Mel Gibson Is Such A Loving Father
In a sixth audio tape that Radar released yesterday, Mel Gibson doesn't deny shit when Oksana Grigorieva accuses him making Lucifer's cackle stronger by hitting their baby daughter Lucia. Mel's lawyers told the child abuse claim to blow them, but OctoSana has picture proof! Radar Online just so happened to get a hold of OctoSana's proof and they published it just like they did with that picture of her with cracked veneers.
The picture of a then 2-month-old Lucia is here, so hold up your magnifying glass. Radar claims that the small abrasion on Lucia's chin was caused by Mel's fist during a fight with OctoSana.
Oksana told authorities that she was holding Lucia when Mel punched her in the mouth and then in the left temple, causing her to fall backward onto a bed.She says the Oscar-winning actor/director then put a forearm across her throat and used the palm of his free hand to cover her face, causing her to gasp, struggle and fear for her life.
“Oksana said right after the incident, she observed blood and a small abrasion on Lucia’s chin, which was not there before the incident,” said a source, who is familiar with the law enforcement investigation.
“She photographed the abrasion that night.” Those photos are now evidence.
The picture has already been seen by the L.A. County Sheriff's Department and Child Protective Services.
To me, the picture looks like the "before" in an ad for Proactiv's new line of baby products. I see a baby pimple. But Mel Gibson would decapitate a baby bird with his teeth if it dipped its claws into his Jacuzzi, so I don't put anything past him. And instead of pixelating Baby Lucia's eyes, someone should pixelate Mel's face permanently.
In other Mel Gibson and a Vasectomist Should Hang Out news, TMZ reports that he allegedly threw OctoSana's 12-year-old son into a table at a party last year when the boy tried to playfully knock a cigarette out of his mouth. OctoSana's side called it abuse, but Mel's side said the boy accidentally fell by himself and he never harmed him.
OctoSana's son obviously hasn't read the surgeon general's warning on every pack of cigarettes which states: Don't ever try to knock one of these out of Mel Gibson's mouth.
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Submitted by El Bastardo on Thu, 07/22/2010 - 2:30am.
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don't forget "Gallipoli".
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I didn't ask to be hated
I just don't mind being a bitch.
(Courtney Love)
I don't think any of us Oksana detractors have been saying she deserved the abuse or that Mel is not a crazy abusive person. NO ONE deserves that sort of abuse, not even the evilest of gold diggers who allegedly are or are not setting someone up for the biggest pay day of their lives. But intentional motives and your level of emotional involvement do count for something.
Submitted by catholicschoolgirl on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 10:03pm.
Submitted by Pamela on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 9:53pm.
peeks head in::::looks around
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Pami, wait, come back, you've been so much fun to read this week!
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Awwwww I missed you??? I went to bed!!! :( Ill catch up with you later lovey!
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Submitted by Lurker on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 7:03pm.
Submitted by Pamela on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 6:51pm
damn girl, you tell it like it is!!!
Call me crazy, but if this bitch knew he hit her kids at the time and only is NOW bringing it up because they are no longer together, I can see her being all those things he said she is. And of course, yes he is a crazy asshole.but SHE seems as bad if not worse. Like she taped and documented all this and its all just now coming out??? It was ok to hit the kids when they were still together and she was being taken care of??
Ride the spiral to the end you may just go where no ones been. SPIRAL OUT
It seems he has not updated his blog for long at the famous celebrity and wealthy club 'See k Ri ch --C om' . His fans are waiting for his new pics and blogs there.
Why i'll always be on Team Mel. Private life not so much BUT i'm all for movies. Kill me cos i love Polanski movies as well.
Yep, i'm a bastard.
Apocalypto
Signs
We Were Soldiers
What Women Want
The Patriot
Chicken Run
The Million Dollar Hotel
Payback
Conspiracy Theory
Ransom (1996)
Braveheart
Maverick
Air America
Bird on a Wire
Tequila Sunrise
Lethal Weapon 1 2 3 4
The Bounty
The Year of Living Dangerously
Mad Max 1 2
KidL, Pearl Necklace,Mcnightmare and little_rascal, you guys are awesome. It's nice to know that you and others on this board understand what I was trying to get at and that OG doesn't deserve what Mel is putting her through.
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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
Timothy Dalton needs to fly over and get all James Bond on Mel Gibson's abusive ass!
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Submitted by little_rascal on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 11:32pm.
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Little Rascal & HotMami: you are beautiful. I've given up on arguing with these kinds of posters. Now I just settle for poking them with a red-hot skewer, which is all that they deserve, because it's impossible for them not to see the big blob of bullshit sitting front and center in their arguments. They just keep dancing around that turd in order to justify their cherished misogyny. Good night, babes <3
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Illuminati Monarch Slave, at your service.
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Oh noes! What WILL poor, befuddled, pussymatized, grown ass Mel do now? How will he ever explain a leeetle matter about pushing around another man's son who happens to share DNA with his current baby mama (SHAME GOLDDIGGA SHAME!)? Find out how, in another installment of As Mel's Trolls Churn!
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Illuminati Monarch Slave, at your service.
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Before I retire to bed:
mcnightmare-Thank you. I have really enjoyed your posts. I know these are just gossip boards, but damn, the posts about this topic have been eye-opening to say the least.
@Hotmami-Ya know, you bring up a good point about Robyn. Very, very little is known about this woman, but it is interesting that so many people assume she is as much of a saint as Oksana is a sinner and a liar.
It is very possible that Robyn tolerated or even shared a lot of Mel's opinions. It is possible she was even an enabler. For some, this may border on the unholy, but even less is known about this woman than OG.
I've also known more than a few women who tolerated their husband's affairs in exchange for the perks that came with their marriage. One woman whom I know very well was the wife of a very powerful oil company executive who was aware and tolerated his affairs throughout their nearly 50 years together. Perhaps the Gibsons had a similar arragement.
Of course, it is possible, too, that Robyn was indeed one of those women who really believed in 'for better or worst' and thought marriage truly was for life. However, it is interesting that without knowing anything, so many are quick to assume she is the saint and Oksana the sinner when realistically, they are probably like most people: neither saints nor sinners but complex individuals.
Also, I do wonder that had it been the long-suffering Mrs. R. Gibson who claimed she had been abused without tapes, dental records, etc. would people be far more likely to believe her?
Lastly, before I climb down from my soapbox, I really hope the people who are so quick to rip apart OG and dismiss her claims soley because they don't agree with her lifestyle choices never find theirselves in a situation where they are are victims of crime or abuse and there past is held against them.
Submitted by Hotmami on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 8:11pm.
Ok, so I understand that this is Dlisted and that skepticism and snark are the order of the day here. But I SO FUCKING TIRED of all the hate towards Oksana. Is she a moral, upstanding, angel of a human being? Fuck no. But does she deserve to be beaten, harassed and to have HER LIFE THREATENED?! NO! People here are trying to gloss over the fact that they apparently feel that this woman deserves what is happening. Shit like this is why domestic violence victims often don't come forward, and no one knows what's up until so and so is found DEAD. Do any of you realize that this may happen to her? He's already threatened to bury her in a rose garden. She HAD to tape him because, as may of you have proven (WITH tapes), no one would have believed her otherwise. Some of you are really fucking heartless. I think it says alot that most of the people flaming Oksana have never been in abusive situations, but feel that they are somehow qualified to make judgements about her. Try walking in another person's shoes...some of you really need to show some fucking compassion.
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HotMami, I agree with every word you've said here.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
Submitted by Pamela on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 9:53pm.
peeks head in::::looks around
turns around runs away
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Pami, wait, come back, you've been so much fun to read this week!
peeks head in::::looks around
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Submitted by Lurker on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 7:03pm.
Submitted by Pamela on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 6:51pm
damn girl, you tell it like it is!!!
Hotmami, KidL:
You're making a lot of sense, of course - some people aren't going to see it, no matter what. For what it's worth, I got your backs.
These threads have been eye-opening, both the real people who have posed about their experiences and the people who have shown compassion for others, and those who act like there is something OG could have done to deserve being abused.
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I didn't ask to be hated
I just don't mind being a bitch.
(Courtney Love)
Submitted by Pimpcessa on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 9:36pm.
Well, regardless of what YOU think, he is being investigated, so obviously people who are actually qualified to judge this feel that there is more than a small amount of validity to what Oksana is claiming.
Look at that. I made a point without calling anyone an idiot.
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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"
Hotmami
You are too much of an idiot obviously to even begin to understand what I was getting at. And don't flatter yourself with your high and mighty attitude. You, by the way, just implicated someone else (Robyn) in making him that way by her actions because she didn't STOP him. So I guess you think he was an abuser because of Oksana. Not that you are pro Oksana or sticking up for her or anything.............. Get over yourself and just think about why anyone would question her, given the way she conducted herself with regards to her son at the very least. She owed her son, if nobody else, a safe environment and if she is telling the truth, she let him down to a major degree. I just don't thnk she's telling the truth. And screw you for assuming she is only truthful and I'm heartless. I do care about domestic abuse, but her story smells to high heaven.
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I'm your huckleberry...
This topic gets me heated for some reason. Anyway, I have to say this. What's up with all of the "Robyn is such a saint to have put up with him for ALL THOSE YEARS!". Um hello, if she put up with it, then she helped MAKE him into the racist, abusive used tampon that he is today. Obviously Mel is a douche, but if she knew he was like this (and I don't buy her bs statement for a second) and didn't demand that he get help, then she is just as guilty. Obviously the dollars signs were clouding her judgment. She makes me sick.
*disclaimer: this is not a pro Oksana statement. Just calling it like I see it.
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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"
Submitted by Bossy on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 12:31pm.
Abrasion=pimple, bug bite, etc. now? Falling with a baby doesn't cause that unless the baby falls on a solitary pin that's stick out and nothing else.
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*sigh* She didn't fall with the baby. This happened when he punched her.
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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"
Submitted by Pimpcessa on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 1:15pm.
I am Team Mel for more than one reason....
Did you dislike him before these tapes came out, and is this just a means to heighten your disapproval of him?
Are you a minority that he insulted during these "tapes"? Were you personally offended hearing Mel say those things and decided to take it personally?
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You have GOT to be kidding me. So automatically all minorities are against Mel Gibson. And many people on this site have stated that they disliked him LONG before all of this, even before the whole Sugartits thing. Thank you for your blatantly condescending attitude towards those of us who actually have a shred of human decency.
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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"
That looks like a baby zit, not an abrasion.
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I'm here to kick ass and drink tea. And I'm all out of tea.
Ok, so I understand that this is Dlisted and that skepticism and snark are the order of the day here. But I SO FUCKING TIRED of all the hate towards Oksana. Is she a moral, upstanding, angel of a human being? Fuck no. But does she deserve to be beaten, harassed and to have HER LIFE THREATENED?! NO! People here are trying to gloss over the fact that they apparently feel that this woman deserves what is happening. Shit like this is why domestic violence victims often don't come forward, and no one knows what's up until so and so is found DEAD. Do any of you realize that this may happen to her? He's already threatened to bury her in a rose garden. She HAD to tape him because, as may of you have proven (WITH tapes), no one would have believed her otherwise. Some of you are really fucking heartless. I think it says alot that most of the people flaming Oksana have never been in abusive situations, but feel that they are somehow qualified to make judgements about her. Try walking in another person's shoes...some of you really need to show some fucking compassion.
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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"
Submitted by Pamela on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:16pm.
Yup, you have me figured out. I am brutal that way! ;)
@Hekki, et al.-Of course there are out women out there who lie about abuse. No question.
However, as someone who was in abusive relationship, it is a bit sad to read some of the comments on here. She has photos, tapes, and yet still that is not enough for some. In fact, some people even seem reluctant to admit that at the very least, she was a victim of emotional abuse. As I stated previous, I really believe that even if she photos of her beaten to a pulp, some people would still call her a liar.
The way I see it, she was really in a damned if she did, damned if she didn't situation: Had she been screaming or sobbing, she would have been blamed for playing it up.
As Miss Jane touched on, it is very, very easy to say what you would do in that situation until you are in it. A friend of mine worked in a shelter for battered women and she said that on AVERAGE, a battered woman left her abuser NINE TIMES before she left him for good.
It's very easy to project on Oksana and/or assume the worst about her. Very little is known about her, but other than comments by British ex-husband, there doesn't seem to be much dirt on her. (Also, I daresay an ex-husband who agrees to talk to the media about his ex is hardly an objective person.)
I dunno. . . but if some of the attitudes on here are in any way reflective of society at large, then domestic violence victims really are screwed. I know first hand how hard it can be to even get the police to take seriously if there aren't any witnesses around but it seems that even if you have photos, a statement by the dentist, etc. you still have to face questions as to whether or not you 'set him up' or have stuff about your past which has no bearing at all to the situation at hand used against you.
As I said many times, there are a lot of people out there who may be unsavory people but that doesn't mean they cannot be victims of abuse.
Submitted by mcnightmare on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:32pm.
pamela, darling are you goading me? no more blow jobs for you!
i thought it was clear by my ":p" face that i wasn't very serious.
you mel gibson employees make me want to smoke.
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:( I know you werent babycakes! I was only kidding dont take away the blow jobs!!!!! What next no racist pillow talk?
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Submitted by Lurker on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 7:03pm.
Submitted by Pamela on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 6:51pm
damn girl, you tell it like it is!!!
Submitted by ISprainedMyUvula on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 4:42pm.
Him being more wrong semantically doesn't make her right.
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AMEN.
I am not condoning his asshole behavior. he is clearly an abusive piece of shit whether or not he ever put a hand on her. His words alone are enough to say he is an abuser.
And that fucking "bruise" is a baby pimple.
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"Sarah Jessica Parker has the same exact cardigan as my abuelita. BITER!" -- MK
Being a victim of abuse doesn't excuse Oksana's own wrong behaviors. She doesn't get a pass on the ALLEGED (feel better?) extortion, child endangerment or any other unsavory act because Mel Gibson is an asshole who has the gall to raise his hand to another human being.
Him being more wrong semantically doesn't make her right.
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I ALMOST threw up my grilled cheese sandwich but with Jesus in your life, you can overcome anything. - boobxqueen on Octomom's Star cover
The Napoleonic Code: Guilty, until proven innocent!
Mel's been tried and convicted in the media. Hell, he wasn't even tried! What a slap in the face of American justice!
Oksana is determined to become a rich gold digger, no matter what the cost!
Mel, it's high time you have a defense team; and if you already do, let them earn their pay!
If you're guilty, then it's time to fess up, do your penance and vow to change your ways!
This is the reason abused women don't come forward too. I broke my nose at least 4-6 times as a kid and it never bled and I never got so much as a black eye. If someone punched me today, you probably wouldn't be able to tell, but that doesn't mean I wasn't punched or anyone had a right to. The people dissecting abuse victims have real issues. Especially since Mel was heard ranting the way he was......there is no possible excuse on the planet for his words.
I can also understand that celebrities tend to get away with A LOT. Money can buy your way out of responsibility for your actions. Maybe Oksana felt the need to go public because Mel's got such an influence financially in his jurisdiction. This is not some unheard of concept.
Maybe looking at facts instead of dissecting an abuse victim is in order. And taking into account this man is worth billions of dollars and has more money at stake preserving his image is a big factor in that. And let's not forget Hollywood's pattern of forgiving abusive men for cash......should we wait till he pulls a Phil Spector? Or OJ?
Submitted by Pimpcessa on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:08pm.
If she would have done what any normal person would have done, then her credibility would not be in question. When someone hits you so hard as to knock out your veneers, you have a bruise or two. Then you get your ass and your kids ass out of the situation. You certainly do not keep your other child in harms way when there's another parent to care for him, far away from the supposed deadly abuser. The point is that she did have a picture of her the very next day showing the teeth with no bruise on her lip or face. She does nothing for months until she goes, not to the police, but RADAR to give her tapes and pics to.
That's it, I publicly give up from posting on Mel threads. From now on you can find me on Brit Brit and Lilo threads and the such. This is just too nasty for words, in every aspect.
No more. Place the baby w/ someone sane, then nuke Mel/Oks
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"Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense. Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." - Carl Sagan
KidL (not to single you out or anything!): People like me are NOT the reason abused women don't come forward. A person like me is sympathetic until something smells not right. Then I call it like I see it.
Unfortunately, not every woman who cries abuse or rape or sexual harassment is telling the truth. Especially when there's money to be made or custody on the line. Sometimes women are the predator, not the victim.
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Submitted by Pamela on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:14pm.
Submitted by mcnightmare on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:08pm.
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Really? Thats what offended you? Hmmmhmmmm yep
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pamela, darling are you goading me? no more blow jobs for you!
i thought it was clear by my ":p" face that i wasn't very serious.
you mel gibson employees make me want to smoke.
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I didn't ask to be hated
I just don't mind being a bitch.
(Courtney Love)
So scary..."only way i'll forgive you is if you crawl back and suck my cock....in that order"
jesus
The tapes are not even amusing anymore.
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Submitted by KidL on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:02pm.
BTW, I am geniunely curious, to those who don't think she sounds like an abuse victim, what does an abuse victim sound like, and what are you basing that on?
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I haven't gone back to all the postings, so not sure if you're referring to me. But I was asking a person who seemed to be really involved with this story what she thought of how Oksana sounded on those tapes and whether or not from their experience or knowledge of domestic violence (the poster seemed really into calling out Mel and defending Oksana, so I presume she was coming from some knowledge on the matter) and whether or not if it sounded to them like a domestic violence argument.
I asked because, although the recordings prove that Mel is a complete fucktard loon, the recordings also seemed very odd to me. She was calm, controlled, even unawares of why Mel was going off, when from the tapes alone she's heard him freak out before.. She wasn't dragged into the argument, she wasn't upset at what he was saying, or emotionally involved with what he was saying, and on the other hand with all that control, she did not try to placate Mel or calm him down. When she told him in a disinterested way, "you need medication", it didn't sound like she felt threatened by these calls.
Mel on the other hand was totally out of control, in great fury and pain..
I just found it odd. So I was asking what ppl with knowledge of domestic violence situations thought of those recordings.
I really didn't want to insert myself into this argument but people can say whatever they want...but until you have been in an abusive relationship you will never know what you would ACTUALLY do. You can judge her actions all you want...but there is a reason why women in abusive relationships end up dead after suffering through several attacks by the same person...and most of them weren't sticking around with the opportunity to extort $15 million.
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For what purpose was this created? A goddamn project for whore school? Sophie_003 10-6-2009
Submitted by KidL on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 2:53pm.
Submitted by Pamela on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 2:50pm.
Busted! :)
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Well wait it minute now, dont go makeing me feel like a dime a dozen! Just one of your hoes you go tossing away! ;P
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Submitted by Lurker on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 7:03pm.
Submitted by Pamela on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 6:51pm
damn girl, you tell it like it is!!!
Submitted by mcnightmare on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:08pm.
i was a bit insulted personally because he said she must have had help to make such a high quality tape! why, because she's a girl? :P she's a musician, for chrissake - this shouldn't have posed a technical challenge.
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Really? Thats what offended you? Hmmmhmmmm yep
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Submitted by Lurker on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 7:03pm.
Submitted by Pamela on Sun, 06/27/2010 - 6:51pm
damn girl, you tell it like it is!!!
Submitted by KidL on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 3:02pm.
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I imagine most abuse victims want to stay as far away from the abuser as possible and don't record him acting passive aggressive and saying things that will make him angry. Mel has a temper and she knows it so she should have just left his ass alone. Why not file a police report after the first abuse incident? No, she goes to a "dentist" and has him take pictures. I imagine an abuse victim rarely lets some man hit her child and then doesn't call the police.
But let's say she was that scared and didn't want to contact police out of fear. She's just someone who releases all this information about Mel once he refuses to pay child support. She complains about being broke. Yeah, I am sure she was really abused. *rolls eyes*
She just makes it harder for every woman who was really abused and for every woman who was scared to even ask her bf/husband a yes/no question for fear of him going violent on her just for asking and not already knowing what his answer should be. For every woman who is just happy being away from an abuser and wanting him completely out of her life and couldn't care less about getting money from him. So fuck her. I can't take her seriously anymore. Do you really believe that baby acne is proof of child abuse? Babies have sensitive skin and if you hit them, it won't result in some pin head size pimple on their chin.
It's baby acne. For chrissakes.
She's full of shit.
Obviously the man has charisma or else he wouldn't have made it as big as he has.
Still, I think some posters were on to something when they said all those years of alcohol abuse affected his brain. He appears to have been losing the ability to control himself for awhile. He stormed away from an interview earlier this year when someone brought up his DUI arrest IIRC.
I dunno. . . maybe when he was with the long-suffering Robyn she was able to keep some of those in check. Co-dependent relationships are common in those situations.
Submitted by Pimpcessa on Wed, 07/21/2010 - 2:37pm.
mcnightmare
Haha, I don't know squat about recording devices. I watched the forensic audio expert on abc.com. Anyway, he said that because of the clarity he felt she dubbed he voice on the tape in a recording studio with a large microphone.
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oooh, i promised myself i wouldn't get into this today! lol
i tracked down the ABC interview and the forensic audio guy said that the tapes had been edited - but i think that to anyone who does audio it's obvious that there is some editing - you don't need to be an expert to hear it. so whoever edited it wasn't expecting to slip it past people. if i can hear it then any engineer could. i looked at an audio file that was allegedly from the conversation and it's completely clear that it's edited - there's no doubt about it.
but there's a difference between "editing" and "tampering with". you can cut out minutes of a conversation that isn't relevant without altering what someone actually said. the intention behind the editing is what is really in question.
anyway, the forensic expert also said he has no way of knowing who edited the tapes, and that there is no way of knowing more about them without hearing the originals.
i was a bit insulted personally because he said she must have had help to make such a high quality tape! why, because she's a girl? :P she's a musician, for chrissake - this shouldn't have posed a technical challenge.
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I didn't ask to be hated
I just don't mind being a bitch.
(Courtney Love)
If she would have done what any normal person would have done, then her credibility would not be in question. When someone hits you so hard as to knock out your veneers, you have a bruise or two. Then you get your ass and your kids ass out of the situation. You certainly do not keep your other child in harms way when there's another parent to care for him, far away from the supposed deadly abuser. The point is that she did have a picture of her the very next day showing the teeth with no bruise on her lip or face. She does nothing for months until she goes, not to the police, but RADAR to give her tapes and pics to.
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I'm your huckleberry...
MG must be such a miserable person, walking around with all that anger, resentment...he must REALLY be able to turn on the charm/flash the $ to get with these women. Being him is really its own punishment. For kicks I youtubed some old interviews and he comes across as so edgy, it's uncomfortable to watch.
BTW, I am geniunely curious, to those who don't think she sounds like an abuse victim, what does an abuse victim sound like, and what are you basing that on?
KidL
Busted! :)
Okay, okay, anytime I address a point that someone brings up it is clearly because I have a thing for them and think about them constantly IRL
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So this is something that happens to you often? But has nothing to do with your posts towards them right..............??????
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I'm your huckleberry...
If some of the attitudes on here reflect society in general, I am not surprised so few victims of domestic violence come forth.
I truly feel that even if her face had been busted to pieces, there are still those who would say she did it herself or paid someone, too.
KidL
1st - YOU are the only person I ever stated was getting personally snippy with me here.
2nd - Isn't it best that you ignore me the way you told "viridian" to?
Oh and 3rd BLOW ME! And screw you and your condsending wannabe smackdown. You are obviously having issues.
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I'm your huckleberry...
Ok, I have not read the comments here and let it be known, I am not a Mel Gibson fan BUT these are some fucked up accusations if he didn't commit child abuse. Okay for one, that picture of her baby with a pimple on it's chin is COMMON for babies. Both of my kids used to get the occasional acne when they were infants. It's normal. That is not a picture of an abused child. If he accidentally hit the baby when he was trying to hit her, there'd be a hell of a lot more than some little spot.
And as much as this woman likes to record every moment (while she passively aggressively antagonizes him instead of just leaving him the fuck alone.. why would you be passive aggressive towards someone who abuses you, btw? why not just fucking leave them alone completely especially when you know their triggers?) I am shocked she did not record him throwing her son into a table.
This is some bs. I do think he is verbally abusive but I don't believe he has been physically abusive to her or her son and sure as fuck not her baby.. especially if baby acne is her only proof of child abuse. She is making her credibility weak.
It's some bullshit to accuse someone of hurting a child just when you want money. If he had been giving her money all along, we'd never have heard of any of this shit. If someone lays a bad finger ever on any of my children, I am not waiting for the day I can use it against the person to get money. I am calling the police right away and getting me and my child the hell away from him asap. You know, like most normal people.
This bitch.