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OMG. This is just... Horrible. And I thought the Rupert posts yesterday made me feel bad.

MK, I like that you write about stuff other than celebrity gossip, but maybe you should lay off the animal stories for a bit? IDK how much I can take...

Submitted by The Audrey on October 3, 2008 - 2:03pm.
. Other family members have tried to warn the parents of the danger that he poses to others and have encouraged them to get help for the child, to no avail. The family is no longer allowed at many of the other family members' homes. What's worse is that the boy just started kindergarten and has since been penalized for a violent outburst towards a classmate. The other boy's parents are now pursuing legal action against said child. It's a really sad, intense situation.
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Sorry to be so blunt, but why the hell aren't you or concerned family members calling children and young persons or whatever you title it over there and why don't you keep calling until something is done?

Submitted by kiwikim on October 3, 2008 - 2:25pm.

Well, let me rephrase it... most (if not all) sociopaths (NOT psychopaths) are born, not made. There are many, many people who have been horribly abused by their parents who grow up and manage not to kill people. Likewise, there are many kids (like the one Audrey was talking about) who grow up in a fairly stable household and begin demonstrating sociopathic tendencies at age 4 or 5.

Death penalty please. I'm sorry but society can't afford to have this kid grow up into something much worse than he already is.

No one ever gets "better" from something like this. "Oh yeah...when I was 7 I did some dumb stuff....broke into a zoo and killed a few dozen animals by bashing their skulls in. But I'm different now..I was stupid back then". Yeah right, time to die.

Well, actually just found out this child was with guardians, not parents. Parents are psychopathic losers themselves. Guardians are some bullshit people, but boy was placed with them as they were aboriginal and Australia strangling under its political correctness trying to place aboriginal children with aboriginals because as we all know you just need to be with people of your own race, not good parents.

To be fair, he is only half aboriginal, but has grown up in the aboriginal community.

Submitted by M.E. on October 3, 2008 - 2:12pm.
Audry - that is horrible. And sad. I can't believe his parents won't open thier eyes.

I hate to say this, but his first victim sounds like it may be his sister.

Submitted by aquarius on October 3, 2008 - 2:18pm.
Submitted by The Audrey on October 3, 2008 - 2:03pm.

That is a tough and scary situation. I can't imagine being a parent of a child like that... I suppose I might be in denial, too. What do you do with an evil child? At least his 'tendencies' are being brought to the attention of others outside the family, so that he might be forced to get help even if his parents remain in denial. So sad, though... particularly for the younger sister. I agree with M.E., she may end up as the first victim.

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Oh, we have all thought of his sister being his first victim. I guess that it's a plus that the little girl still sleeps in the parents' bed? I mean, at least for the protection aspect. It's really sad, because she is the polar opposite of her brother-- incredibly sweet.

I think, as a parent, even if I completely wanted to block out the problem at hand, I would begin to take action once I saw my troubled son violently turning against his sibling. You would have to-- simply to protect your other child. You know? I just can't believe that ANYONE could be so blinded.

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Niko, earlier you said "Kids may be a little cruel at times but this is sociopathic." and then proceeded to blame the parents/environment... well, sociopathy is not something that is caused by one's parents or environment. That is why the signs are so clear and uniform -- bedwetting, starting fires, animal abuse -- and begin at such a young age. If sociopathy was caused by one's environment, then all serial killers and sociopaths would have had a substantially similar upbringing. OR, in the alternative, a household that produced one sociopath and two normal kids should have instead produced three sociopaths.

If childrens' behavior was always and directly tied to their environments, then all the kids produced out of one household would be exactly the same, right? In fact, that hardly ever happens. Where are the mothers? Back me up!

Submitted by aquarius on October 3, 2008 - 2:23pm.
Niko, earlier you said "Kids may be a little cruel at times but this is sociopathic." and then proceeded to blame the parents/environment... well, sociopathy is not something that is caused by one's parents or environment. ****
Not true. A person can be turned into a psychopath. I was listening to this talk yesterday about this kid whose Dad used to squeeze him between his legs and punch him in the face over and over again and tell him to "get mad". The kid had killed and was in San Quentin by 19. He's on death row. You can torture people to the point they have no empathy for anything.

Submitted by aquarius on October 3, 2008 - 2:08pm.
You've never known someone raised in a great household, with great parents, who turned out to be an utter piece of shit?
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By all accounts Dahlmer's parents never did anything to him. Were very good parents.
I don't know what the hell has happened to aboriginal parents. I mean, it's SAD when even aboriginal leaders are asking for thousands of aboriginal kids to be taken from their parents. I at least give them credit for not pretending they have any ability to take care of their children anymore.

That is the kind of person who turns into a serial killer. They start out with animals and then slowly move on to people. That is truly an EVIL child. Jeffrey Dahmer started out killing animals with absolutely no remorse and look where he ended up.

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Submitted by The Audrey on October 3, 2008 - 2:03pm.

That is a tough and scary situation. I can't imagine being a parent of a child like that... I suppose I might be in denial, too. What do you do with an evil child? At least his 'tendencies' are being brought to the attention of others outside the family, so that he might be forced to get help even if his parents remain in denial. So sad, though... particularly for the younger sister. I agree with M.E., she may end up as the first victim.

My 1st thought was they should feed this little shit to the croc, lmao. I know, shame on me right?!

That is one sick little motherfucker. His parents better move or go into hiding. One violent little kid, bet he'll be a killer when he grows up.

Audry - that is horrible. And sad. I can't believe his parents won't open thier eyes.

I hate to say this, but his first victim sounds like it may be his sister.

Submitted by Niko on October 3, 2008 - 1:58pm.

You've never known someone raised in a great household, with great parents, who turned out to be an utter piece of shit? Or someone raised by a drug-addicted single mom with an abusive stepdad who turned out to be a really good person? Environment plays a HUGE part in who we become, but it is by no means the only factor.

Example: My ex, mentioned below, tortured animals when he was younger. He is now an alcoholic who abuses women and is going to end up eventually killing one of them. He has 2 siblings. Both of them are happily married and turned out fine. Did his parents somehow raise him differently for him to be the way he is? I doubt it. I think a large part of his problem is innate.

That said, if the older brother tortured the crocodile a few years ago -- something NOT mentioned in the article -- then that's a bit different. It is obvious that that household has some severe problems. However, it doesn't mean that the kid might not have turned out the exact same way if he were raised by good parents. Sometimes it's the kid him/herself, sometimes it's the parents or the environment, but most of the time it's a combination of both.

This has got to be one of the best pro-abortion messages I have ever seen. Too bad he didn't happen upon a komodo dragon.

Submitted by Niko on October 3, 2008 - 1:58pm.
Aquarius@1'52

"Still, even if this kid was raised in the best of households, it doesn't preclude him turning out this way."

You can't be serious.

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Have you done any research on serial killers? Many of them did grow up in normal home, loving enviroments.

I know this is personal, but is sort of on-topic. I just feel the need to share it.

My cousin's son shows a morbid fascination in fire, hurting animals, and is a notorious bed-wetter. His parents are CLUELESS. The only real problem they find with the situation is that the whole bed-wetting issue is inconvenient for them, what with the whole changing the sheets in the middle of the night thing. What's sick is that the father is a former US Marine, and takes pride in that his five year old son shows an interest in killing (?&!). The mother is in complete denial, and when she does mention anything about it, she vehemently insists that it's "just a phase."

He also shows signs of violence against his younger sister, who is two. He's been found choking her on two separate occasions. And what do the parents do? NOTHING. They just think that they were playing roughly (double ?&!). Other family members have tried to warn the parents of the danger that he poses to others and have encouraged them to get help for the child, to no avail. The family is no longer allowed at many of the other family members' homes. What's worse is that the boy just started kindergarten and has since been penalized for a violent outburst towards a classmate. The other boy's parents are now pursuing legal action against said child. It's a really sad, intense situation.

Sorry for the novel, but just wanted to share.

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The mere fact that the zoo described his face as completely blank just makes it more clear that this poor kid is not going to be a productive member to society. He'll be a killer.

Aquarius@1'52

"Still, even if this kid was raised in the best of households, it doesn't preclude him turning out this way."

You can't be serious.

Things which matter most must never be at the mercy of things which matter least
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I think what gets me is the "expressionless" description by the zoo officials -- certainly a hallmark of sociopathy. He wasn't doing it for fun, or to see what the crocodile would do, or to impress his parents, or to get their attention -- he was subject to mental forces somewhat beyond his control.

There is really no good answer to a situation like this. Many sociopaths are unable to be cured of their urges, and will hurt countless people and animals until they're imprisoned or sentenced to death. This is one of those deals where maybe it would be a mercy to his family and everyone else if he just stepped out in front of a car one day...

This is why retroactive abortion should be legalized!

Wait?!? What's this about their older son torturing a croc prior to this?

Link please!

I am curious myself as to how he disappeared from his house for 35 minutes and his parents didn't notice, but other than that, he is a sociopath. He WILL continue to kill things. He needs therapy. NOW.

Submitted by kiwikim

I think animal abuse of this magnitude does require some degree of psychopathy or sociopathy... it's not as though he just tossed the animals into the croc pit to see if the croc would eat them (as a curious if mean-spirited child might do) -- he broke into the zoo, bludgeoned them to death, and THEN fed them to the croc. It is the parents' failing that he was unsupervised for this length of time, but even a child raised in the most horrible environment is not likely to wake up one morning and decide he wants to sneak out to go torture and kill some zoo animals. That sort of urge is, to some extent (I think) inherent, and while "bad raisin'" (as we say in Indiana) can be part of the problem, it doesn't usually make a 7-year-old kill a dozen zoo animals in 30 minutes.

ETA: Didn't know about the older son and the croc -- well, that does look like a failure on the parent's fault. Still, even if this kid was raised in the best of households, it doesn't preclude him turning out this way.

Submitted by LOVE CARROTTOP on October 3, 2008 - 12:30pm.
I would really like to hear what this little piece of trash's parents have to say.
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Nothing. They don't care. Their older son tortured the croc five years ago.

Too bad there was no kommodo dragon there to set things right.

Submitted by aquarius on October 3, 2008 - 1:26pm.

Oh, and not getting into the racial debate, but sociopaths come in all colors and ethnicities.
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But not all animal abuse ends with people being psychopaths. But animals are abused because parents aren't paying attention and the NT are out of control. This kind of thing is happening ALL the time, it's just the only article that made it onto the american radar. And that is a failure of the aboriginal community and the parents in that community. And yes, parents of many races fail. But I'm not being racist when I say it's ALMOST a COMPLETE failure in aboriginal communities.

The kid is a sociopath. Wish the little f&cker had fallen into the croc. area.

This is simply repulsive. I completely agree with the other posters that mentioned the future serial killer possibility. This kid's parents have raised a little boy to be a sociopath at age seven. Congratulations losers, you are the lowest form of filth imaginable.

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Few things get me more enraged than animal abuse - I would kill that little fucking monster and his brother as well.

Society wake up, you can't mollycoddle devil spawn like this hoping to turn them good.

And how did this evil little bastard get into the zoo all by himself alone at 7 yrs old when it was closed? Where the hell were his good for nothing parents? They should all be punished, fuck that.

What a delightful young man. They might as well just lock him up now cuz you know that's where he'll be when he gets older anyways. Actually, they should throw him into the crocodile cage and let it go to work. This boy will no doubt be a burden to society for years to come...

Apparantly the zoo has 30 min's of cctv footage of his spree. I wonder who watches the screens? As despicable as this boy is it's the parents and his social environment which need to be headchecked. Kids may be a little cruel at times but this is sociopathic. In all seriousness don't blame the child. He seems to have a hell of a home.

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Very distressing story.

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Dramaqueen I once saw a lady who talked about animal totems and energy. And she said something like people usually have 1 to 3 animal energy/totems around to help. And those totems change during the lifetime of what you need. Anyways at the time the alligator was one of mine. (If you believe that kind of stuff.) Though this might have changed through the years. It is interesting because when you think of animal totems you usually think of tigers, bears, wolves, etc. (Pretty animals)

Here are some websites about alligators/crocs as totems.

http://www.sayahda.com/cycle.htm

http://www.serioussilver.com/totemenergy/alligator.html

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ShiningKnight on October 1

This makes me really sad (understatement). I can't even think of animals being hurt or killed without crying... and reptiles are just as capable of feeling fear, pain, happiness, etc. as all the "cute cuddly" animals. It bothers me that a lot of people (not here, necessarily - haven't read past the first page of comments) don't give reptiles and amphibians the same respect they give to other animals. All animals deserve respect, and none of them deserve to be harmed or killed in such a manner. I really wish I hadn't even read the short article, it's going to make me sad all day.

Animal abuse at a young age is inextricably linked with serial killer/sociopathic tendencies. Does the boy like to start fires? Does he wet the bed? If so, best to lock him away now. One of my exes used to "joke" about drowning cats, etc. -- it wasn't until after I had dumped him for his repeated abusive behavior that I found out from a mutual friend that he wasn't kidding. He abused and killed animals when he was young, and grew up to abuse people. I'm not sure if any psychiatric treatment can reverse this process -- I believe some people are simply born "wrong". And anyone who would harm an animal that is too small or slow to adequately defend itself is the worst type of human imaginable. Truly revolting.

Oh, and not getting into the racial debate, but sociopaths come in all colors and ethnicities.

most serial killer start by killing animals, this kids needs professional help before he changes from killing small animal to killing small humans and it does not matter if you are white,black,brown or red Crazy knows no race.

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There's way too many comments to go back and read them all, but has this turned into a racist rant thread? If so, I'm outtie...

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I dunno, but I do know that I'm askeered of your avvie! lol
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Submitted by LOVE CARROTTOP on October 3, 2008 - 1:05pm.
What in the fuck is going on in here...?

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I dunno, but I do know that I'm askeered of your avvie! lol

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Can anyone say: future serial killer?

And where the hell were his parents? They just didn't happen to notice that their 7 year old was missing for 35 minutes?

What in the fuck is going on in here...?

Submitted by kiwikim on October 3, 2008 - 12:42pm.

Nothing. They don't care. They're older son tortured the croc five years ago.
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Feed the parents to the crocs. For crying out loud.

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Submitted by But.Seriously.Folks on October 3, 2008 - 12:49pm.

Anywho, I'm off to donate to the campaign of that "half breed" Barack Hussein Obama, future leader of the free world. Choke on it.
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And by the way, will you be donating some of your worthless American dollars idiot? Let me lend you a few of mine. Ours are actually worth something.
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Can I bomb your house? I think it's in the best interests of Australia.
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I shouldn't breed? You, who doesn't apparently know the difference between australia and nz? I know you're schools are bad and you're too broke to spend any money on them, but maybe you could pull out a damned map before you start hurling the insults.

nevermind...this story is too sad, ima go hug myself in the corner

Crocs/gaters scare and fascinate me. First where were the parents and second where was the security for the zoo? Anyways I feel the family should be forced to move 60 miles from any zoo. Pay for all damages and loss of life. And the child with the parents needs to attend biweekly intense therapy sessions for 2 years. And if they fail to do any of these things then the parents should go to jail. JMHO

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ShiningKnight on October 1

Submitted by But.Seriously.Folks on October 3, 2008 - 12:51pm.
kiwikim -

Can I bomb your house? I think it's in the best interests of Australia. You cannot be redeemed. You cannot be helped. You shouldn't breed.

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Sure why the fuck not. Your country has bombed everything else.

Submitted by But.Seriously.Folks on October 3, 2008 - 12:49pm.

Anywho, I'm off to donate to the campaign of that "half breed" Barack Hussein Obama, future leader of the free world. Choke on it.
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I hope your PC mind is alleviated of all the guilt no doubt caused from the lynchings the oh so wonderful americans carried out on blacks and I hope voting for a half breed president cancels out the guilt you should feel about the fact that Obama is happy for blacks to have civil rights and gays to have none.
No. You're not a hypocrite at all.

My hand and his face would have a field day...guess that's why I am not a parent yet, but seriously that kid needs a psychological evaluation badly.