistically, children who are spanked/hit do not fair better educationally, professionally, etc., than those who were not hit.

Why is M.K. not posting on RHO-ATL? Phaedra (my new name for her is Hydra) has some views on discipline. Of course she can hit her kid, as it will be half demon crawling out of her fetid womb.

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Out of all ma aunts and uncles, my mom was one of the VERY FEW who spanked my siblings and I growing up. Hell she would even occasionally spank and lecture my cousins.
I think my siblings and I turned out well in comparison to many of my cousins.
There were no teenage pregnancies, no drugs, we all graduated high school and attended at least some college, we also are very respectful toward other adults.
I have plenty of cousins who have gone to jail, have gotten hooked on drugs, have been in gangs, and who just are very disrespectful toward their parents.
Getting spanked worked in our case. I don't look back and feel that I was abused. I'm grateful that my mom raised us the way she did: with an iron fist!
(though nowadays I feel my parents should loosen up)

Submitted by Terri on Tue, 11/02/2010 - 8:12pm.
I get complimented often about my 16 yr old son's excellent manners. I will recant to them the story of when he was 3, he threw a tantrum and I told him if he didn't stop, I'd spank the shit out of him. He didn't stop, and I therefore spanked him within an inch of his life. From then on, when i would say "Stop doing (whatever) or I'm going to spank you" he would turn white and snap into good behavior.

It only takes once or twice when they are small and follow-up.
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My mom, an old school southerner, took charge once when I babysat my great nephew, her great grandson. An agreeable kid but a brat when he didn't get his way. His mama spoiled him and I didn't want to spank him due to my experiences getting whippings. He wailed and kicked the bed cuz I told him he couldn't leave the room for being bad.

Mom kept telling me to whip his butt to shut him up. I refused to and he kept wailing louder. She finally came into the room, shooed me out, took a belt and whipped his butt. She said that insane thing some parents do, tell the kid to stop crying while whipping that butt.

But you know what? That little brat dried it up outta fear of being whipped some more by mom, and today he is a fine young man, college educated and the pride of his parents.
They gave him love, encouragement, purpose and direction and when he needed discipline (not much) they gave that too. That's no lie.

Don't tell me whipping your kids if they go too far don't help, it most certainly does.

Submitted by Kandykane on Tue, 11/02/2010 - 9:45pm.

Neglectful parenting as in acting oblivious to your child's behavior and being too irresponsible to raise them to act like civilized human beings, by being too concerned about acceptance to teach responsibility? I think so. In my experience, most of these parents shower their children with materialistic reward for nothing and act oblivious to how their children behave.

The thing is, that by giving these assholes a pep talk is encouraging them to continue misbehaving.

"Oh, mommy didn't hug you enough? That's OK!"

The problem with that approach is that these kids aren't held responsible for their actions until they queef out a litter of their own and become copies of their asshole parents. Repeat cycle.

ETA: If you don't want to smack your kids, I can respect that, but the people who refuse to ground or even raise their voice at their children because they're too afraid of their kids not "accepting" them? Fuck that. I just have a problem with parents who never own up to their children's mistakes or try to act like their best friends. I love my parents. I think they're great people but their responsibility is so much more complex than that as my buddy.
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I agree with Pink. I was spanked and I spank my kids. I hope in the future my kids love their own kids enough to spank them. Where do you think all of this bullying is coming from? It's from kids who see no consequences to their actions and don't give a shit if teachers and parents tell them to stop. Why should they?

My best friend has never spanked and thinks it's so terrible. Well, her kids have some serious behavioral problems. She is constantly stressing about what new and innovative behavioral modification method she should try. She goes on and on (like a couple of the people here) about how creative she is because she comes up with these elaborate punishment and reward systems. They don't work. And you know what? Those creative system aren't really for her kids- they're for her to congratulate herself on her own creativity. No one enjoys spanking their kids, but if you want a fast consequence that sticks, you do it because you love them and care about how they turn out. I care more about that than I do some self-congratulatory mental masturbation about what a creative parent I am.

I love all these cunts whining endlessly about a flippant comment from some sub-mediocre pop star in regards to hypothetically hitting children.

They are the same people who have no problem babysitting their kids with fuckin' Diznee bullshit flicks starring children.

That shit is fuckin' child abuse.

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Broadly calling parents who spank Neanderthals, unintelligent, uncreative and pathetically weak. Seriously? A lot of these comments sound like they're straight from the White Oprah school of parenting.

I'm surrounded by "young adults" who act like assholes because obviously they've never faced a single consequence in their lives. I have to ignore/tolerate disrespectful teens and college kids at work whose mommy and daddy apparently never raised their voices at them once, I guess because they were too fucking scared of hurting their feelings, let alone administer a well-deserved slapdown, yet these fuckers have no qualms whatsoever with abusing/humiliating other students and service persons.

Let me put it this way: If I saw MY kid deliberately throwing food at an employee, I'd smack their asses right in front of everyone. Think that just because you're in high school, you're too old for your parents to slap the shit out of you? It's just highly unusual because if you're a good fucking parent and properly raised your kid that they wouldn't be acting the way that they do toward other people.

Then again, this is the group mentality once they're away from their oblivious parents. God knows that the one thing these little monsters fear most beside from authority is scorn of ANY kind.

When I was bullied in high school, I kept having to report this kid until one day I got so fucking pissed that I dived over a table at him. Well, needless to say, we both found ourselves at the principal's office and whenever this little bastard's father found out what he had been doing to me over the past four consecutive years, his initial reaction was shock: "NOT MY SON!!!!"

He and his friends had the nerve to attempt guilting me with the "abuse" card because his dad apparently beat his ass even though this kid NEVER dared to cross my path again. Mind you, the little prick was a senior when this happened. You're never too old for an authoritative ass-whooping, but I feel as though had his parents raised him the right way, they wouldn't have ever needed to spank their 18 year old loser.

Like I said, I've been spanked infrequently during my childhood but they all stopped by the time I was nine or ten years old. However, I guess that only some parents teach their children how to treat others. I know that had I been throwing food at people and bickering with teachers that I wouldn't be able to sit for a fucking month.

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I work at a restaurant and I CANNOT tell you how many times I see kids sit on the tables, scream, act up, fight, bicker, leave HUGE messes and all the parents do is go "now now, little angel, don't do that," while the kids carry on. I want to spank the shit out of some of those kids.

Growing up with a Croatian grandma meant my brother and I would get the "siba" (aka the switch) when we misbehaved...and if she couldn't get the siba, she'd get the "kuhace" (aka the ladel/wodden spoon) and both of those words were enough to put the fear of God into any of our hearts. I'm in my early 20s and I still NEVER DARE disrespect my grandmother or anyone else.

I'm all for spanking for discipline. It's either that or do nothing and have your kid turn into a Suri Cruises

Okay, I'm off my soapbox!

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