JLo, Give The Girl Some Of Yours

Submitted by Francine on October 24, 2008 - 11:42am.

This is obviously the only way she knows to get attention
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I wholeheartedly DISAGREE.
Pardon me for my rudeness here, but if you haven't suffered from an ED, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I think the other ED sufferers/survivors will agree with me here.

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Submitted by louise_brooks on October 24, 2008 - 11:29am.

I really don't think my mom had much to do with it. She criticized her body now and then, but she never went on diets and never pressured me to look pretty or thin.

What frustrates me about the analysis of eating disorders is that there are so many factors involved at once, and every case is different, so you can't pin down control or media images as the main reason for eating disorders because there is none.

The picture of poor Allegra next to her Mom makes me cringe!!!

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That kid is killing herself. Why won't her mom put her in re-hab?

I do manual labor all winter, I get to a size eight, my boss told me I look like a fifteen year old boy from behind, and I weigh one hundred and sixty pounds.
muscle weighs more than fat, I'm living proof.
scales are bullshit.

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"I'm pretty sure I asked you to pick up some Pecan Sandies."

Why does she make Hey-ho look like the fat bitch fom hairspray?

This is obviously the only way she knows to get attention. I'm so not into Dr. Philism but dude needs to get into therapy. I sho' did love me some blow way back in the day, but never got this thin. She's seriously fucked up.

Jeffro11,
"JHO isn't really fat, she's just a talentless asshole."

Truer words have never been uttered...

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Why do I read? Well...hmmm...I dunno...I guess I read for a lot of reasons and the main one is so I don't end up being a fuckin' waffle waitress.

I agree, Cheryl Burke is not fat. She's just a jerk. Brittany also was never fat.

To type this next bit hurts me to the core of my being, but Khloe Kardashian is not fat either.

I'm going to go flog myself for saying something nice about a Kardashian.

I agree- I get pissed off when people call Britney fat.
I hate her stumpy legs, and her arms are fleshier than before she had the babies, but she is NOT fat at ALL.

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- Basement Baby "I Decided"
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Submitted by Hekki on October 24, 2008 - 11:29am.

Can I float another theory/variation? Reminds me of a book I read about an anorexic woman in rehab. She described her mother as being very beautiful and glamorous and a perfectionist. That seemed to be another thing - trying to be perfect to please her mother.
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True and often times 'perfectionist' mothers have eating disorders of their own. There was a study [can't remember the source and I'm sure it can be googled] that women with eating disorders often times pass it down to their daughters.

PSL, AGREED. The scale can become obsessive and stupid. You can't judge your body fat by weight anyhow so a scale is pretty much a joke.

Submitted by parissucksliterally on October 24, 2008 - 11:29am.

"nodding head"

my Dr. ORDERED me to get rid of my scale.
If my size tens fit, I know I'm good.
(I'm almost five foot eight, btw, so that's thin)

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"I'm pretty sure I asked you to pick up some Pecan Sandies."

what happened to donatella versace's "face"?

I think JLo looks pretty good. She is annoying as hell...but looks good nonetheless.

I agree, Britney was never fat...she was just bigger than she was before she had kids and ppl weren't used to that...so what do they do when they aren't used to something, they freak out and call a person names. It is ridiculous and uncalled for, but it's human nature. Cheryl Burke is not fat either.

As much as it pains me to my core to say something nice about JLo, it is refreshing to see a fit and healthy woman out there who isn't a twig.

Maybe she's asking for help in some way (I read she'd been in treatment in the past). When I was really sick I covered up all the time as I did not want to draw attention to myself. I covered up my arms and legs with baggy clothes and layers. I tried to hide how severe it was, as do a lot of people with the problem. Yet, she's wearing short sleeves.

Juniper
you need to read the comments, I gave jlo props for NOT starving herself.

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"I'm pretty sure I asked you to pick up some Pecan Sandies."

Juniper,
Sorry...i do not see anyone on this thread attacking JLo's weight. In fact a few people have applauded her weight.
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True, Clarisse, JHO isn't really fat, she's just a talentless asshole. :-)

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I've tried to stay away from this thread because looking at this poor girl is painful but great stuff here Dlisters!!! Great stuff!!

Juniper,
Sorry...i do not see anyone on this thread attacking JLo's weight. In fact a few people have applauded her weight.

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Why do I read? Well...hmmm...I dunno...I guess I read for a lot of reasons and the main one is so I don't end up being a fuckin' waffle waitress.

In an era where we're telling people to 'be happy with who you are', society is still idolizing twig-shaped women. Allegra grew up in that environment, she was pretty much doomed thru no fault of her own.

Yesterday there was a post calling Cheryl Burke fat. She's not fat, she's just an annoying asshole, in my opinion. Britney was out of shape compared to her pre-baby days, but by no means fat. People confuse being thin with being 'in shape.' Being thin does a person no good when they have no muscle tone and the skin is just hanging off their bones.

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Submitted by Juniperjump on October 24, 2008 - 11:30am.

I dont see how anyone is blasting jlo for her body

all I see is a heartfelt discussion about eating disorders

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juniper, I don;t see MK making fun of J.Lo's body- just her stupid "sexy" faces.

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I Decided
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And yes, I agree with whoever said she is probably in treatment...but with this disease, it is a very slow process. I remember when Tracy Godl was so sick...she said it took her a very long time to look at food and be okay with it.
Hoepfully she is getting the help she needs.

I guess D-listed doesn't quite get the irony of on one hand, finding Allegra's anorexia shocking and horrifying and on the other, blasting J-Lo for her curves. Talk about being mindlessly complicit.

Submitted by Hekki on October 24, 2008 - 11:10am.

I'd love to hear from people here that have/had ED's. How much did your mother have to do with it?

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My relationship with my parents had a role in my ED. They weren't calling me fat, but my mom definitely has food issues (she's been on Weight Watchers since Jesus was in short pants and is still 50+ pounds overweight).

There was a lot of turmoil in my mom and dad's relationship and they couldn't really cope with it very well. Since they couldn't cope, they couldn't teach me to cope. To make a long story short, I desperately wanted them to notice my pain. Before I turned to food for comfort, I tried to hurt myself (cutting and burning) and neither worked. Food worked, so it stuck.

IMO, part of healing is realizing that our parents are just regular people who make mistakes and don't have all the answers. Think of all the idiots you know with kids. Those kids all think their parents are the smartest people on earth. Sorta scary.

Can I float another theory/variation? Reminds me of a book I read about an anorexic woman in rehab. She described her mother as being very beautiful and glamorous and a perfectionist. That seemed to be another thing - trying to be perfect to please her mother.

Allegra also reminds me of Chloe Lattanzi, Olivia Newton-John's daughter. I get the same vibe of the kid competing for attention from the glamour-puss mother who is so busy.

Sorry to drag this off track, but it's interesting - and important.

Dot, I step on a scale maybe twice a year. I hate numbers on the scale. The best advice I can give to anyone obsessed with their weight is THROW OUT THE SCALE.

Hekki, my ED didn't really start until I was 21 (until about 28), but all my issues with my parents were in my head.
It's all in the head......

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I Decided
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- Basement Baby "I Decided"
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Wow, I went to look at that last pic of her...and her hands ARE corpsy looking. They are like purple...what gives?
That poor girl- I know she has been sick for a while now, since begining of 07 I think and was in treatment at that time. But, Donatella can't keep her holed up in some cage forever. Sick or not, she is an adult and can go to a party if she choses. I love how all of you say Donatella shouldn't have let her out of the house, or wear that dress. Again, she is an adult and I'm sure can decide when and where she goes, and what she wears while she's there.
It's a shame...she is worse over $500 million dollars because of her uncle and that isn't enough to make her want to get better. See, money isn't a cure all...

Maybe Allegra is getting help. You don't have to be in a hospital all day, every day to get treatment for an eating disorder. And while it may not look like she's being helped, recovery is a slow process and it may take years for her to overcome this.

Submitted by parissucksliterally on October 24, 2008 - 11:14am.

Hekki, I know that my parents had some part in my ED. They had no respect for privacy, which made me have "secrets", and they always commented on how fat this one or that one was getting. Both my sister and I have had issues with food.

But that is just my experience- I can't speak for anyone else.
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PSL, you're onto something there. My mother was VERY controlling. She went through my room ALL THE TIME so I NEVER kept a diary at home. I'd keep one at school in my locker and then throw it away at the end of the school year. My mother hated my E-D because that was one thing she couldn't control no matter how many times she tried to force me to eat. My daughter [thank gwad] is a healthy young woman. I still have food issues but nothing like I did as a kid and teen. I am very health conscious and nit-picky about calories and fat but I don't hardly ever step on a scale any longer. If I feel healthy and fit into my clothes right that's good enough for me.

Donatella's daughter is SAYING something with her starvation and Ms. V. doesn't want to address it.

Deb: I agree with that. I'm sure being surrounded by all that was devastating. Especially if she's a sensitive person. And I IMAGINE, although I have no idea if it's true, that Allegra was competing with lots of other things and people for her mother's attention.

Aw, hell, I don't know. It's terribly sad. My heart goes out to her.

Seeing Allegra breaks my heart...she is a beautiful girl, and this illness is killing her.

As far as Donatella, Skeletor, and JHo, they look more grotesque than Allegra.

PSL: Thanks for sharing that. I'm seriously interested in this. I've heard that anorexia is partly about control. Makes total sense, as does your explanation.

I have two daughters and I'm scared that I'm going to screw them up somehow. I want them to be healthy mentally and physically. It's terrifying to have so much power to influence and mold a person.

I don't blame Donatella in the least, what I'm saying is this girl could be talked into treatment even if it took a court order, and yes, you can.

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Submitted by Hekki on October 24, 2008 - 11:10am.

I totally repect what you're saying. However, in Allegra's case, her mother is a major player in an industry that thinks nobody can be thin enough. There has to be some connection.

"This ain't rock n roll. This is genocide!"

dadada: WELL SAID!!!! :)

Allegra Versace is so painfully thin that it hurts seeing her. Poor girl.

The one thumbnail indicates that her hands are almost a blue-purple in colour. She obviously has problems with her circulation. Anorexia has the highest death rate of all the mental disorders but it is difficult to force an adult into treatment.

Hekki, I know that my parents had some part in my ED. They had no respect for privacy, which made me have "secrets", and they always commented on how fat this one or that one was getting. Both my sister and I have had issues with food.

But that is just my experience- I can't speak for anyone else.

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I Decided
That you are the him for me
- Basement Baby "I Decided"
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That poor girl!

"Come, Watson! There's fuckery afoot!."

ew, ew, ew and eeeeeeeeeeeeeew.

(the longest ew is dedicated to jlo)

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Everyone is blaming Donatella, but it's more complicated than that.

Donatella may have had something to do with her daughter's illness, but we can't say it's her FAULT that Allegra is anorexic.

I'd love to hear from people here that have/had ED's. How much did your mother have to do with it?

What's REALLY scary is that nowadays they have websites, forums & chatrooms where anorexics can go and help prop each other up, talk about their issues and encourage each other to not eat. Technology is a double-edged sword.

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Am I getting old or is the supermarket playing great music?

Fucking HELL, that stick arm is disgusting.

Ummm, can you get any thinner? I've never seen arms that thin. There is obviously a major malfunction if you are getting that thin. Unless you have a specific medical disorder such as cancer,etc., that is causing you to be so underweight, you shouldn't look like that.

Submitted by DeeDee on October 24, 2008 - 11:04am.
Hahahaha Deb! Donatella's anus lips are in dire need of Preparation H.

LOL! She probably used the Prep H for the bags under her eyes.

"This ain't rock n roll. This is genocide!"

My first thought is how my heart breaks for her, and yes Donatella. She probably is still in therapy, but is in denial. Anorexia is a sneaky, mentally dibillatating, and physically exhausting disease. she will be in and out of treatment for years to come if her heart can stand it. I'm sure Donatella is crushed by the appearance and her daughter's health. Allegra also is obviously suffering from body dis-morphia and probably thinks she looks fat in that dress, yes fat! She is also an adult and cannot be monitored 24/7, unless she is committed to a hospital that specializes in treatment for anorexia. You cannot force feed an anorexic. It made me so sick when Entertainment Tonight tried to save those twins and giving them makeovers, and actually tried making them celebrities for a short time. That's entertainment?? I no longer watch that program. It is very painful to see your child suffering, and it's out of your hands, one wrong word could cause a setback, Donatella needs therapy too.She probably has a lot of guilt in her, and she must have felt that having her daughter attend this event would somehow make her feel better.I do wonder with her celebrity status, couldn't she reach out to other famous recovered anorexics for some comfort, advise and strength. Just my 2 cents worth.

Submitted by nsaustin on October 24, 2008 - 11:06am.

that is why Anorexia is an ILLNESS. They CAN'T see how skinny they are.

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I Decided
That you are the him for me
- Basement Baby "I Decided"
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J-Ho probably took her home for a threesome with Skeletor. Hope J wasn't left out.
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J-Ho probably has dildos with more girth than Skeletor and Allegra.

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SO GROSS!! How can these anorexic girls look in the mirror and actually think they look good?? Or even more bizarre, think they look fat? It makes me sick just looking at her scrawny arms-- good Lord, Donatella, HELP YOUR DAUGHTER, YOU BRAINLESS TWIT!! Stop pumping your face with fillers and help your daughter!! What a baffling disease!