Let's Try This Again, Shall We?

Submitted by Bjork You on Fri, 05/21/2010 - 7:48am.
Aneurysm proved my point:some people confuse a complete absence of manners and self-restraint with honesty.

"Pathologically straight males"...sounds interesting. :D

Dear aneurysm,

Please shut up already. We get your pointless points.

Also, please, please don't speak for the Irish (or any other group).

OT: I still think JRM is kind of hot. Also, when people piss me off, I really don't go there, even in my head, with a racial/ethnic slur. And when I use the word "bitch," it tends to be directed at pathologically straight males.

Anyone in NYC? It's beautiful outside.

Submitted by angel_i on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 6:03pm
So which one is it? Do you have two kids or not?
Cuz if you have two kids AND a husband - you're working, hunny.

yeah, right, i know. not here to start THAT war! i remember my sister-in-law, before she had kids, used to ask me, "What do you DO all day?"
"Project Manager," i told her.

I do think that women who work in and out of the home are awesome (and i will probably do that in a year or two). i don't know how they do it.
well, i do know one thing they have: lots of caffeine mostly.

Submitted by dlaugher on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 3:07pm.

I have two kids and don't work.
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So which one is it? Do you have two kids or not?
Cuz if you have two kids AND a husband - you're working, hunny.

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by Mr. Mercury on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 9:39pm.looks just like Jimmy Lee Taylor, the super fat kid who lived across the street from me back in the day. Jimmy Lee married an inbred hillbilly gal and tried on several occasions to electrocute his mother.

Peaches you are a peach
Nuff said

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Love this guy. Beautiful, talented and very sweet. I hope he can find the strength to gain control of his life.

ok, i'm out. take care. :)

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dlaughter, absolutely. when i was in the immigration office, the man behind the desk was not friendly towards me, as an american, at all. he said the very same thing you just did, 'would your country let me in', or something to that affect.
while i was thinking, do you realize how many people my country DO let in. & yes, i realize the difference between typical illegals & refugees, i mean c'mon. i feel ireland does more in the way of helping refugees than our huge country. so imagine the frustration some citizens of a smaller socialized country must feel. you can't help everyone, you can try, but to what degree & to what cost of the sacrifice of your OWN people. ireland i felt was such an EXAMPLE, positively, in so many ways. for instance, they don't hide their disabled. i would regularly see groups of autistic kids or down syndrome adults on outings with professional overseers. that is something you rarely see here in the states.
while we have our share of illegals, in ratio to refugees we don't do nearly as much as they do & they are using socialist reform! as americans with a strong functioning free market (sarcasm), we should be capable of doing much more than our smaller neighboring countries. alas, we do not.
as for the other comment about your friend that travels & happily takes government assistance when she tires of a job, that is a great example of my entire argument. i'm sure your friend isn't the only person doing this, & she's a citizen. so factor in people like your friend with non-citizens, versus hard working people who hold their jobs & their frustration witnessing those who can not do the same. i worked with basically all women, many who were/are mothers. ireland gives a nice holiday leave for employees, as law, & they get nice amounts of pregnancy leave, before & after the birth, with a job to come back to when the time is up. there are nannies, day care facilities etc, for WORKING moms. if someone's husband makes enough that enables the mother to stay home, great, but if he doesn't, should the rest of a country suffer for women capable of working that simply choose not to? if a woman isn't capable of work, chances are she isn't capable of being a proper mother either. in these cases, that should be evaluated. we test people for various licenses for various things, i think the same should be done for parenting, & we would find many social & economical problems alleviated.
for anymore people that wish to give out to me for long responses, tell people to stop asking me questions or you, yourselves, stop asking me (because you seem to be the same people complaining). at least i am addressing things that some deem important & not typing paragraphs of insignificant kiss ass crap to the regulars, that don't even address the original post at all.
thanks. :)
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Submitted by aneurysm on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 2:39pm.
no, if that black woman has 2 or more kids & doesn't work, she may be considered a leecher. same goes for white, red, yellow, purple, or whatever.

Aneurysm, i know you're feeling picked on, but i do have to jump in here. how would anyone looking at someone with two kids on a bus know that they are a "leecher"?

I have two kids and don't work. my husband is supporting us.

i have a friend in ireland who has been on the dole so many times it's not funny. she likes to quit jobs to travel but she doesn't say no to the gov't. money.

also, everyone here should know what they are talking about when they say "refugee." it is not the same as "migrant" or "immigrant" or even "illegal immigrant." speaking of, i so wonder if the law in arizona will ask for the papers of anyone with an irish accent. i have known quite a few illegal irish people in the states in my time!

Ew, gross! He's so skeeeeeeeeevy! He probably reeks of liquor and cigarettes all the time. *barf*

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If you have to preface a statement with "Not to be a total prude, but..." YOU ARE A TOTAL PRUDE.

no, if that black woman has 2 or more kids & doesn't work, she may be considered a leecher. same goes for white, red, yellow, purple, or whatever.

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so basically if a black woman live in Ireland and have more than two kids, she's to be a leecher. GREAT!
I better not go in Ireland then.
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Vous savez, moi je ne crois pas qu'il y ait de bonne ou de mauvaise situation.

btw- thanks for further validating my point by acknowledging you do indeed feel celebrities may be less human than the rest of us, or if not less human, 'different'. you are just a miserable person that comes here to snark on people that have more than you, 'celebrities'. the same treatment or behavior you accused me of having because i stated i am not politically correct. so it's ok to make fun of those that may be MORE fortunate, financially speaking. so this is a classism thing for you? you treat people based on how well off they may or may not be. haha. money doesn't bring happiness. in your case, i don't think anything would make you happy, because you can't change the color of your skin, something you obviously feel represses you from the rest of society.

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uh?????????
what happened here , dayum !!!!!!
(this is not regarding the N WORD some accocainato used while having the drunks )
HELL I HAVE BEEN ASKED
WHAT ARE YOU ?????????????
say woooooooot , not where do you come from , or who are you , no WHAT ????????
*adjusts skin to cover green scales/scutes*
fok , wonder how they knew !
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by Mr. Mercury on Thu, 05/06/2010 - 9:39pm.looks just like Jimmy Lee Taylor, the super fat kid who lived across the street from me back in the day. Jimmy Lee married an inbred hillbilly gal and tried on several occasions to electrocute his mother.

This is one ugly dude.

Submitted by aneurysm on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 1:11pm.
I meant that a lack of manners is often confused with honesty,and that
political correctness is a bad substitute for good manners and common sense.People without prejudice (or scorn) don't exist. As for not mocking the lame,the halt,and the blind...the PC rule is that you CAN'T tell or laugh at jokes which mock others, not that such jokes are in bad taste. PC dictates,civilized manners make suggestions.
Truly sorry to offend or confuse.

poor, kidl, when all else fails, resort to calling one out on capitalization & punctuation. i thought i was doing pretty well on the punctuation/grammar front, to be typing out quick, albeit long, replies on a gossip blog. when i am writing out something formally, i will make effort to use capitalization. who, here, claimed to be james joyce(hypothetical)? i am flattered you would use such an author to compare me with. :)
& why was the woman on the bus ignorant? because she was angry & you are asian? don't take out your hostilities on me because of a situation i described regarding a woman & HER anger. anddd it comes full circle, see? you & she aren't much different, if you stop & think on it, just on different 'sides' so to speak. as for taking valium, i'll share mine with you if you like, your hostility would be indicative of need. my replies are long, because you keep asking me questions that take long answers. for someone who claims to be so worldly & race conscientious, you seem to lack empathy for others outside of your own personal agenda & concerns.

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Submitted by ILovePapaSmurf on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 1:41pm.
Great, fighting on the DListed comment section... this hasn't happened in what.... hours?

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LOL! I think you meant minutes. :)

I hope someone gives aneurysm a Valium before she has an aneurysm. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

Funny how a topic about JRM turns into a rant about how celebs are "unfairly" treated, and a story about some ignorant asshole on a bus. Meh!

Great, fighting on the DListed comment section... this hasn't happened in what.... hours?
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"Submitted by suckandfuck on Fri, 04/16/2010 - 5:46pm.

I would slaughter a thousand babies for an hour alone with Mike Rowe."

Blah, blah, blah. . . Christ, if you are going to write a rant the length of a novel, then at least follow the basic rules of grammar including proper punctuation and capitalization. I know this is just a gossip blog, but really. Also, you may like all things Irish, but you are NO James Joyce.

Hudson News, lol!

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a.cotw, as i stated in my earlier post, i have been coming to this site for over 3 years, when mk had a smaller host, so i know all to well mk's commentary as well as the fellow dlisters snark. so am i to understand that my distaste for political correctness means i enjoy watching underprivileged or disabled, etc being kicked while they are down? quite the contrary, i root for the underdog in every situation. for example, the snark from some of you regarding some of these celebrities, i feel bad for many of them, because at the end of the day they are human beings, & your opinions matter to them. i imagine if many of us had cameras following us around, what we would see, & how we would be scrutinized. i believe in do unto others. with that said, i am not a kiss ass either, like many of you are. many of you will follow the leader, because you think collectively, & not for yourselves. just because i prefer honesty, even if it may not be favorable, does not make me a bad person. sometimes, opinions need to be heard. that lady on the bus was not happy, & there was an underlying reason. her opinion was obviously shared by many, because a law was changed. so you can sit here & judge me all you like, i will still sleep at night, happy to still have my freedoms that people like you may wish to take from me. thank god there are still women like the woman on the bus, who are not afraid to voice their opinions. she wasn't violent & i may have even embellished by saying she cursed, i just know she wasn't happy & expressed as much, verbally. as for the other people on the bus, they weren't reactive one way or the other. the lady DID move, she just wasn't particularly happy to do so, as a woman on her way to work to pay into a system that was being exploited right in front of her eyes.

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angel_I,
"haole" is a Hawaiin word for white people.
aneurysm,
Civilized manners are based on hypocrisy.Your dislike of political correctness is understandable-it dictates that one CAN'T mock the blind,the halt,and the lame.Public politeness towards people you wouldn't allow into your house by the back door diminishes constant verbal hostility. About the Irish woman you described-did anyone,including the bus driver,enjoy her rant?
Often, MK's hilarious commentary is about celebrities and others behaving badly. Dlisters say outrageous things,but I doubt that any are a public nuisance. Some people confuse bad manners combined with a lack of self-control with honesty. The phrase "too much information" is less vulgar than "shut the fuck up", and w need both.
Just the opinion of a well-travelled American who can outcuss a bathroom wall in four languages.

and ANOTHER thing (i really didn't intend for my comment to go this far as i rarely comment anyway in the 3+ years i have been coming to this site, just check my history) ANYWAY, the people of ireland have their version of white trash, they call tinkers & knackers. these people leech off the system. they do not work & live in counsel flats or caravans. so the citizens are already feeding a percentage of leechers as is. the church tends to encourage, by lending ongoing support, to these people. so when you have people outside of their country adding to an already existing problem, you are bound to have tensions. so while the 'n word' is not a nice one & should never be encouraged, neither is tinkers or knackers, right? the discrimination or hostility knows no color. yet, i bet if there were a post describing a similar situation, only this time, use derogatory terms to a white race, such as tinkers & knackers, there would be lol's abound. neither is ok, right? but the response would be quite different.
also take note, you have the n word used by people of color & nothing is said or it isn't as big of a deal. double standards.

oh & one more thing to the woman who said she would think twice of visiting there now. when i was living there, they have a farmers market on the weekends. i remember meeting an african american woman, who was living there as i was, she was working there as i was, & she loved it. she was WORKING, she wasn't leeching off of their system, & neither was i. we were both giving back. a thing to note, ireland will grant visas to artists. it isn't hard to find work there, so when one isn't working & leeching the already lax system, it is understandably aggravating to it's citizens.

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Forget rehab, hasn't he figured out by now that it just doesn't work for him. Spend your money on booze buddy, just go with it.

kidl, because there aren't many people of color in ireland. that's just a fact. ireland isn't a very large country, not even as large as some states in america. with that said, you have some students there, sure, but they wouldn't be on the bus during the day with 3-4 toddlers. like i said earlier, during that time, which the laws have since changed, you had mothers from other countries, outside of europe, moving there to deliver their babies, which would then grant them citizenship, for having their babies in the country. like i said, it was a loophole in the law, & it has since changed. irish people don't have a problem with tourists, i mean the american sentiment is rather low, as a whole, but they will treat any tourist the same, warmly. generally, they are jovial SINCERE people. however, are you there to leech off their system? then you may get a side glance, the same as anywhere else in the world. you have the same behaviors in parts of the states. as a white person, i am not itching to visit parts of africa, parts of asia, or parts of the middle east. so i can share your own sentiments of hesitation regarding travel. as has already been stated, there is racism, bigotry, discrimination EVERYWHERE in EVERY culture. i can't think of one place or culture free of this.

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James Lipton: What is your least favorite word?

JRM: Gravitas

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That's one nasty, inbred, Deliverance-looking motherfucker. Ewwwww.

And he looks like a cop. Gross.

Maybe the trick is to just avoid the places aneurysm suggests.

Hell, I think I will. I didn't mention it in my previous posts, but I am half-Asian. Don't want someone to be "real" with me or assume I am one of those shifty Asian asylum seekers. BTW, I do wonder how aneurysm "knew" that woman on the bus was a refugee. Was she wearing a sign that announced that?

Submitted by dlaugher on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 11:03am.

Submitted by angel_i on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:56am.
Cracker.

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Haole

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LOL! What's that?

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Yeah...

I don't want colorful people assuming I'm an African refugee and feeling compelled to be honest with/about me while I'm trying to admire the countryside with my young nieces (who also wants to go).

It's not just the UK, I know. Certain parts of Africa wouldn't make me feel welcomed, either. And I get enough "honesty" right here in the States...right here on DListed...more than we care to admit to ourselves.

I would still like to go to Ireland (and Scotland), but now I would do it with even more...hesitation. That incident you spoke of gives me pause.

It's not your job to sell me on foreign lands. But there it is...

Submitted by aneurysm on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 11:03am.
ok, kidl, so you are saying that you haven't been witness to situations in europe that, frankly, you would be less likely to see even in the current day southern united states? no one culture is perfect, no one person is perfect. & i am guessing since you have dual citizenship, married to a brit, you may even prefer that culture to the one you were born in
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Wow. Talk about getting it all wrong.

First of all, I never said I didn't see racism when I was in Europe. I did. My point was, those incidents do NOT reflect ALL of Europe any more than the racism I have seen in my current home of VA represents ALL of VA or ALL of the South. You will always find ignorant assholes no matter where you are at, but in no way do those people represent the majority.

And in regards to that last paragraph, I had no choice in dual citizen game. Got it automatically at birth since Dad was a British citizen and just kept it. I actually met my husband in Virginia. I could have cared less where he was from.

gazing,... ? i guess by reading, traveling, hanging out with live humans by leaving my computer every so often? replying to people with more than one liners? i take my meds like a good little girl. :)

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dlaughter, same here regarding my dad, but i can say despite his opinions, it only made me want to make my own conclusions. i tell my friends about it, & they understand, & they even appreciate the fact, I am comfortable enough with them to tell them about my dad & his hangups. they appreciate MY honesty. it only made us closer, y'know.

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Submitted by aneurysm on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:48am.

How do you function on a daily basis?

somuchbetterthanyou, lol!! it really is the most beautiful places on earth imo. the people are colorful, the food is fantastic. it was the best experience of my life. & the real estate in ireland is one of the most lucrative in europe for a reason. everyone should visit at least once in their lifetime.

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Submitted by aneurysm on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 11:03am.
however, i prefer people who are candid & honest. i feel it opens discourse & helps one evolve. i am not a fan of those who make it a point to be 'politically correct'. that doesn't serve anyone justice. it suppresses & represses imo.

I kinda like political correctness, to a point. If you knew me, you would know i'm honest and not always politically correct, but in public discourse, there is no room for the racism that a lot of people have. that kind of "honesty" does no good.

my uncle and father were "honest" around me with their thoughts and beliefs. It kinda wore me down. i wish they had just kept it to themselves. Less honesty! they didn't spout their stuff to people they didn't know. that's just practical.

Submitted by dlaugher on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:51am.

Word. ITA with everything you said.

@ aneurysm-I don't know how anyone can admire someone calling another person the N word on a public bus much less praise them for "telling it like it is". This Nigerian woman didn't ask the other woman what she thought of her. She was not asking her how she viewed black people. Sounds like this woman was angry at giving up her seat and rather than coming up with a logical reason as to why she shouldn't have to do so, she called the woman the N word which actually shows HER ignorance and inablity to have a rational disagreement without resulting to the basest of lanuguage. It also shows a total disregard for even the basic codes of conduct.

Then again, you seem like one to jump to conclusions yourself hence your (mistaken) belief that I had never been to Ireland or anywhere in Europe when in fact, I had and even hold British citizenship.

jill, rofl.

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@ Submitted by sushi on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 9:11am.

Sorry, sushi.
I accidentally copied the wrong one.
I agree with YOU.
Not that I don't agree with Hekki.
Cuz we are all in agreement.
Over YOUR original statement.
Aw, fuck it..

And I'm sure the equivalent of the British and/or Irish Tourists Boards are LOVING this thread...

Submitted by angel_i on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:56am.
Cracker.

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ok, kidl, so you are saying that you haven't been witness to situations in europe that, frankly, you would be less likely to see even in the current day southern united states? no one culture is perfect, no one person is perfect. & i am guessing since you have dual citizenship, married to a brit, you may even prefer that culture to the one you were born in. personally, i prefer the culture over there. i don't condone racism. however, i prefer people who are candid & honest. i feel it opens discourse & helps one evolve. i am not a fan of those who make it a point to be 'politically correct'. that doesn't serve anyone justice. it suppresses & represses imo.

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I live in an extremely hick area of PA.
The first time I ever saw a man urinating on a public street, in the middle of the day, was in Cork.

Submitted by dlaugher on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:29am.

Submitted by Soultonic on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:19am.
I've heard many blacks use the word honkey

SERIOUSLY??!!
i have never heard anyone say honky unless it was in an old 70s movie.

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Submitted by aneurysm on Wed, 05/19/2010 - 10:48am.
kidl, i guess you've never been to ireland then? or anywhere in europe for that matter?
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In answer to your first question, I spend three months in Dublin. I lived in the UK for 2 years and have dual American/British citizenship. Oh, and my husband is British.

I have been all over Europe as well as visited parts of Asia.

dementa, truer words have never been spoken. ;)

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PS> ONE RACE, PEOPLES! When you start changing your terminology, a lot more important shit comes to light. Trust.

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