RiRi Thinks She's Right
Some French speakers think that RiRi's “Rebelle Fleur” neck tattoo really read "Le Dumb Ass" because they say it is grammatically incorrect. They say that in French the adjective always shows up before the noun, so her neck tattoo should say “Fleur Rebelle" instead. But according to OK! Magazine, RiRi thinks she's right and knew before she got the tattoo that bitches would jump on her ass for it.
RiRi allegedly wrote her tattoo artiste the following text message before she came into his shop to get tapped with a needle: “rebelle fleur translates to rebel flower, NOT rebelious flower, its 2 nouns so in that case fleur does not HAVE to be first! Fyi, cuz they will ask”.
All the French I know I learned from Pepe Le Pew, so I'm not the one to comment on whether RiRi's shit is right or wrong. And honestly, I'm more concerned that somewhere in the world there's a sad Emo clown with a cold head.
Here's Flower Rebellious or Rebel Flower (or WHATEVER) struttin' into a club in NYC last night after performing at MSG.


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This reminds me of Britney putting "strange" on her ass in Chinese, when she really wanted "mysterious."
I agree with the poster about these celebs getting cheap tattoos when they have all this money.
Also, I don't even remember any French that well, but even I know that the adjective comes last. I learned that in seventh grade!
But, *wretch* in her *wretch* defense *wretch*, high school French classes at my school didn't learn jack shit beyond nouns. All they did was watch movies, eat pastries, and go on field trips. Maybe that's how she fucked it up.
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R.I.P Ronnie James Dio :(
What's up with all of these artsy fartsy attention whores and all things French? France couldn't be THAT pretentious, FFS.
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R.I.P Ronnie James Dio :(
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Submitted by Hekki on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 8:47pm.
Submitted by prancing_nougat: "It's French - Montenegro style!"
Who ARE you? I love you.
I think that I was over-analyzing the tattoo as a proper title as if she was calling herself a rebellious flower as Beyonce calls herself Sasha. Hmmm... multiple-personalities seems to flow freely in diva-types.
The two schools of thought for the capitalization of French titles comes from Le Petit Robert and Le Bon Usage. I think that they both came up wiht differing views to give themselves a reason to keep publishing. I'm more of a Petit Robert/Becherelles kind of girl.
I'm of Acadian descent and live in Eastern Canada, but speak both French and English.
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Submitted by prancing_nougat on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 1:00pm.
In terms of capitalization, it could be spelled "La Fleur-rebelle" or "La fleur-rebelle" because there's two different schools of thought on how to capitalize in French.
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You could only use "La Fleur-rebelle" if Fleur-rebelle was a proper noun i.e. someone's name. I've never heard of 2 schools of thought regarding capitalization. (My mother tongue is French).
What a dumb fuck.
@Oyster: Agreed. This tattoo could be much improved if she'd used Comic Sans MS or Arial instead.
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Actually, the only thing I really like is the script.
It is very neat and clear.
I would use her tattoo artist to script something on me, but nothing else.
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its kunstler script from Adobe Photoshop ... I'm a tattoo artist, this is generally our "default script" when the client won't pay enough for us to custom design one.
From the small size and lack of detailed concerning of all her tattoos, I think she's probably a cheap idiot, the worst kind of customer, bane of the tattoo artist.
I've never seen an interesting or well done tattoo on a celebrity. With all of their money and ability to travel they could easy have some of the most sought-after, impressive ink in the world, instead, they get misspelled cheap crap all over them.
Submitted by kieranx on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 12:52pm.
She shoulda gotten "rouge douche" on there instead.
You make me hate my hips! I hate my hips!
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Ok U DumbAss biatch RiRi “Rebelle Fleur” is “Rebelle Fleur” translated in english because it doesn't translate like that. “Fleur Rebelle”
translates to Rebellious Flower in english.
RiRi is just so fucking dumb, i'm starting to like Chris Brown for smacking some sense into this bitch.
Her face structure always reminds of Jim Carey's in The Mask.
Submitted by prancing_nougat: "It's French - Montenegro style!"
Who ARE you? I love you.
I really wanted to like her when she first came out because many of her heavily manufactured tracks are on heavy rotation during my runs & weight training BUT...yeah, she's annoying as fuck with her desperate attempts at "creativity." And that tat looks hoodratty & already old.
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I love tattoos but she's addicted and it's getting excessive and not cute.
her hair looks like bloody shit (le shitte rouge?)
and if you have to explain your tat, it's a fail!
and oh yeah, not that Chris Brown was right....but can people start to see how her yappiness could twerk a nerve so bad you wish to slam her face into a hard object. Cuz I could totally see her yapping at me and me sitting there fighting real hard not to shut her mouth up with a strategic bitch slap. Her pussy must be real good for Chris to have put up with it as long as he did before he snapped...
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Submitted by babybunny on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 2:47pm.
bitch, cunt, whore, slut, fuckers and fucking are mandatory to write if you comment on dlist. Did you not get your booklet???
Submitted by dusted on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 6:05pm.
what's the French for "giant freak head"?
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Le freakhead grande...
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Sorry, Roger, you are tiger now...
Someone needs to translate Pretentious Dipshit for her.
Isn't her 15 mins up yet?
what's the French for "giant freak head"?
BTW, generally in French, most adjectives do follow the noun but there are special ones that always precede the noun and they deal with Beauty-Age-Goodness-Size. For example: Belle amie - Jeune fille - Mauvaise odeur - Petite maison. Rebel is not one of the above and neither is she a rebel. The French word she should have tattooed on her tenhead is POSEUSE (poser). Leçon over.
It is meaningless tripe no matter which order she chooses. Meaningless also applies to everything else about this piece. These are skinny days for excellence in entertainment.
I shoulda used RiRi's logic ("cuz ppl will ask") when trying to hand in a 6th grade paper (incorrectly) titled "La Francais Revoulution".
At least RiRi processes information on a sixth grade level, which is more credit than I gave her before. My excuse? I was eleven.
Débile fleur...
Atleast the font is pretty.
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Hood rat tat.
"And now you hookers and ho's know how I feel..."
- Snoop/Dr. Dre
Ok you know what?
WHY the fuck did she not just write: Rebel Flower? WHY? It makes no sense. In the past - and maybe now - people used their knowledge of (FRANCE) French as a way to exploit their intelligence. But this girl is not a thinker. She's never pretended, before this, to be a thinker? Did Lady Gaga make her nervous or what? (Lady Gaga uses French to show off her prep schooling) Rebel Flower is a perfectly cute idea in ENGLISH. The French is just unnecessary and flawed and totally ruins everything. Bah!
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Oh! Well if she looked it up, then it's okay. Fuck all the people who actually SPEAK Frech. Dumb ass.
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Submitted by Datura on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 2:10pm.
Do they speak French patois in Barbados? I
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I thought they might too but no - they're a British Colony. Canada had some dealings but never France.
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What's the point of havin' a rapier wit if I can't use it to stab people?
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It's actually fleur rebelles, dumbass.
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What's the point of havin' a rapier wit if I can't use it to stab people?
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Do they speak French patois in Barbados? I'm not suggesting that she's not a dumbass, but pidgin languages often play by their own rules.
I learned French from my parents. It's their native language, and they taught it to me along with English from early childhood, and I still make mistakes with grammar/pronunciation of idioms.
Edit: had to fix some spelling errors in English. Ugh. I suck in two languages. lol.
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Masturbation is not a GD game of Clue, there is no reason to head to the broom closet with a rope and a lead pipe. --michelleb
I have some rebellious flowers growing in my parsley pot, myself, so I can totally relate to what RiRi is trying to say here. Those pesky little green weeds won't go away!
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Submitted by prancing_nougat on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 1:00pm.
In terms of capitalization, it could be spelled "La Fleur-rebelle" or "La fleur-rebelle" because there's two different schools of thought on how to capitalize in French.
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You could only use "La Fleur-rebelle" if Fleur-rebelle was a proper noun i.e. someone's name. I've never heard of 2 schools of thought regarding capitalization. (My mother tongue is French).
when given the choice whether to believe native french speakers vs rhianna, i choose the beret wearing bastards every time. they got their shit locked. riri dated chris brown.
baguettes 3 rhianna -2000
She's wrong, it should indeed read "Fleur rebelle". Pauvre conne!
Submitted by P.T.Bull on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 12:10pm.
Now that I think of it, french for Ho is Heaux.
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No! "Ho" is singular and "heaux" is plural.
Hos (hoes?) = heaux
GET IT RIGHT DAMMIT. BEFORE YOU TATTOO IT ON YOUR FUCKING NECK! lol
Who gives a fuckity?
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Have an open mind - but not so open that your brain falls out.
Adjectives don't *always* go after the noun in French - most of the time but not always.
What I thought when I first saw it yesterday was that her tattoo was a play on "belle fleur" (which *is* correct with the adjective coming first).
But I guess that was giving her too much credit.
Now she just looks dumb trying to 'splain it. These are the risks you take when getting a tattoo with words/characters in a language or slang you don't understand.
It could be worse: at least it doesn't say "minge".
yes.
Either way, she still looks dumb, ghetto and cheap IMO.
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who gives a fuck?! I cannot believe someones tattoo is creating this much press
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Submitted by P.T.Bull on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 12:45pm.
Actually I learned french in school:
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You should demand to get your money back =)
(or get a french tattoo)
As another who spend a few years studying the language, I agree with those who think she's a dumbass.
Although really, why should anyone even attempt to convince her that she's wrong? Let her go around looking stupid. That seems to be her thing.
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It's French - Montenegro style!
But seriously, adjectives always go behind the verb in French. Even if she backpeddles to say the tattoo is comprised of two nouns, you would still put "rebelle" behind "fleur" in French.
And don't get me started about it not having an article in front of it. Only proper names do not have articles in front of them, if I remember my French grammer correctly.
Also, if it was a compound-noun it would take a hyphen, as other people have said. In terms of capitalization, it could be spelled "La Fleur-rebelle" or "La fleur-rebelle" because there's two different schools of thought on how to capitalize in French.
vSubmitted by Jeanneee on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 12:32pm.
Girlfriend is looking GHETTO.
LMAO, totally, and the worst part is the star tattoo into the ear, looks so cheap that I just can't.
Like I said yesterday, celebs always come back to tell us that their tattoos aren't wrong, they're not dumb...WE are dumb, THEY are artistic, they are putting together unique, world-shattering, never before heard or understood phrases and tattooing them on themselves, not incorrect mumbo jumbo that they trusted their tattoo artist to put on correctly (every tattoo artist is fluent in every language, right?)...right...Oh Rihanna, while you're explaining misspelled, I mean, brilliant tattoos to us please tell us why the tattoo you have that is written in Sanskrit is also wrong? No, no it's the people in India that are reading it wrong, right?
Ridiculous.
I don't get why anyone gets tattooed anyway, no one cares anymore, it's not impressive, it's not edgy, it's tacky.
She shoulda gotten "rouge douche" on there instead.
You make me hate my hips! I hate my hips!
Submitted by ricki lake on Fri, 08/13/2010 - 12:40pm.
PS On topic: Rihanna is still a dumb fucking whore, and I still wish Chris Brown had finished the job when he had the chance.
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Awwwww, ricki lake, that's not nice.
You must miss having a TV show because now you are so mean! *LOL*
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Right or wrong, that's still some retarded shit to get tattooed on your neck.
Actually I learned french in school: The plume de la aunt is in the bureau de la uncle.
Yet, in a surprise ironic twist we learn: The plume de la uncle is in the bureau de la aunt!