Melissa Etheridge Might Have The Right Idea
Since Prop 8 passed in California, Melissa Etheridge's marriage to Tammy Lynn Michaels isn't really a marriage anymore in the legal sense. I guess? Right? Well, Melissa will protest the ban on gay marriage by not paying state taxes! Melissa wrote on The Daily Beast about her plan:
Okay. So Prop 8 passed. Alright, I get it. 51% of you think that I am a second class citizen. Alright then. So my wife, uh I mean, roommate? Girlfriend? Special lady friend? You are gonna have to help me here because I am not sure what to call her now. Anyways, she and I are not allowed the same right under the state constitution as any other citizen. Okay, so I am taking that to mean I do not have to pay my state taxes because I am not a full citizen. I mean that would just be wrong, to make someone pay taxes and not give them the same rights, sounds sort of like that taxation without representation thing from the history books.Okay, cool I don't mean to get too personal here but there is a lot I can do with the extra half a million dollars that I will be keeping instead of handing it over to the state of California. Oh, and I am sure Ellen will be a little excited to keep her bazillion bucks that she pays in taxes too. Wow, come to think of it, there are quite a few of us fortunate gay folks that will be having some extra cash this year. What recession? We're gay! I am sure there will be a little box on the tax forms now single, married, divorced, gay, check here if you are gay, yeah, that's not so bad. Of course all of the waiters and hairdressers and UPS worker
Hmmm....no state taxes in California? CA already has In-N-Out and now the gays don't have to pay taxes! Woo hoo! Grab my dildo collection, pa, I'm going out west!
Think of all the things I can buy with my extra dough from not paying state taxes. I can buy more discontinued Mother's Animal Cookies, I can eat In-N-Out all day, I can even go to Disneyland like once (that shit ain't cheap)! Fuck. All of us can go to T.G.I. Friday's and the Mudslides will be on me! It'll be a 24-hour party!
That's until the IRS comes to kill my fun and take me away in handcuffs. When I start screaming, "Melissa Etheridge told me I didn't have to pay taxes," they'll just nod their heads and shuttle me off to prison. Oh well. At least you can bring me warm Hot Pockets during visiting days. You'll owe me for all those cocktails I bought you! And I'm sure I can be someone's wife in the clink!
Click here to read Melissa's entire entry.
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@Wa-wa-wi-wa:
There's A LOT of things I don't like about people in this world...but when I choose to live in a world that has over six million people occupying it, I learn to deal with the diversified spectrum of things that come with that. Especially if those "things" don't directly effect me and my life.
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hahah Angel, sure. I'll handle the nice church lady for you.
Thanks Aquarius. I wish I had been there for the debate!
Wa Wa wi Wa, excellent points!
Wa Wa wa ....try 6 billion people...
Reading your stuff is ridiculous. I dont know what crowds you hang around with...you know, where you go somewhere and see a blonde bitch blowing a dude on the street corner and people constantly touching each other or engaging in some kind of (hetero) sexual act that you find appalling. It's amusing how you equate the heterosexuality of a whole planet to crap you see at the corner of sunset/hollywood. And btw, the mardi gras is not a sexual-orientation parade...hmmmm...you talk like a hater...
"Charlie you fucking bitch, let's work it out" - High Fidelity
Is it a wonder how those who oppose gay marriage start their sentence with (I think) and/or (something like that)...and those who are in favor of gays having equal rights give concrete, factual, and sound merits to back up their opening line.
As for the person who asked us not to "shove homosexuality down your throats"...sure thing...once you stop shoving heterosexuality down my throat when I turn on the T.V and see Hiedi and Spencer (the "God fearing" angelic souls) sucking face on camera, or driving past Sunset and seeing a girl going down on some drunk dude behind a parking lot, or being at the local dog park where a hetro couple is holding hands and groping each other...you stop that, and we'll stop being gay. Fair?...No?...deal with the pride parades. If some of you had it your way, we'd be locked up with the keys thrown out for even engaging in a homosexual/erotic thought process.
There's A LOT of things I don't like about people in this world...but when I choose to live in a world that has over six million people occupying it, I learn to deal with the diversified spectrum of things that come with that. Especially if those "things" don't directly effect me and my life.
p.s~ Amazing how the Pride parade has become the driving force behind dismay toward all things gay. Having recently attended YOUR equivalence to a Pride festival (Mardi Gras) where people were doing things ON THE STREET I didn't think could be humanly possible, which made Pride parades look like a night of Bible study with Grandma, I'd say it's not the parade that offends you...it's the notion these "fags get to be fags" that really irks you.
Wow, Gabriela. Can you come to my house. I have the Jdub who's like, addicted to me. She's KIND OF a nice lady and I just can't be mean! Ugh.
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Submitted by Gabriela on Sat, 11/08/2008 - 1:34pm.
You go girl! Great posts.
Some Mormons came by my house in Indiana as the husband and I were packing to move to New York. I wish I had the conversation that ensued on tape, it was a good one. I'm usually too nonconfrontational to say anything other than, "Not interested, thanks," but my husband quite enjoys religious debates, it makes for good watching. I hope they read what you gave them.
Jehova's witnesses just came banging on my door again! They handed me a pamphlet and I handed them a copy of Bertrand Russell's "Why I Am Not A Christian."
r5bales,
The Dansbury Baptists fearing persecution from other Christian sects implored Jefferson to build up a wall between church and state and this separation is referenced in the First Amendment. You're right however that this does not imply that government was altogether unfriendly toward religion. After all, churches do enjoy a tax exempt status.
But our founding fathers were for the most part deists influenced more by the principles of John Locke than by scripture. They understood the dangers to personal freedom that result from establishing an official religion. Consequently this created a free market atmosphere among churches, such as had never been witnessed. So many denominations so many sects competing for souls because souls equal cash. Religion is and has always been, for those who control it, a remunerative enterprise.
correction..... to make sure the state didn't make an official church/religion. (bad typo)
The roundest knight at King Arthur's round table was Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi.
correction..... to make sure the state didn't make an official church/religion. (bad typo)
The roundest knight at King Arthur's round table was Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi.
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Submitted by Team Valtrex on November 8, 2008 - 3:54am.
1)Or when the participant thinsk it is necessary to let us see their dicks. It gets tiresome.
2) This separation of church and state claim is annoying. First of all it is not mentioned in the constitution. Jefferson (I think) used that term in one of his papers. The reason for the "Separation of Church and State" is to make sure the state have an official church. The only reason the state has it's fingers in the marriage pie is to gain income.
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Your arguments from "nature" against gay marriage are very thin. It is clear now from numerous studies that there is a strong biological component to homosexuality, and that there is a good deal of homosexual behavior in other species. I don't know what you mean, then, when you say homosexuality is not "natural", other than stating the obvious fact that such behavior won't produce children. But there are many "natural" behaviors, such as defending a kin group, which may not directly produce offspring, but will at the same time lead to greater group prosperity in the long run. Homosexuality is quite probably related evolutionarily to this kind of trade off.
As for the argument for tradition: Marriage traditions once took for granted polygamy, suppression of women's rights, restrictions on divorce, sanctioned beatings, etc. Thank goodness we did NOT draw any lines to defend these traditions.
Submitted by angel_i on November 8, 2008 - 12:19pm.
See Mr. President? That's what I like about you - you're a SMART GUY!
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Smart guy. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OK, I'm smart enough to get the Robespierre reference. He's the backup goalie for the Black Hawks, right?
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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 8, 2008 - 11:58am.
I want change too and maybe i should make it a point of evading to pay taxes, like Melissa Etheridge, until EVERY CHILD IN THE US HAS ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, FOOD, AND EDUCATION.
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that sounds like a fabulous idea and you should get started on it right away.
however, there is a world of difference between making a true argument for your point of view and spouting analogies and hypotheticals.
Submitted by Mr. President on November 8, 2008 - 11:36am.
The only time I get into heated discussions about lesbians is when they're wearing cheerleader outfits in the locker room.
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Submitted by Sheeps on November 8, 2008 - 11:47am.
Submitted by LookUpYourEx on November 8, 2008 - 11:45am.
do you even know what a blog is?
This is not the Huffington Post. It's a silly gossip blog where the vast bulk of the posts are about hippos and high heels.
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When you publish the "blog rule book," let us all know.
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That's my issue and EVERYONE who opposes, and I mean everyone, will automatically be sent to Guantanamo Bay for immediate questioning - having to wear a sign that says "I am a hater and a bigot".
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That, right there, is a bigotted statement. When I first started typing it's because you said yours wasn't a religious opinion. I was curious and interested in your perspective - and I had some things to say myself.
I only called you a hater because instead of saying anything valid you just said: it's wrong. You said: IT"S WRONG ItS WRONG It's WRONG!
I dunno - that just sounds like a hater to me.
I just want to say this LAST thing:
MK could easily say that people who don't support gay marriage can't post here. It's his blog - he can make up whatever rule he feels like making. LIKE TAKING AWAY OUR POST COUNTS!!!! *hinthint* But he doesn't. Know why? Cuz he believes in freedom. EVEN if it could be fucking with his own life.
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@CandyPerfumeGirl:
Well, you get a lot of practice so good luck with that. I, myself, don't have to worry cuz we have that already. O yeah - and gays are allowed to marry.
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Damn... My head hurts
Oh Angel-I: PGE and GOOGLE donated money for this cause. I mean shit loads of money. "That means they used money that SHOULD have gone to your roads, and schools and hospitals. Money they get to hold back from the community proper because they are a corporation with tons of tax breaks and exemptions - no auditing. That means that even if you didn't want to have to vote, to a certain extent, YOU paid for it."
As sheeps said "all kinds of non-religious people voted for it on non-religious grounds, like biology, tradition, legality, etc.". No haters and bigots. I want change too and maybe i should make it a point of evading to pay taxes, like Melissa Etheridge, until EVERY CHILD IN THE US HAS ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, FOOD, AND EDUCATION.
That's my issue and EVERYONE who opposes, and I mean everyone, will automatically be sent to Guantanamo Bay for immediate questioning - having to wear a sign that says "I am a hater and a bigot".
I am gonna make it a point to publicly say so and call them names and savage their asses until MY POINT COMES ACROSS. This is a war for equality and I will fight for it until every child has health care - cause my role model is Robespierre who once said "To punish the oppressors of humanity is clemency; to forgive them is cruelty." WOOHA!!
Sheeps,
With the Brownies, it's ALWAYS next year!
At least we still have LBJ!
And when will we see hippos in heels is what i wanna know!
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Tammy has a Hilary Duff vibe goin' on
Submitted by Mr. President on November 8, 2008 - 11:43am.
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Mr Prez you don't have to explain yourself. Pierre Trudeau once famously said that the government had no place in the bedrooms of the nation. Now in your case, we're talking locker rooms, and secondly you ain't Canuck (I know that 'cause you keep bashing our treasured national icon, Ponderosa)Sooooo, keep drilling. You're good to go :)
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Submitted by LookUpYourEx on November 8, 2008 - 11:45am.
do you even know what a blog is?
This is not the Huffington Post. It's a silly gossip blog where the vast bulk of the posts are about hippos and high heels.
Submitted by Clarisse on November 8, 2008 - 11:34am.
When i went to bed we were up by 10! Defense forgot the game was on Thursday...they were waiting for Sunday.
Apologist! Next game is at Buffalo. "There's always next year"?
Submitted by Sheeps on November 8, 2008 - 11:20am.
I sometimes wish MK wouldn't post anything political, but doing so gets him a lot of hits. I see the wisdom in the old advice not to discuss politics or religion in company.
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do you even know what a blog is?
Hi Joe. If by "addressing" the nation you mean drilling a peek hole through the wall... Kidding!
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I just want to make sure that a million years from now I can still see you up close and we'll still have amazing things to say.
It WAS hard. They both ganged up on me...Talking about how it's wrong to teach that in school...blah,blah,blah
I told them that at the end of the day, people are still going to do whatever they want and I'm going to vote whatever I WANT. It wasn't pretty
They are Catholic...so yeah, I went there and asked if it was okay for priests to do what the did with small boys *long pause* Mr. XX said no
OKAY then! We still didn't agree...But he saw my point
Submitted by Mr. President on November 8, 2008 - 11:36am
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You undress..I mean address the nation in locker rooms?
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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 6:08pm.
So there you go, HE IS NOT IN FAVOR OF IT...but he didnt wanna come across as an asshole saying he doesnt understand the plight of people who love each other and wanna get hitched and so he referenced this lofty "this is not what America is about" - i. e. I will not amend the Constitution to prohibit gay marriage but I will also not change it to include it.
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He didn't want to come across as an asshole?!?!? LOFTY?!?!?!?!!?
R U kidding me?
The man taught Constitutional Law for 12 years. It's not just some tool he's using to deflect or distract from the real issue, it is the real issue.
IT *IS* WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT.
You are allowed to express your opinion and you clearly have no reluctance to do so, however, you are a bigot.
The only time I get into heated discussions about lesbians is when they're wearing cheerleader outfits in the locker room.
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Submitted by xxyxz on November 8, 2008 - 11:34am.
Angel-i
Yes...They would have made a big difference!
I voted no on 8... Most of the people I know voted yes. I had fights with Mr.XX and My FIL
But at the end of the day.... It's My vote and MY Choice :)
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Wow. That must have been hard. And look - you're still married! See? It IS possible to disagree and still live together;p But seriously - that is cool.
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Yes...They would have made a big difference!
I voted no on 8... Most of the people I know voted yes. I had fights with Mr.XX and My FIL
But at the end of the day.... It's My vote and MY Choice :)
Sheeps =)
When i went to bed we were up by 10! Defense forgot the game was on Thursday...they were waiting for Sunday.
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Submitted by LookUpYourEx on November 8, 2008 - 11:28am.
discussions get heated.
if certain people can't stand the heat, said people should get the fuck out of the kitchen
Proving my point. And why I'll stay out of this kitchen.
Submitted by Clarisse on November 8, 2008 - 11:18am.
Soooo...How bout them Browns?
I watched some of Thursday's game. I guess it's good you're a loyal supporter. :)
Thank you, Sheeps. Fair enough.
I will just say that it's part of my issue, right there. It's not just this - I mostly think that government is too big and somethings need to be handle a LOT more locally.
Here, our neighborhoods are radically different. If you were to do a vote like that by neighborhood you'd get crazy different results and a clear idea of who is into what...
If you don't get NEAR 100% then you don't get a really accurate vote - wasn't it close...like 54/46 or some shit? (someone else can answer - I respect your wish not to get involved) Those votes could have made a difference, yes?
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discussions get heated.
if certain people can't stand the heat, said people should get the fuck out of the kitchen
Submitted by angel_i on November 8, 2008 - 11:15am.
I dint know about any Mormon support for Prop 8 until the protests this week. But all kinds of non-religious people voted for it on non-religious grounds, like biology, tradition, legality, etc. (I'm not willing to engage in any debate over Prop 8--I'm just trying to explain the vote.) And it was a "fair" vote, in the sense that turnout was high, voting was regular, no one got turned away (except that Tim Robbins--hee hee), and the votes were properly tallied. You never get even near 100% turnout in the US.
Sheeps,
Or the Great Pumpkin!
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wake up M.K . I want to say Happy Birthday to the sluts and go back to sleep
Submitted by putsomestankonit on November 8, 2008 - 11:12am.
I sometimes wish MK wouldn't post anything political, but doing so gets him a lot of hits. I see the wisdom in the old advice not to discuss politics or religion in company.
Soooo...How bout them Browns?
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I dont hate gay people. I really dont. What I hate, is intolerant assholes (oh, not name calling, but you ARE an asshole!)
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I'm an asshole? You have yet to answer ONE of my questions. I am engaging in debate. I'm giving you facts and opinions. What? I'm not allowed to do that cuz I think gays should be able to marry?
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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 8, 2008 - 11:11am.
No Angel-I , I dont hate gays. YOU, on the other hand, are so caught up in your black/white: "if you're anti gay marriage, then you hate gays/if youre pro gay marriage, then you are a tolerant angel" attitude,
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@Sheeps: To be fair - it's just the way things came up. The point I'm trying to make is that I didn't call her names but she is still calling me names: like stupid (I missed that one). I feel really strongly about it cuz I'm SO tired of people being discriminated against. And because i think that vote was a farce. Until you visit EVERY SINGLE HOUSEHOLD in CA and get their opinion, the vote is just a joke. 14 million more voters this year for presidency - that's 14 million people who FINALLY got off their lazy asses and that was a WAY bigger issue.
A friend mentioned something to me today. It's that the Mormons used their tax-free dollars to pay for that Proposition. That means they used money that SHOULD have gone to your roads, and schools and hospitals. Money they get to hold back from the community proper because they are a charity. That means that even if you didn't want to have to vote, to a certain extent, YOU paid for it.
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@Sheeps, you have a valid point and I know I'm guilty of that. Sometimes I get so pissed that name calling is all I know. Shame on me :(
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