Helen Mirren Talks About Date Rape
Time to put our "uncomfortable" caps on and hold hands! Helen Mirren is talking about date rape.
In the new issue of GQ Magazine (via Telegraph), Helen admits that she was date-raped a couple of times when she was younger. She said they never hit her, but she was locked in a room and forced to have sex. She never said "no," because she was too naive back then. Helen also never reported the incidents to the police. She said, "No, you couldn't do that in those days. It's such a tricky area, isn't it? Especially if there is no violence. I mean, look at Mike Tyson. I don't think he was a rapist." Mike Tyson thanks you for that comment, Helen.
Helen said that if a woman takes a dude to bed, gets naked, and then tells him "no" at the last second and he ignores her, it's rape. But she went on to say, "I don't think she can have that man into court under those circumstances. I guess it is one of the many subtle parts of the men/women relationship that has to be negotiated and worked out between them." Negotiate?! Like over milk and cookies?
Gulp. This talk about date rape makes my nails sweat. Someone pass me a glass of water. I just got an uncomfortable lump in my throat. In the meantime, someone show Helen a PSA on date rape. NO MEANS NO!
In the interview, Helen also talked about coke! Now that I can handle. She said she used to adore coke. She said, "I loved coke. I never did a lot, just a little bit at parties." She said she stopped doing it in the 80s when Klaus Barbie was found living off of a cocaine baron in South America. "I saw how my little sniff of cocaine at a party had an absolute direct route to this ... horrible man in South America."
Yes, Helen. Talk more about cocaine and less about date rape.
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Submitted by kate773 on September 1, 2008 - 6:07pm.
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Thank you. I get pissed when people talk about shit they know nothing about and Helen obviously knows jack shit. These kinds of comments "well, you should've chosen your men wiser" is precisely why most rape cases go unreported.
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1. Fortunately, I have never been raped.
2. Date rape is not only rape but also a betrayal of trust.
3. The victim is double-traumatized.
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I love her, but she says the oddest things sometimes.
Most date rape happens as a result of drugs or alcohol. I guess I was technically date-raped once, but I place the blame squarely on myself. I went home with a guy I met in a bar after getting totally drunk with him, smoked a fatty on his bed and got hot and heavy making out with him. I wanted to go home, but I was so wasted and I felt like I had given him all kinds of green lights until it came to actual sex. So I let him. He didn't force me or use violence, and I'm not sure I even put up much resistance. I never put myself in that position again.
Submitted by rotten_egg on September 1, 2008 - 6:08pm.
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Well, here's a little statistic for you:
84% of women are date raped by people they already know (i.e. friend, boyfriend, family member). http://www.smartersex.org/date_rape/facts_myths.asp
So this whole idea that a woman's being negligent in choosing the guy she's with isn't necessarily true - most women DO know these guys longer than a night and still get sexually assaulted.
I was date raped by a guy I'd been seeing off and on for 2 fucking years and that was one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. So because I let him kiss me and was going to let him spend the night at my place because he'd been drinking (I didn't want him driving drunk), I deserved to get date raped? That's what your post sounded like and that's what Helen's insane ramblings imply. And I say fuck that.
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"Don't ever let boy kiss you. You do, you can't stop. Then you have baby. You put baby in garbage can. Police find you, put you in jail, then you life over, better just kill yourself." - Daisy Tan
Why I love Mimi
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I have to say, I have been in a situation or two, when I thought I wanted to have sex, but once we started, I knew it was wrong. Just felt awful- so wrong I started to cry.....fortunately, they were both very nice guys and were willing to stop....
I don't know how I feel about her comments.
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her statement makes me want someone to shove a dick in her mouth to shut her up.
what?....well it's not like she's gonna say no
rape as a subtle part of the male/female relationship? I think not! No does mean no! Damn so many people in the running for dumb bitch awards, so little time.
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I think the only way to settle this is to get Helen naked and into bed with Mike Tyson and see what happens. For sociological and scientific purposes only.
Helen I love you but you should not talk about rape
Submitted by Tigerlilly on July 14, 2008 - 8:39pm.
HUG ME JESUS! I SAY, HUG ME JESUS!!!! Can I get an Amen from the DListed congregation...I say, can I GET AN AMEN FROM THE DLISTED CONGREGATION???? You know you ho's want a hug from Jesus
Submitted by Momus the Sarcastic on September 1, 2008 - 6:07pm.
There must have something in the "coke" she was doing to cause her to become totally delusional about date rape.
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OR she could be confusing hot sweaty good times with butch man dom perfection as an instance of "date rape"...catch'all later, gots someone to call.
Not to be insensitive, but A) I think Helen was drunk when she said this, and B) What the fuck are you doing naked in bed with someone if there is any, ANY chance you'll be claiming "date rape" later? These silly rants only discredit women who have to make legitimate claims of date rape, violence, or aggression against them.
fuck, maybe Helen didn't sniff ENOUGH good shit back in the day, a long, hearty bong hit or two, maybe a cup o' mareejooowana & chamomile tea would do her good.
Still think she's granma hotness, tho.
-"Submitted by QueenCharisma on September 1, 2008 - 10:01pm."
Um, nope. You assumed that yourself. But it's fucked when a woman let's a man get too far. No means no, of course. But why not be smart and pick the right guy instead?. This should basically reduce the amount of date rape victims, I think. I'm basing my opinion on Helen's comment.
I think sometimes women get date-raped without being naked or having any sort of sexual behaviour.
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There must have something in the "coke" she was doing to cause her to become totally delusional about date rape.
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Submitted by rotten_egg on September 1, 2008 - 5:59pm.
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So because a guy has "feelings" a woman should just lay there and let him rape her? It's the woman's fault? You must be snorting the same shit Helen is.
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I was thinking the exact same thing. You articulated better than me, though.
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. If you're nekkid in bed with a guy and have been giving the message that you want sex, of course you still have the right to say no - after all, it's possible that people change their mind at the last minute. It's all about making good choices before you get nekkid. Don't get into that situation with someone you hardly know - he could be a freakin' psycho and don't get shitfaced so that you have no control over what happens. This was your mother talking; Now go brush your teeth and get ready for bed. School starts tomorrow ;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyOCx6ZXfM&feature=related
How incredibly bizarre that she tells this personal story about being date-raped and then proceeds to defend Mike Tyson?! Maybe you don't do coke anymore, Helen, but you must be doing something else...
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I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.
If coke/marijuana/pickyourpartydrug were all legal BUT controlled substances (YES, it can be done -- if Vicodin is not illegal than NONE of these should be either) -- where was I? Oh yeah: if all this shit was legal that there direct route to Dr. Feelgood in Colombia wouldn't be quite so, now would it --- oooh HEY! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWxf5qkAIs
& P.S.: DUI should cover ANY fucking substance that impairs your driving -- that's the only thing that should matter = when someone else's shit hurts/kills people directly. Fuck all these bullshit drug laws made just to stomp on civil liberties.
& re the date rape issue: could only follow her reasoning up to where she talks about how hard it is to get out of doing the deed after a certain point. But why should WOMEN feel obligated to give it up anyway or bear the "responsibility"? I know plenty of guys who thought they wanted to fuck a chick then changed their minds or the mood was spoiled/she said some dumb ass shit about marriage/whatever. Don't see anyone screaming at the "TEASES"!
ugh! all this thinking on Labor Day's is just fucking WRONG.
*edited for C-O-L-O-M-B-I-A correctness.
Submitted by rotten_egg on September 1, 2008 - 5:59pm.
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So because a guy has "feelings" a woman should just lay there and let him rape her? It's the woman's fault? You must be snorting the same shit Helen is.
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"Don't ever let boy kiss you. You do, you can't stop. Then you have baby. You put baby in garbage can. Police find you, put you in jail, then you life over, better just kill yourself." - Daisy Tan
Why I love Mimi
http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2008/08/mariah-carey-is.html
Um.. I've never been date raped, but I sort of agree with her. When you are naked and lying on a bed and all of a sudden you feel not in the mood, a guy can get moody. Dudes have feelings too.
Also, we should have to be smarter when it comes to making out or having sex with men. A woman should have a clear view of the right time and the right man to have sex with. This might help to avoid picking up a guy who will end up being violent and a total douche. But alas, most women are too fast to jump into any guy.
And well, I've never done cocaine or any other "hard drug" but it's a fact that whenever you buy your little recreational drugs, you are making a drug lord richer and more poweful.
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-"I am not about to deal with unstable people" - HEART ANGELINA.
If your going to make a stereotypical joke about C-o-l-o-m-b-i-a at the very least spell it right.
Eek! I feel as though I need to put earmuffs on myself! Can't listen to this!
Um, what? WTF did she say? Helen, Helen, Helen....you were not using your inside voice when you said that and Im just guessing, but it ain't gonna go over well. Maybe give Wino a call and see if you can't score a little somethin somethin.....not cocaine of course. We can't forget about South America.
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Submitted by Mr. President on September 1, 2008 - 5:45pm.
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LMAO!
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"Don't ever let boy kiss you. You do, you can't stop. Then you have baby. You put baby in garbage can. Police find you, put you in jail, then you life over, better just kill yourself." - Daisy Tan
Why I love Mimi
http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2008/08/mariah-carey-is.html
Was she snorting a line when she gave this interview? Bitch is crazy. Hot, but crazy. And this is coming from someone who was date raped.
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"Don't ever let boy kiss you. You do, you can't stop. Then you have baby. You put baby in garbage can. Police find you, put you in jail, then you life over, better just kill yourself." - Daisy Tan
Why I love Mimi
http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2008/08/mariah-carey-is.html
Date rape? I didn't know they had lacrosse players in England.
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Helen needs some Palin Family Values. It's not called "date rape", it's called "trying to get knocked up with a gift from God".
What if I say 'no' but I give a little eyebrow lift and a half wink that means 'get really rough and hold me down because that's HOT'?
Nobody get pissed! Rape isn't a joke, blah, blah, blah. I'm not in the mood to be serious.
WTF I think I'm actually speechless.....
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Oh boy...
I miss the days when celebrities would make sex tapes, get caught doing drugs, falling outside of nightclubs, doing something interesting.