La Toya Was Right (Maybe)
La Toya Jackson gave an interview to the Daily Mail over the weekend where she said that she really believes her brother was murdered. La Toya said that she's going to watch several episodes of Father Dowling Mysteries, take notes and then get to the bottom of everything. Well, La Toya might have been right, because TMZ says that the LAPD is treating Michael's death as a homicide.
Sources within the LAPD say that the investigators are focusing on one of Michael's doctor, Dr. Conrad Murray. Apparently, there is evidence that Dr. Murray gave Michael the anesthesia Propofol which was the primary cause of his death. The evidence includes vials of Propofol founds in the house along with an oxygen stand and IV stand. Dr. Murray's lawyer refused to say one word about the allegations.
From here on out, I will never doubt La Toya again.
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Don't be a jelis h8er, cornhole.
LOL
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Hey Cornhole - how bout you go straight fuck yourself.
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Submitted by jack-n-the-hat on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 12:33pm.
Stoney ~ if I wasn't a married man....... !!!!
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ugh. please remind me to never get married.
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Back at ya gorgeous!
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*muah*
I love you jack!!
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Stoney ~ if I wasn't a married man....... !!!!
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I am only threatening you with the challenge to think.
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Cornhole:
http://dermnetnz.org/reactions/iv-drug-abuse.html
Considering that brown recluse bites are rare, especially in California, and even more rare that a serious abscess would form after a bite especially if the person is rich and can seek quick treatment, isn't it more likely that his abscess was caused by intravenous drug use, considering we already KNOW he had an addiction to shooting up demerol? Common sense seems to be in short supply around here.
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Yeah! He was murdered by all the drugs he was taking!!! After Jacko couldn't sleep with another child & getting away with it, he moved on to drugs!!!! Im done with Michael since 15 years ago!!! Lol
LaToya looks like my granny, and not in a good way
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"Have they even planted poor Michael yet?"
Last thing I read is they stashed him in Barry Gordy's crypt for now. I guess the family is waiting for Michael's brain to be returned so his entire body can be buried.
http://images.google.com/images?q=brown+recluse+bite&btnG=Search+images&...
You can force someone into rehab but you CANNOT make them stay clean if they don't want to. MJ had been to rehab at least once, probably many more times than that, at the urging of his family/friends.
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Submitted by Jessica_Wakefield on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:40am.
LOL at "forcing" him into rehab. How do you FORCE a grown man into rehab? Cannot be done.
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Oh yes it can. If anyone wants pointers on how to commit a family member, I'll leave my contact information with dlisted.
I'll connect you with my family, which knows just exactly how to get someone's ass put in jail and/or rehab.
That's a fact and I stand by it.
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Yes, it will be involuntary manslaughter and the doctor or doctor's need to all be prosecuted. Michael knew exactly what the hell he was doing. Latoya is idiot who, like the rest of her family is all about the denial. We need to rename them the "Jackson Victims"........he is dead and is 50% responsible (if not a 100%) for being sedated and not waking up.
Submitted by The Great Cornholio on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:47am.
The article didn't say they did it over and over again, just that it leaked onto his skin and caused the lesion.
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I'm seriously LOLing at the brown recluse excuse. Michael lied about everything to keep the freak truth from coming out. "I only had two plastic surgeries" "I used my own sperm for my children" "I never touched those kids even though they can describe my penis in detail and I installed an alarm in my fortress bedroom to alert me that people were coming down the hall" and the best one: "I don't use drugs." PLEASE. That man would have looked you straight in the face and told you the sky wasn't blue if it meant he could escape responsibility for his own actions!
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Submitted by Stoney on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:37am.
How does it make more sense that they continued to shove an IV into a decaying hole like that over and over and over again? There are other places to plunge that junk.
Those are the ugliest damned legs I've ever seen.
*barfs*
Looks like he's got gangreen on his shin!
Holy shit those were pics from when he was ALIVE??? WTFFFF
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"Sam put drugs in Britney's biscuits"
LOL at "forcing" him into rehab. How do you FORCE a grown man into rehab? Cannot be done. The most a family and friends can do is stage an intervention. But that's about it. And even IF they talked him into rehab it would have gone to shit. The whole purpose of rehab is that the addict has to WANT to be there. Has to WANT to get better. Has to know and understand he/she has a problem. If you go into rehab because you were talked into it or threatened with jail, they'll relapse as soon as they get out. Rehab is not for escaping your families nagging and escaping possible jail time.
As for the doctors, shit yeah there will be hell to pay. Yes, Michael is an addict and begged for the drugs. The problem is that whoever administered the drug will have to face the music if something goes wrong. It's one thing to give Michael the drug and then haul ass while Michael injects himself. But the fact that a doctor personally administered the drugs? Oh, hell no.
I am not a Jackson sympathizer. But the doctor is at least 50% responsible for the death. If an overdose is what Michael died of. Wouldn't that be involuntary manslaughter or something?
Why would a brown recluse want to bite THAT?
I bet they WERE putting an IV in his leg. The coroner has already said all the veins in his arms were collapsed. And those are obviously track marks inside his knees. A brown recluse. RIIIIGGGGHTTT.
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Submitted by Stoney on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:25am.
OH.GOD.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MichaelJackson/Story?id=8083809&page=1
Yikes. Interestingly those pics and stuff were from 2002.
PUKEOLA!!
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"Sam put drugs in Britney's biscuits"
Jesus fucking Christ Stoney.
Vom.
Michael released the photos of his leg to prove to the court that he was unable to attend a hearing due to having been bitten by a brown recluse spider.
Submitted by Mr. Mercury on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:13am.
See? I told you so! La Nancy Drew has discovered the hidden spiral staircase and uncovered the mystery of MJ's death. Who woulda thought? By the way, do you think that's a wig she has on in the pic?
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Naaaaw! That hair is 100% virgin real silk...
And the nose has NEVER been touched by a surgeon either!
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OH.GOD.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MichaelJackson/Story?id=8083809&page=1
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Submitted by Team KFed on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:08am.
I understand! *hugs*
*off to google leg pictures from Good Morning America*
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I said it the first time, greedy ass doctors + MJ drug habit= death. I know they are all wishing they had never met his ass now.
It was still wrong of her to sell a story to a tabloid, when it isn't even clear if her brother has been buried yet. Did anyone else see the pics on Good Morning America this morning of MJ's legs back in 2002? The photos appear to be real. GROOOOSSSSS!
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See? I told you so! La Nancy Drew has discovered the hidden spiral staircase and uncovered the mystery of MJ's death. Who woulda thought? By the way, do you think that's a wig she has on in the pic?
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Submitted by Team KFed on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:08am.
I'm the first to admit that hearing comments about how the family is to blame for MJ's drug problems makes me see red dots on a very personal level.
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me too
*off to Birthday Sluts thread*
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And, back to the main point: LaToyotalina was kinda skanky selling off her brother's story before he was cold in the ground.
She could have accomplished the same thing without money changing hands.
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Submitted by Stoney on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:59am.
"Anyone that thinks that a family can just call the police and they'll ship your Dad/Mom/Sister/Brother/ect. off to rehab and everyone will live a merry life is twisted."
I don't think ANYONE said that.
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You're right, that may not have been the fairest of statements to make. I'm the first to admit that hearing comments about how the family is to blame for MJ's drug problems makes me see red dots on a very personal level.
Which is why I'm slooooowly walking away from this thread...
I think it's pretty obvious Dr. Klein is also a junkie. Somebody needs to drug test that piece of shit.
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*shocked*
Wow. This thread is blowing UP.
*pops popcorn*
God Bless La Toya.
Just to clarify, in MJ's case, it is pretty obvious now that he needed intervention.
I guess because I saw the destructive effect of forced committal, that's what is foremost in my mind. But I believe it can work.
[My family member was forced into rehab. I don't know all the legal details, but I saw it happen.]
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"Anyone that thinks that a family can just call the police and they'll ship your Dad/Mom/Sister/Brother/ect. off to rehab and everyone will live a merry life is twisted."
I don't think ANYONE said that.
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this whole thing is hideous. what that doctor(s) did was MUCH more than enabling. before anyone shouts that MJ was an addict and it's his doing alone, these people took an oath to DO NO HARM & to actually use the training they received to keep their patient healthy, regardless of what that patient THINKS he wants.
Instead they appear to not only have knowingly prescribed controlled substances continually knowing full well he was an addict but also actively administered potentially deadly anesthesia (!?!?). That shit shouldn't even be found outside the OR, let alone be used for "sleep" or whatever else. Without a dr., MJ never would have gotten his hands on this.
IMO, they may not have set out to kill him, but they knew FULL well that this could be the result and took a gamble that it wouldn't go this way, and that they could continue to get their payout, privilege and whatever else they got hanging out with him.
These people need to be prosecuted and to have their licenses revoked. Disgusting is not the word.
Anyone that thinks that a family can just call the police and they'll ship your Dad/Mom/Sister/Brother/ect. off to rehab and everyone will live a merry life is twisted. You people have no idea. Just because you saw it happen to Britney, you think that's how it works??? Please. As I said before, Britney was young and losing everything fast, her dad (who was always a strong influence in her young life) stepped in to tell her what to do and she did it. She did it because she was young, losing everything and was practically begging for a man (any man) to tell her what to do in the first place. This is in no way how it goes down in real people life.
I agree with everyone that said an addict will quit when they decide to quit, no matter how many loved ones they hurt along the way. And the police (hahahahaha!) are unable to really do anything except lock them up for a couple hours. Which is what happened when my dad - on crack - punched me dead in my eye because I wouldn't give him my mom's purse. He was arrested and locked up for a week on a domestic charge. No rehab. No intervention by the law. No nothing. Tell me again how it's MY fault that my dad is a raving crack head? Because I didn't drive him to rehab myself 3 seperate times? Because I didn't call the police on him more times than I can count? Maybe my little sister or mom or aunts or uncles or cousins or grandparents or neighbors or church should've done more... oh wait, they fucking did - for 10 straight years. So please excuse me if I say that the family, even if they knew that MJ was sticking a needle full of pine sol in his dick 23 times a day, is in no way to blame for his addictions.
*deep breath* and now I'm over it. Carry on whores :)
Submitted by Stoney on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:32am.
Oh yeah it's complex. That's what sucks so hard about it.
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In my relative's situation, the family member was thrown into a crappy rehab without much (if any) consideration for whether the "treatment" was effective or not. Or if the "treatment" was actually destructive.
I can see where intervention would be appropriate, helpful, necessary if handled properly.
Edit: One basic point being that any power position can be abused. I realize this is the minority perspective, but it is worth considering.
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Submitted by Stoney on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:34am.
She said MJ was a perv?
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She once made a statement that she couldn't stand by and say nothing while MJ molested those boys. She later retracted that statement saying her ex-husband made her say it- he gave her a piece of paper before a press conference and told her to read it out loud to the reporters.
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Submitted by xerquina on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:33am.
if i had a addict in my family who didn't wanna go to rehab, I'd lock them in the basement until the tooth fairy takes them.
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Now xerq, let's leave Solange in the basement where she belongs.
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Submitted by chefcammi on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 10:27am
I have a sneaking feeling that somewhere Joe Jackson is copying & pasting this shit for future reference=))
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"Sam put drugs in Britney's biscuits"
you cant force someone into rehab no, but you can find ways to help get them there.
my family did all they could to get me arrested, and then worked with the judge to give me a lighter sentance if i agreed to rehab. it worked cause fuck me if I was going to jail for three years.
with someone with an unlimited supply of cash and resources though, thatd be near impossible. I would have never gotten arrested if i didnt have to do some shady bullshit to get my drugs.
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She said MJ was a perv?
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