La Toya Was Right (Maybe)
La Toya Jackson gave an interview to the Daily Mail over the weekend where she said that she really believes her brother was murdered. La Toya said that she's going to watch several episodes of Father Dowling Mysteries, take notes and then get to the bottom of everything. Well, La Toya might have been right, because TMZ says that the LAPD is treating Michael's death as a homicide.
Sources within the LAPD say that the investigators are focusing on one of Michael's doctor, Dr. Conrad Murray. Apparently, there is evidence that Dr. Murray gave Michael the anesthesia Propofol which was the primary cause of his death. The evidence includes vials of Propofol founds in the house along with an oxygen stand and IV stand. Dr. Murray's lawyer refused to say one word about the allegations.
From here on out, I will never doubt La Toya again.
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Submitted by McBrewster on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:54am.
NEVER doubt LaToya!! Speaker of eternal truth!
You need to accept the The Universal Love of LaToya into your heart IMMEDIATELY!
LOL. Yes, those gloves tell me so!
Submitted by NaNoop on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:54am.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:50am.
Submitted by NaNoop on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:46am.
I'm wondering if this is being hyped as a straight up murder, when possibly it is going to be classified as unintentional murder (where it's not premeditated, but more accidental
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Ya.
Nancy Grace and Jane Vellez-Mitchell have been screaming at us through the t.v. that it looks like murder.
However, one of the guests suggested "they" might bring "manslaughter charges"
How embarrassing. I hate looking like a nit-wit {whistles embarrassed-like while slinking for the door}
I haven't been watching the news enough. With my kiddies whenever the tv's on it's Noggin or something.
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OH shit SORRY! That TOTALLY was not meant to make you look or feel bad!!!!!!! Stand up!! I just hearded it on the t.v. which is on 24/7 (i have been accused of being addicted to electronics).
Submitted by EastEndGirl on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:53am.
Hey EEG! I'm taking the half-dose and smoking 5-7 cigs a day. I KNOW I should completely quit, but at least the Chantix helps me to smoke a lot less than I would without it.
I know it's a lame excuse, but my hub smokes like a chimney. It makes it harder to quit.
"JUST SMILE LIKE A NORMAL FUCKED UP PERSON."
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I wouldn't doubt medical negligence at the very least and homicide at the most. Idiot doctors.
Anyhoo, LaToya looks like the misbegotten love child of Eartha Kitt and Baby Jane Hudson.
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Submitted by JMP on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:46am.
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I actually started making a mental checklist of who's the sanest to insanest in the Jackson family.
Okay, so my list goes:
1)Marlon
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2) Janet?
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(still workin on it)
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Submitted by Deb on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:47am.
I didn't have a "Psychic Hotline", but even I knew Michael's "comeback" concerts would never happen because he was too drug-addled to perform.
How in hell did the doctors hired by the promoters find him fit? How did the promoters think MJ could handle one show, let alone 20?
TMZ had reported that MJ was reportedly "listless" in rehearsals. Shady Dr. Conrad Murray was in their employ.
Now, yes, MJ was a junkie, but something in the milk ain't clean here.
Maybe Murray was hired to keep MJ "going for the show", but failing that, insurance would cover his OD, whereas insurance wouldn't cover cancelled concerts if he was alive.
Or maybe MJ offed himself, knowing he would never be able to perform his "indentured servitude" concerts, and he wanted to go out on top. I wonder if we'll ever know.
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Immediately after his death, I read about the insurance coverage the promoters had taken out. There was nearly 20 million to be paid in the event of his death from overdose.
If the shows were less than three weeks away and it appeared he wouldn't be able to handle 50 shows, then... if he happens to OD... problem solved. And it's a fast 20 mil. Evil exists.
I watch way too much Matlock over at my parents' place, obviously.
"I guess time seems to stretch out when you don't really give a fuck." -- MK, 07/07/08
Team Kfed, I thought that was true until Britney and the conservatorship came along.
Don't know if it was possible in Michael's case to do that though...
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Submitted by Katt on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:50am.
Ah, if only Michael's family had shown such an interest in him while he was still living. Maybe he wouldn't be gone. The dr was negligent and unethical to give him the drugs, but it's hardly murder.
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WOT? There are a rules and regs for the usage of drugs. Propol only belongs in one place for one reason - in the O.R. FOR SURGERY. Taking it out of the OR could be a crime in itself. Over-medicating, if it results in death, can be treated as a murder. Here's a story about a doctor who over-medicated patients who died soon after. Charged with murder:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198067/Doctor-overmedicated-eld...
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Submitted by Deb on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:47am.
I didn't have a "Psychic Hotline", but even I knew Michael's "comeback" concerts would never happen because he was too drug-addled to perform.
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Me too! After getting my news here on DListed, I thought something disastrous would happen during MJ's new tour. I never imagined he would die beforehand.
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Submitted by DiamondDawg on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:50am.
Submitted by NaNoop on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:46am.
I'm wondering if this is being hyped as a straight up murder, when possibly it is going to be classified as unintentional murder (where it's not premeditated, but more accidental
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Ya.
Nancy Grace and Jane Vellez-Mitchell have been screaming at us through the t.v. that it looks like murder.
However, one of the guests suggested "they" might bring "manslaughter charges"
How embarrassing. I hate looking like a nit-wit {whistles embarrassed-like while slinking for the door}
I haven't been watching the news enough. With my kiddies whenever the tv's on it's Noggin or something.
I agree with Stoney and missy.
Sick of hearing about this though, we will likely never know the truth.
Deb, I tried to catch you yesterday to ask about chantix? Did it work?
Submitted by Katt on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:50am.
Ah, if only Michael's family had shown such an interest in him while he was still living. Maybe he wouldn't be gone. The dr was negligent and unethical to give him the drugs, but it's hardly murder.
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nice comment. thats it in a nut shell to me.
(cool avie too!♥)
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Submitted by Twilight on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:24am.
Yes, the doctors and personal handlers that supplied illegal drugs have a LOT to answer for. But La Toya--if you and the family KNEW Michael had a severa drug problem and you LET him continue and did NOT contact authorities and FORCE him into rehab, then YOU and the FAMILY have a burden of responsibility here.
As the daughter of a life long heavy drug user, I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on your opinion. You obviously have no idea what it's like to be around a user that has no plans to quit and has no problem bringing everyone down with them. There's no way to FORCE anyone into rehab unless they're willing. I know my family tried at least 5 times before having to give up. There's no amount of intervention that can stop someone that's dead set against stopping. The only thing a person can do is cut the junkie completely out of their lives. To hold the Jacksons accountable because Michael was a prescription drug addict is crazy. Michael was the addict, not his family, so why should they be the ones that have to pay for anything? And you have no idea how many interventions or times some relative tried to make him quit.
And O/T - if MJ overdoesed, it is not murder. Suicide maybe, but not murder. The doctor should be charged for illegally prescribing/administrating drugs and go to jail for many years, but not under the heading "murder".
Saw this coming from two miles away.
Hello, you autopsy a body covered in needle marks you really don't exactly have to wait for toxology. that and the fact that a person as rich and famous as MJ could have a dr in his pocket is no big shock.
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Submitted by Hekki on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:16am.
Well, she's right that he administered the fatal dose, but ACCORDING TO NANCY GRACE, MJ had been taking this anesthetic to get to sleep. Sometimes he would stay under for 72 hours. That is one of the craziest things I've ever heard an addict do.
Damn, that's nuts. Wouldn't someone be poopin' and peein' all over themself? Yuck.
I mean, forget the horrific state of a person's health and mental situation, shit....
I would call it maybe...criminally negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter.
You know I know this, due to my many hours of analyzing "Law and Order."
Submitted by NaNoop on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:46am.
I'm wondering if this is being hyped as a straight up murder, when possibly it is going to be classified as unintentional murder (where it's not premeditated, but more accidental
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Ya.
Nancy Grace and Jane Vellez-Mitchell have been screaming at us through the t.v. that it looks like murder.
However, one of the guests suggested "they" might bring "manslaughter charges"
Ah, if only Michael's family had shown such an interest in him while he was still living. Maybe he wouldn't be gone. The dr was negligent and unethical to give him the drugs, but it's hardly murder.
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"Two faces you have. Two faces, keep one in your bag. Well, I'm biding my time like a cellar of wine but with two faces you'll never be true".
Ah, if only Michael's family had shown such an interest in him while he was still living. Maybe he wouldn't be gone. The dr was negligent and unethical to give him the drugs, but it's hardly murder.
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"Two faces you have. Two faces, keep one in your bag. Well, I'm biding my time like a cellar of wine but with two faces you'll never be true".
Hey, NoAnjl! Lots of Phillies at the All-Star Game last night. Too bad the NL didn't win.
"JUST SMILE LIKE A NORMAL FUCKED UP PERSON."
Charles Manson
Submitted by JMP on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:46am.
Most families have at least one family member not playing with a full deck, however, in the case of the Jackson family, it’s a full house.
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Submitted by louise_brooks on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:37am.
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Yes! A sick day off school meant watching "Donahue"!!! lol
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Submitted by Hekki on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:16am.
Well, she's right that he administered the fatal dose, but ACCORDING TO NANCY GRACE, MJ had been taking this anesthetic to get to sleep. Sometimes he would stay under for 72 hours. That is one of the craziest things I've ever heard an addict do.
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hmmm.... very crazy!
makes one wonder if he wasn't trying to accomplish something else...like sleeping to avoid aging...
also wondering if the anesthesia can be administered like formaldehyde - inhaling it and it knocks you out...does propol do that?
i just woke up.
I didn't have a "Psychic Hotline", but even I knew Michael's "comeback" concerts would never happen because he was too drug-addled to perform.
How in hell did the doctors hired by the promoters find him fit? How did the promoters think MJ could handle one show, let alone 20?
TMZ had reported that MJ was reportedly "listless" in rehearsals. Shady Dr. Conrad Murray was in their employ.
Now, yes, MJ was a junkie, but something in the milk ain't clean here.
Maybe Murray was hired to keep MJ "going for the show", but failing that, insurance would cover his OD, whereas insurance wouldn't cover cancelled concerts if he was alive.
Or maybe MJ offed himself, knowing he would never be able to perform his "indentured servitude" concerts, and he wanted to go out on top. I wonder if we'll ever know.
"JUST SMILE LIKE A NORMAL FUCKED UP PERSON."
Charles Manson
Good morning everybody :)
A former nurse of his said that he begged her to give him this drug, that the one mentioned, I forget the name and she refused. Looks like this guy caved. Too bad Joe didn't die instead of MJ.
Submitted by Stoney on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:46am.
Exactly missy. I wish people would start holding Michael responsible for his shit. Oh wah wah he was a gentle soul wah wah. He was a junkie!
And you guys hit it on the head. More than anything MJ brought this on his own damn self.
I'm wondering if this is being hyped as a straight up murder, when possibly it is going to be classified as unintentional murder (where it's not premeditated, but more accidental).
Although, to call it like it is, if that doctor was giving him that drug, he SHOULD be treated like a murderer. You don't play with the hard shit like that. No excuse.
Most families have at least one family member not playing with a full deck, however, in the case of the Jackson family, it’s a full house.
Exactly missy. I wish people would start holding Michael responsible for his shit. Oh wah wah he was a gentle soul wah wah. He was a junkie!
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Submitted by chowgirl69 on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:43am.
That wouldn't surprise me in the least!
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There's not a doctor in the WORLD who would administer Propofol in a home setting without anticipating that the subject would go into full blown cardiac/respiratory arrest. The guy graduated possibly the worst most affirmative action medical school in the nation and was board-certified in nothing and probably hand-picked as a "yes" man. Fool. I would have loved to have seen the look on his face and the "Michael Jackson's Doctor" cards in his suit breast pocket.
>yawn<
Waiting for open post or at least another subject...
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"Sam put drugs in Britney's biscuits"
Dr. Conrad is going down!!
Submitted by freebird on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:40am.
This investigation is Gonna Get ROCKED!
HAHAHA
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Submitted by shut the smurf up on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:34am.
Submitted by CRAZY on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:30am.
Submitted by shut the smurf up on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:26am.
eventually his body would have said "I quit this bitch" and mooned walked away! Shamon!
I think Michael's body quit on him, years ago, the nose quit first and the rest followed. :P
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Actually, I was listening to satelite radio and some dude on there who "SUPPOSEDLY" knew someone in the LA coroners office said that he was told the Michaels nose was actually a prosthetic. He also said that Michaels body was completely white & hairless (including his head). Who know if its true though, apparently the autopsy report is to be released on Friday.
Submitted by Stoney on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:41am.
Just because the doctor supplied the drugs doesn't mean Michael wasn't begging for it.
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what motivation would the doc have for prescribing meds that are so strong they should never be administered outside of a hospital?
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Just because the doctor supplied the drugs doesn't mean Michael wasn't begging for it.
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This investigation is Gonna Get ROCKED!
Completely agree with Twilight and Smurf.
Unless the drugs were forced into him, it wasn't murder.
any talk of leaked autopsy photos? A noseless, bald MJ would be interesting to see.. maybe?
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In other news, I'm sick to death of cocksuckers taking down old music videos from YouTube using the "copyright infringement" bs. No one is making money from the videos and the record companies are losing free advertisement. So much for freedom eh?
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"Sam put drugs in Britney's biscuits"
you know, I empathise with the Doc's on this. My BF has been going through some major illnesses and his docs had him on dilaudids for a bit... he obviously wanted to stay on them and the doc's said no because he has a history of drug abuse. But if the Doc's followed his wishes (ie. if the BF had more power than say, a former junkie) then he could have easily ODed if he did somehting dumb. The Doc would get charged, but who's at fault? The dead junkie thats who!
meh.
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Submitted by loozer on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:36am.
Bahahahahahahaha!
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Submitted by The Fly on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:26am.
Yes! I remember that, too! I was a latch-key kid and watched Donahue after school.
Phil Hartman did the best Donahue impression.
Submitted by Hekki on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:16am.
Well, she's right that he administered the fatal dose, but ACCORDING TO NANCY GRACE, MJ had been taking this anesthetic to get to sleep. Sometimes he would stay under for 72 hours. That is one of the craziest things I've ever heard an addict do.
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Yes, and apparently he had been doing this for YEARS! He had severe insomnia and needed someone to administer it to him. His nurse was being interviewed on CNN I think and she said he asked her to do it for him, but she refused. When asked, she said that Michael would never do it to himself as he was terrified of needles (ironically).
I think MJ just created an entirely new form of addiction. What would it be called? Seriously.. I was watching HLN and someone said that even addicts dont go as far as he did.
As I've said before, this family is so dysfunctional and dellusional that they wouldnt know reality if it climbed up their altered faces and kicked them in the head! Seriously- whats up with their faces? Did they ask for the Jackson Special when they walked into their plastic surgeons office?
No one deserved to be murdered, if it's true, however MJ certainly did choose a drug that put his life in another persons hands...
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I read that it could be classified as second-degree murder.
All this MJ news makes me want to watch Mulholland Drive again. All this weird LA shit.
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Submitted by CRAZY on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:30am.
Submitted by shut the smurf up on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 9:26am.
eventually his body would have said "I quit this bitch" and mooned walked away! Shamon!
I think Michael's body quit on him, years ago, the nose quit first and the rest followed. :P
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