Thursday, July 3rd 2008
Christina Applegate's Boyfriend Found Dead
Christina Applegate's boyfriend of 2 years, Lee Grivas, was found dead in his apartment on July 1st. The National Enquirer reports that the 26-year-old died from an apparent heroin overdose. An official cause of death has not been issued, of course.
A source said that Christina is "absolutely devastated over the sudden loss." I'm sure that's an understatement.
TMZ confirms the death and claims a neighbor found him.
The two met in 2006 while Christina was doing "Sweet Charity" on Broadway and still married to Johnathon Schaech. Christina and Lee broke up several times, because of his drug problems and she "couldn't stand by and watch him ruin his life." Lee was a fisherman, photographer and skateboarder.
Damn, he was young. Sadness.
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And she broke up with Johnathon Schaech for this guy? Not as attractive, not her husband & on heroin. Nice *rolling eyes*
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People Suck!
It's funny the way the world works.
Christina Applegate was there when River Phoenix (Joaquin's brother) took a heroin OD when he was 23. He was having seizures on the sidewalk and she started to imitate him and make fun of it, right there. he died. right there. She later mocked his seizures again in a contemprary dance she created and performed at some dance festival.
and now her b/f is dead, in his 20's, of a heroin overdose.
not so funny now is it miss applegate?
He was not as hot as her husband.
Congrats on your 9 years!! thats great sista
xoxox
The war isn't working.
Submitted by DebFrmHell on July 5, 2008 - 3:55am.
Started with alcohol in 5th grade
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Deb, would you mind if I came over and kicked your mum in the vagina?
My dad gave me my first cigarette. The bastard.
Submitted by DebFrmHell on July 4, 2008 - 12:55pm.
GOT 9 YRS SOBER TODAY!
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I promised myself I would say no more but I must say:
CONGRATULATIONS! You must REALLY know the meaning of Independence Day! YAY!
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Submitted by angel_i on July 4, 2008 - 11:26am.
Submitted by patty cake on July 4, 2008 - 11:17am.
Thank you. Addict here!!! Started with alcohol in 5th grade. Struggled or just gave up for 38 yrs before getting sober.
PattyC, addicts come from the spectrum. young, old, mid class, rich poor, good childhood, bad childhood, etc.
quit pigeon holing based on your experience.
GOT 9 YRS SOBER TODAY!
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HAPPY FOURTH OF JUPITER!
All I have to add is that as cliche as it sounds even celebrities (well B celebrities in Applegate's case) do not have it any "better" than the rest of us. AS much as I love money, it certainly is not a guarantee for happiness in life.
Poor Christina, she doesn't have an enviable career, can't have kids, broken marriage, now a dead lover.... I hope she doesn't go crazy.
Submitted by patty cake on July 4, 2008 - 11:17am.
Kizzy grow the fuck up... moron...drugs kill people and people CHOOSE to do them..ask anyone who is SOBER or in a program..
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Except, of course, when they begin doing drugs before their brains are fully developed which is the case with good many addicts.
♥ ThreadKilla! Cheeto-Loving Redneck. Lean Like a Chola
GET WELL SOON was directed at Applegate because the alanon in the relationship is just as sick if not sicker than the addict. ALanon members go because they have a problem and its not the addict its THEM
xoxox
The war isn't working.
Kizzy grow the fuck up... moron...drugs kill people and people CHOOSE to do them..ask anyone who is SOBER or in a program..
maybe someday you will learn the hard way... I suggest doing some research or at least watch tv. DR DREW in his most elementary way will explain it to you.
xoxox
The war isn't working.
This ain't much of a celeb sighting, but, in about 1993, I waited next to CA while our cars were being brought around after an AIDS benefit/premiere for "Philadelphia." She looked cute as heck then and seemed very low-key and normal.
I was hoping someone mentioned the fact that Christine was involved with drugs with River Phoneix. She was there when he died of an overdose too.
I hope she wasn't using and just trying to help a guy she loves get off the stuff.
People die every day.
Wow. So much emotion & anger! Here's my $.02, for what it's worth (probably not even $.02!):
I'm sorry for the guy's family & friends. Death is never easy, regardless of the circumstances.
That said, they were both selfish fools. Everyone makes their own choices. She cheated on her husband & violated the binding contract that is marriage: "foresaking all others." Being divorced & having been cheated on, I find that pretty damned unforgivable. If you're not in love w/ your spouse any more, fine. It happens. But have the fucking backbone to tell them & not sneak around like a fucking child.
Anyone involved with drugs (& I'm including cigs & the wine I drink nightly) knows it's not good for them. These things are, in fact, poison to your body. We all make our own choices in life -- some of us choose to live clean lives, some of us choose to indulge in moderation, & some of us don't understand moderation & overindulge. Those choices affect those who love us most. Addiction is weakness, plain & simple. There are a lot of outlets that people can choose that don't involve illegal or life-threatening substances. People just need to care about themselves & those that love them enough to look for those outlets.
I have a heart, & it goes out to abused children, rape victims, victims of violence. Drug addicts & adulterers? Not so much. Karma's a bitch, & people who make stupid choices get theirs in the end.
Rant over. Feel free to tear me to shreds.
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Shocking.
Sad.
I recall a Blind Item allegedly about CA who was being treated for a nasty addiction to heroin while her show was on hiatus. It kind of explains why she left her hot hubby for a junkie if she WAS a junkie. It also explains why the relationship was rocky or "on again/off again" cuz if she was staying clean, she couldn't be involved with him. Just pure speculation, but I wouldn't doubt it.
Anywho, it's sad that he died so young, and if the BI is about CA, hope she stays sober. This is the type of thing that ironically sends the addict straight for the junk.
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Sorry, Roger, you are tiger now...
Poor Christina Applegate. Maybe Bud Bundy can comfort her.
Whatever you do: Don't Feed The Celebs
Skateboarder? OMG. Christina Applegate can do better than that. Oh well, she looks kind of aged in that pic for being 36.
Submitted by ZiggyStardust on July 4, 2008 - 7:31am.
Maudlin sentimentalism should not be equated to cogent insight.
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Hey but what the hell?
Whetever. We live in a world where people believe in nothing.
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Submitted by ZiggyStardust on July 4, 2008 - 7:31am.
We live in a culture of armchair psychology, and enabling philosophies. Addiction is a term that is greatly misunderstood in the general public, and it is increasingly being used to normalise and encourage self-destructive behaviour.
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Agreed.
♥ ThreadKilla! Cheeto-Loving Redneck. Lean Like a Chola
We live in a culture of armchair psychology, and enabling philosophies. Addiction is a term that is greatly misunderstood in the general public, and it is increasingly being used to normalise and encourage self-destructive behaviour.
Maudlin sentimentalism should not be equated to cogent insight.
A fisherman, a photographer and a Skateboarder????
They left out junkie. RIP poor guy.
I feel bad for the guy, but Christina should not have left Jonathon s. For him,a guy with problems like this. Karma can be harsh.if this happened here, brangelina are in for a major shitstorm. I'm sorry to be harsh, and it's Terrible that this happened, but I do believe everything happens for a reason,even something tragic like this.
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Submitted by letinstar on July 3, 2008 - 8:27pm.
christina kept coming back to a drug addict, but left the hot jonathan?
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I was thinking the same damn thing! Hothothot is the Jonathan.
This whore left Jonathan Scheach for this ooogly dude??? What the Fuckeroo kind of shyte is that??
OMG! Poor Christina. My condolences go out to her and her bf's family and friends. So so sad. :(
So sad and senseless. These overdose deaths are getting to ridiculous proportions, both in the celeb world and out. So sad, such a waste, such a tragedy.
So sad, RIP :(
Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before.
christina kept coming back to a drug addict, but left the hot jonathan?
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be honest...is my wig on straight?
He was FUG, she left Jon Scheach for a Heroin addict? Get a VD and HIV test girl...
Submitted by Migraineuse on July 3, 2008 - 9:15pm.
Submitted by Kizzy on July 4, 2008 - 3:10am
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No, you're projecting your experience, which is completely understandable. You're the one who put it out there that all addicts think they are deeper and more special than others, I never said such. Yes, there are plenty of deep and sensitive people who live regular lives without ever having any contact with drugs. But to say that all addicts think they're special or more sensitive, or deeper is a fallacious argument. It is common knowledge that people who grow up in abusive households, whether physical and emotional, or alcoholic and drug abusers do fall into 2 categories, those that follow the pattern, and those that totally reject it. You chose the latter, which was a good choice.(of course) But, since you do have experience watching people struggle with addiction, one would think you would have more compassion for them, and realize it's not easy for them, rather than withhold compassion. It's not just sheer self-indulgence, and having the experience with your siblings that you have, you above others should recognize that.
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"Shes like a catroach with nine lives and a disgusting shell"-LoLo on 6/24/08
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Submitted by Migraineuse on July 3, 2008 - 6:06pm.
But I am living proof that addicts aren't addicts because they're born into impossible, doomed circumstances.
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No, you are living proof that not ALL people born into impossible doomed circumstances become addicts.
You are generalizing your situation, when in fact, statistically you beat the odds.
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DAE:I think some of them are missing important parts of their brain.
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Submitted by Kizzy on July 4, 2008 - 3:10am.
You're still projecting. Sorry, but it's clear you're unwilling to listen to any experience that doesn't reflect what you've already decided is true. Think what you want, but I don't agree.
A lot of people think they're deep and sensitive, not just drug addicts, but emotionally immature people of all kinds. It's an adolescent thing. Some people don't grow out of it.
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Cuz I refuse to hear that Montag ho."
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Submitted by DawnieDawnDawn on July 3, 2008 - 7:36pm.
OK.....
As the soon-to-be-wife of an addict:
Sometimes addicts come from completely normal, loving, functional homes, but they are wired so that they are so raw and open to this world that it becomes impossible to navigate life without something to anesthetize the trip.
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Not impossible, evidently..he's found you, and other forms of support - I'm sure.
It's hard to find someone to care about you in this world. People are so quick to call you a loser or say that you're stupid or weak or useless every time you come up against some struggle. I mean - I see people grimacing at having to get around women with baby carriages or old men who are not sure where they should turn...kinda shit. That's just the very beginning...those kinds of things are tell-tale of the lack of brotherly love in the world, in general.
North American families are so dysfunctional and ripped apart (a result of the new Industrial Religion and war, IMO, but that's a whole 'nother story), communities barely exist - where teachers and police officers and store owners and neighbors are all on the same team - and so the basis of that understanding and caring is gone. How the hell are we even going to start looking elsewhere?
Drugs are readily available - much easier to get than a pat on the back or a hug. Or food - which is probably the most common and most highly ignored addiction today.
Verbal Diarreah. Lemme just say this one more thing.
None of this is new. Drugs, addiction, pedophilia, rape, exploitation, cheating, torture, slavery, is not new. It's all age old. We've dressed these thing up in all kinds of costumes over the centuries.
In this one it's all out in the open - so let's make the most of it.
♥ ThreadKilla! Cheeto-Loving Redneck. Lean Like a Chola
Submitted by Migraineuse on July 3, 2008 - 9:04pm.
Submitted by Kizzy on July 4, 2008 - 2:56am
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No mind-reading involved, just a little life experience. Children that grow up in abusive homes go either one way or the other, they embrace the lifestyle they have been raised in, and follow the same pattern, or they completely reject it out of hand. You are obviously one of those who completely rejected it, and broke the pattern as far as you are concerned. But just because your parents or your siblings felt they were "deeper" or "more special" than others doesn't mean all addicts fall into that category. We have no idea what demons were driving this guy, therefore we should not judge or dismiss them so lightly. Nobody said they should be indulged or given any sort of special treatment or attached any special quality to them except you. So what you are saying regarding that is all about you.
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"Shes like a catroach with nine lives and a disgusting shell"-LoLo on 6/24/08
♥♥ If you don't talk to your Cat about Catnip, who will? ♥♥
Submitted by C U Next Tuesday on July 4, 2008 - 3:04am.
As far as I'm concerned, rape/sexual abuse doesn't count as losing your virginity. Sort of blames the victim, doesn't it? Not to mention the fact that for the rest of your life, when anybody asked you about when you lost your virginity, you would have to tell them the rape story... I'd rather let them count the first CONSENTING sexual experience.
Though if a girl got pregnant as a result of sexual abuse, it would complicate things, I guess.
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"Jesus loves me this I know.
Cuz I refuse to hear that Montag ho."
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Submitted by Kizzy on July 4, 2008 - 2:56am.
Your mind-reading skills aren't working so well tonight.
I'm not looking for praise from anybody. My ego does just fine without constant stroking, thanks.
But I am living proof that addicts aren't addicts because they're born into impossible, doomed circumstances.
Sorry if you don't think I'm enabling -- I mean, compassionate enough. I already said I don't think addicts deserve to die. But I don't think they need coddling and indulgence either. They need a big boot to the ass. That's what my siblings got and that's why they're recovering now. Using "sensitivity" as an excuse for stewing in self-pity while other people try to smooth the way for an addict and make their life easier has not been terribly effective. At least not in my experience.
And I don't think it was just sibling rivalry. I only had real rivalry with one of my siblings and he's not the most fucked up one. The most fucked up one is actually my favorite brother and there is no competition between us at all.
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"Jesus loves me this I know.
Cuz I refuse to hear that Montag ho."
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Submitted by Migraineuse on July 3, 2008 - 8:15pm.
You don't "lose your virginity" at the age of 4. That was rape
His virginity was lost therefore...he didn't give it away did he?!
■"I want to fall in love like Amy,"says Nicole."I think Ive been in love before."
Winehouse lifts her head:"No,no,if you had, youd be dead because you werent together."
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■Even Stevie Wonder could get this Blind Item correct-Stock Broker
-"she couldn't stand by and watch him ruin his life."
Damn! Some people should quit acting like mother Theresa towards their junkie partners! just dump them and move on. Drug addicts not only drag themselves into the gutter, they drag their families and partners too. I had to learn that the hard way. It sucks, but it's better for your overall health. Christina Applegate should have dumped her junkie boyfriend long long ago. It sucks.
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Submitted by Migraineuse on July 3, 2008 - 8:44pm.
Submitted by Kizzy on July 4, 2008 - 2:32am.
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Actually, what you're really asking for here, is a big pat on the back for coming out of what you did different from the rest. Kudos to you for that. Bravo to you for being stronger than the rest. So sorry that there are lesser mortals that do not have that same font of inner strength that you do. One with such an iron will should have more compassion towards those that don't, and perhaps pity them, rather than scorn them.
I've never met an addict that thought they were "special" either before or after they became addicts, so I'm sorry your siblings gave you that trip, but isn't that a regular part of sibling rivalry with or without drugs? "Mom likes me best"?
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"Shes like a catroach with nine lives and a disgusting shell"-LoLo on 6/24/08
♥♥ If you don't talk to your Cat about Catnip, who will? ♥♥
Submitted by DawnieDawnDawn on July 4, 2008 - 2:36am.
I understand what you're saying, but that's just another way to for the addict to say "I'm more deep and special and sensitive than other people". And it's typical of narcissists to think so.
Not that I think all of them have NPD or anything, but narcissism exists to some degree in all of us and I have found it to be higher in people who think they are more sensitive than everybody else.
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"Jesus loves me this I know.
Cuz I refuse to hear that Montag ho."
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Sadness. I heart Christina Applegate.
Submitted by Kizzy on July 4, 2008 - 2:32am.
That hasn't been my experience.
I was born into a family with a lot of addiction, and have addicted siblings, though I had the SAME environment, DNA and experiences and have never been an addict myself. Yes, they do think they are deep and sensitive and special and that everybody else isn't and that's why they're so misunderstood. I've suffered in life just as much as they have. I just didn't choose to drown my sorrows in booze and drugs. I saw how drugs fuck people up and figured that I was fucked up enough already without them.
So I don't think that addicts are just victims of circumstances. I think there is some weakness of character going on there. There is a lack of realistic perspective - that pain and sorrow are a part of life, not something that CAN be suppressed for long even with chemical help.
Most of my family members with addictions finally beat them. But it's sad to realize how much the addictions took from their lives that they will never get back.
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"Jesus loves me this I know.
Cuz I refuse to hear that Montag ho."
-YesterdaysTrashQueen, 7/1/08
PSL, I never heard that one. I'm sure they're not as bad as I think, LOL!
P.S. your siggy is genius as usual!
Hey Aphid, I could see ssomeone being annoyed by Adam Duritz, but there is one song on that album that KILLS me. It is called "Anna Begins", and I swear I still get chills and a lump in my throat when I sing it.......*shivers*
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"He is going to get one of me but he won't let me get one. He doesn't like tattoos on women. He thinks I look pure."
- Paris Hilton
The only Counting Crows song I could stomach was that Mr. Jones song or whatever it's called. Otherwise that lead singer really bothered me for some reason.
Smack is whack! Kills people dead!
Tell Christina she can cry on my shoulder.......
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OK.....
As the soon-to-be-wife of an addict:
Sometimes addicts come from completely normal, loving, functional homes, but they are wired so that they are so raw and open to this world that it becomes impossible to navigate life without something to anesthetize the trip.
I am about to marry a recovering (8 years) alcoholic who never has any bad thing happen to him...so go figure......
Sometimes addictions just happen.
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"I don't understand this damned movie! I didn't see no Dracula. All I seen was two lesbians fisting a bear!" -Alltheprettyones
As they say over at the St. Louis Blues Society "...cause it's a mean old world."
People make bad choices when trying to deal. If the guy was in fact raped at the age of 4 and was raised in that cult, you'd better believe he had a lot to deal with. I may not agree, support or approve of his choices but I feel compassion for him for what he went through and I thank the universe I never had to go through it.
There but for the grace of God go I.
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