Mindy McCready Dead At The Age Of 37

Thank you jack. I'm calling tomorrow cause i haven't heard a thing yet and ask to try the concerta instead. It could be my age of diagnosis throwing a flag. Like I'd be generous and share any with anyone, they don't know me lol.

I find it sad that she killed the dog, but I wonder how some can be so outraged about it that it causes them to feel so much anger that they lose all sympathy for her. A human being. I know some people care about them as children but in some parts of the world they're lunch. Just saying. It seems silly to value an animals life over that of a human being, even if she was sick. Also to say that she would have killed her children along with the dog if they were there, isn't a totally fair assumption. Is it possible? Of course. But just because she killed an animal doesn't make her capable of killing her own children. I had a long battle with depression and alcoholism myself, and while I won't tell you all my life story, I contemplated suicide a number of times before and after the birth of my children. I was just always too chickenshit to follow through. I do not condone not do I excuse her actions. But to feel no sympathy for her would be inhumane of me. At my lowest point, I actually felt that my children would be better off without me. Some people have horrific experiences in life that coupled with mental illness, are impossible to overcome on their own. I don't know Mindy or her story completely, but I can imagine the despair and hopelessness she felt. Most people that are truly as sick as she had to have been do not realize their actions are selfish. They feel worthless so they don't feel that harming themselves is hurting anyone but them. It's not rational, but neither are they. It's hard to explain to another person who has never felt it what it is like to grow up with the sincere belief that no one has ever truly loved you, ever. I'm only speculating in Mindy's case, but I'm thinking that when her kids were taken from her(probably the only thing in her life she ever felt she did that was good), she hit her bottom. Once someone that sick is there there are only two places to go. I was fortune enough at mine to have a moment of clarity. I committed myself to get help and have been sober and in therapy ever since. The torture and insanity it took to get there just wouldn't make sense to someone that's never been there. Depression and substance abuse is a disease and if it's not treated it will kill me. So I suppose that's why I feel bad for her. I feel bad that she never had that clarity. She could never seem to find that peace in life. I don't expect this post to change anyone's opinion on her or other people with similar problems. I just thought I could offer a little personal insight. I don't believe in excusing a persons bad behavior because they are addicts or mentally ill. Quite the opposite. Only when you face your wrongs and begin to right them can you really start to heal. In this case though its too late and sadly she'll never have the chance to do so. I just think that if people can begin to look at how sick she must have been, they might not be as angry with her. I just can't understand how people can have more compassion for a dog than a human, but then again, I don't understand a lot of the reasons people do the things they do. I do know that I don't believe people are born bad, I believe life happens to them and they learn to be that way. Some unfortunately do terrible things and by trying to understand what made them that way, I get help learning to forgive them. I hope her children end up with someone who loves them and makes sure they understand that their mother was sick, and they really know that it had nothing to do with them. That's probably the only way they have a shot at not traveling down the same road. .................................................
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LeAnn Rimes was shacked up with an older country singer, boozing and drugging at age 15. This is her future!

Never heard of this woman, but how sad for those children to lose both parents that way.

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Submitted by Kandykane on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 8:34pm.

Addiction, coupled with mental illness, is almost a hopeless situation

Yes to your whole summation. I have seen this first hand and needless to say it's like leading a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

As far as Mindy goes...at this point she lost the kids, her husband and her decision to kill the dog was probably based on an irrational assumption that no one would be there to take care of him anyway so he'll have to go with me.

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Suzy, you are a brave soul. I have suffered from depression for years--ever since I was a teen. My grandmother and mother did too; my grandfather committed suicide. No one can know how it feels when you literally sit in a chair staring into space for three days, unable to move or function. Luckily I have had wonderful people in my life who have supported me and helped me. I am back on ADs after a long time off. I realized that if my heart was bad, I would take meds for that; if I had diabetes or kidney failure or COPD, I wouldn't hesitate. My brain is sick-- it's no different than any other part of my body that doesn't work right.

I am on Pristiq now, and I feel terrific.

And Whamo, ITA with you-- of course, I am upset about her dog, but I feel that she was so sick, she didn't know the difference between right and wrong anymore. I have pets, and if anybody hurt them, I would hurt THEM. They're my children. I grieve the loss of her pet. And not to minimize it, but at least she didn't go shoot up a school or a mall. She took the only route out that she saw left to her. I only hope she has put her demons to rest and is in a happier place with her puppeh friend and I hope that puppeh knows why she did what she did.

RIP Mindy. You had a hard life, girl. Hope the other side is better.

Submitted by jack-n-the-hat on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 2:40pm.
Submitted by Suzy Farkis on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:29pm.

jack-n-the-hat: You don't know how much that meant, thank you.
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Absolutely. Here's to good mental health for you in your future... *raises beer*

Your story kinda hit home with me... not sure if you've seen "Lethal Weapon" and how Mel Gibson wanted to die but never could seem to pull the trigger once the gun was in his mouth so he lived his life dangerously, not giving a shit if he lived or died... that was me for several years. Had a .09mil in my mouth on more than one occasion... Thank God where I was living at the time I had pictures all over the place of a beautiful little lady with her mother's bright, blue eyes and her daddy's mischievous smile... because she, my daughter, is the only reason I am still here today. And for once, I'm glad I am.

I'm sending lots of rainbows and daisies your way...

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You're a good man, Jack.

*gives Jack a hug and for once doesn't grab his ass this time*

Addiction, coupled with mental illness, is almost a hopeless situation. You want to help the person to the utmost of your ability but that person doesn't want or care about the help. Instead, you sit by and watch the self destruction, wishing you could do more, wishing you could take it away, make it all better. What do you do about somebody who is addicted to drugs, has a mental illness and ruins every single relationship they have? You can't force them to go to therapy, counseling or the doctor. If the mental illness is one that will respond to prescription meds, then that's the way to go but what to do if the person won't have any of it and cuts you out too just for suggesting it? The only hope that can be derived from a situation such as this is if the person actually WANTS the help and sticks to the plan and works for sobriety. Otherwise, it is all just a waste of time and breath.

Aphid, I'm sorry I didn't see your post earlier. It's so saddening to hear about anyone who has to grow up in an abusive household. I am so glad you were able to get away and find the help you needed. (((Hugs))) to you as well for being a survivor!

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I am glad the kids werent with her - or this dumb bitch would have sent them the way of the doggie! Fucken asshole!

"Let them all boil in their own hotdog juice." Deb 7/2012

I'm probably the only one who has no idea who she is. WHY DID SHE KILL THE DOG!?

Why the hell kill the puppy???? I was feeling really sorry for her until I just read that.Poor dog he/she didn't deserve that. Animals are the only things that give unconditional love.That dog was the one thing that loved her no matter what she did,how much she drank or what pills she took. Hearing this just made a tragedy even sadder. RIP Doggy

Totally agree with everyone complaining about the mental health system. It's horrendous.

E.g.: We're supposed to have our Middle evaluated for school. There are TONS of psychologists in our plan, but most don't work with children. The ones who do work with kids don't take insurance and only take cash. We just don't have $400/hr to spend that way. I'm lucky to have the electricity on and food in the fridge (thanks to my sister who brought us bags of groceries yesterday. When I told the school, they said "But this is YOUR CHILD. Don't you CARE about this?" *sigh* We're not one of the rich families at the school, which they never fail to rub in.

I dated a guy for a few years, who ended up committing suicide in 2009. His sister committed suicide less than 6 months after that, and their mother did the same a couple years ago. It absolutely runs in the family so I hope her boys get all the support they need.
I have very little investment in life right now and consider offing myself quite often, and I think when you have had such intimate experiences with suicide you can't throw shade and criticism like others who are unaffected.

@Suzy Farkis
You have touched so many people today Suzy. You helped so many people that have no understanding of severe depression and other mental illnesses to possibly be more empathetic. I am so glad you are better now.

Submitted by Allie Capone on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 4:30pm.

If you have a problem with the Adderall ask your doctor to switch you to Concerta. Concerta is a timed release pill that cannot be broken apart, crushed and snorted or shot up like Adderall. I had issues with BCBS paying for my Adderall and switched to Concerta, no problems at all. ADD/ADHD sucks. Hang in there...

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"I ain't a killer but don't push me, Revenge is like the sweetest joy next to gettin pussy" ~ Tupac Amaru Shakur

To add, I guess I can empathize so well because I too was an idiot when it came to men and was suicidal/depressed all my life. It took the birth of my son to realize I needed to get my shit together not to mess him up. I would do anything for my little boy. I'm sad to hear she couldn't do the same.

I like my men like I like my syrup---thick and rich!

Not a fan of hers or especially people who are one big fuck up after another and take no responsibility but I will say, there was always something about her that I really did feel sorry for and this news is a damn shame. I do agree that good thing her kids weren't there because yea, she probably would have killed them but now look where they are--foster care. Not the best situation for them either.

I was really sad to hear this very expected news. I wish her soul some peace.

I like my men like I like my syrup---thick and rich!

I, at the moment am blaming health insurance companies for denying mentally ill people medicine their DOCTOR says they NEED. Too expensive. You might sell it on the street. When you're mentally ill and reach out for help only to go get your medicine, and be told the insurance company rejects it, it socks you right in the gut, and knicks you down that ladder you were climbing. A lot of people won't appeal that because when you're sick, you're just like fuck this. I don't have the energy to fight it, and continue on unmedicated.

I was diagnosed ADHD last week, after battling what I thought was heavy depression. As if now I am fighting with BCBS to get my Adderall filled so I can get out of my fucking bed and get a job. I'm happy to have a husband that fights with me cos I am about to give up!

No doubt that she would have killed them.
As someone said last night, applause to CPS for doing their job.
Just sorry they didn't take the dog as well:(

Lucky the kids weren't there; she would have killed them too.

Our mental health system is in the crapper. I can say this because I was a RN in one. It is very sad people can't get the help they need.

As for Mindy, 15 & involved with a grown man? Where the hell were her parents? Clemons is a POS. I feel for her kids. I also feel bad for Mindy. When one feels your only option is holding a gun to your head to end it all is sad to me. I hope she is at peace now because she had no peace for her time on earth. I can't throw shade at her. I did not walk in her shoes.
As for her boyfriend-I hope she didn't kill him.

These young stars don't stand a chance these days.
RIP Doggy

I have devoted my entire adult life to Clinical Psychology. The mental health system is flawed to an alarming degree.

I admire the hell out of those of you who have shared your experiences, whether they be firsthand or that of someone close to you.
Suzy and Aphid, I especially appreciate your willingness to be so candid and personal.

Bless all of you.

Submitted by Suzy Farkis on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:29pm.

jack-n-the-hat: You don't know how much that meant, thank you.
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Absolutely. Here's to good mental health for you in your future... *raises beer*

Your story kinda hit home with me... not sure if you've seen "Lethal Weapon" and how Mel Gibson wanted to die but never could seem to pull the trigger once the gun was in his mouth so he lived his life dangerously, not giving a shit if he lived or died... that was me for several years. Had a .09mil in my mouth on more than one occasion... Thank God where I was living at the time I had pictures all over the place of a beautiful little lady with her mother's bright, blue eyes and her daddy's mischievous smile... because she, my daughter, is the only reason I am still here today. And for once, I'm glad I am.

I'm sending lots of rainbows and daisies your way...

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"I ain't a killer but don't push me, Revenge is like the sweetest joy next to gettin pussy" ~ Tupac Amaru Shakur

It is sad that she never got the real help that she needed. She kept going to Dr. Drew which isn't going to help anyone. It is a good thing her kids were taken away from her, there is a good chance she would have shot them too. She was in a bad head space.

Sorry if this has already been covered...why hasn't Roger C been prosecuted for rape/sexual abuse of a minor? Did he pay her off to not come after him?

(((Suzy Farkis))) - Thank you for that. Reading it gives some insight into the struggle a person must go through to do this. You sound like a strong person who has been through a lot. Be well Suzy. Btw, always enjoy your posts.

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Soooo sad!!! :(

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Suzy, you're not alone.

Crazyinjapan, you're right. I just tried a few 12 step meetings myself and, while it was nice to meet people who understand what addiction is like, I think you hit the nail on the head. If addiction truly is an illness, you don't just talk about it and leave it at that. You have to get to the root of the issues. It wasn't until I went to a psychologist, got properly diagnosed on my mental issues, and got on a proper medication that I was able to stop my addiction. People with mental illness tend to self-medicate because it's difficult to get help elsewhere. And while 12 step might help some people if they are able to keep up the lifestyle, I didn't find much help in it.

It's really great to see everyone sharing their stories. We have our moments around here, but the Dlisted crowd contains some of the most supportive people I've seen online. I don't express my appreciation enough.

I've been in that dark place too, and while I have never attempted (or really even considered) suicide, I know what it's like to have supportive people around me and not give two shits about it. When you're in that dark place, you can have everything and it won't matter. Addiction and mental illness can cancel everything out. Even family.

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Suzy, thank you for your story. When I had my breakdown last year, after a lifetime of being depressed, I actually had a plan in place to kill myself...I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want to be committed or have my daughter taken from me. (Because that made sense, right?)

I was supposed to go to a military school, and my daughter was going to my parents...I never planned.on making it to the school. For whatever reason, I stayed alive and ended up getting kicked out of my class.

Depression is hard to explain to even the experts...you are asked why you feel the way that you do, and most of the time, you don't know why. At least, that was my experience.

And lastly, in response to the comments about depressed/mentally ill people having children...anyone who thinks that my depression makes me less of a mother has no idea how hard I have worked, and how many times I have pulled myself back from that ledge BECAUSE of my children. Until you have walked in someone else's shoes, how can you judge, or even fully understand?

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And just so all you Jenaloonies and Brangeloonies know I would read JA's biography if I found it at the dollar store, too. (...) - Submitted by PrettyHateMachine on Thu, 12/27/2012 - 1:09am.

I'm not saying Dr. Drew is to blame for their deaths. Rehab on TV is wrong because a lot of that stuff is very deeply personal, and putting it on TV for the world to see is asking for problems, just like the people who have reality TV shows about their marriages, which often end in divorce. It's just not a good idea.

Also, it's time people starting acknowledging that 12-step programs are a huge failure. Eighty years, and they haven't changed it at all, even though science has evolved in its understanding of addiction. Even people in 12-step programs will tell you they don't work, although often they add that it's because the addict won't live the 12-step lifestyle. If you ask me, that's bullshit. AA is one "step" above useless. Can you imagine your doctor telling you that you have diabetes, giving you a pamphlet, sending you to a church basement, and then doing no follow-up whatsoever?

<3 SDR :)

Good to see you (and everyone else,of course)

I just don't know anything about MI so don't want to pretend like I know what I'm talking about.

I want Clemens to burn, though. Even if he was a Red Sox pitcher.
..and a good one.

He makes my team look bad and this year is a year for my damn teams to win. Ravens have already covered my football area. Red Sox bettah step up.

Submitted by Glambert on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 6:58am.
I had felt all sorts of bad for Mindy reading this story...until I read about the dog.

Now I only feel bad for the dog.
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And just so all you Jenaloonies and Brangeloonies know I would read JA's biography if I found it at the dollar store, too. (...) - Submitted by PrettyHateMachine on Thu, 12/27/2012 - 1:09am.

Thanks for sharing your story SuzyF. You are not alone. :)

Submitted by Suzy Farkis on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 10:27am
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I just wanted to join in with others and say thanks for that personal story as well Suzy, along with the fact it took courage to open up to us I think you gave great insight as to where Mindy's mindset might have been as well. Thanks for that Suz:)

Submitted by Jintess on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:41pm.
An aside, my favorite Mindy song is "Maybe he'll notice her now"

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REALLY?!?!?!!? FUCK THIS BITCH. Who shoots their dog?? Feel bad for her kids tho.

Ride the spiral to the end you may just go where no ones been. SPIRAL OUT

It seems as a society, we're not capable of addressing mental illness with proper treatment.Doctors just hand out prescriptions,most people can't afford to continue therapy, police get called for people acting out and are not trained properly, etc.,. It's a shitstorm.
Not a big fan of MmC, but genuinely felt bad for how damaged she was. This was inevitable, really.
Two last thoughts: Roger Clemens is a lying sack of shit , who will get in the HOF anyway
And- why did she shoot her dog?! Dammit!

An aside, my favorite Mindy song is "Maybe he'll notice her now"

I always loved it because she sounded the part. (sad,lonely) it also features Richie McDonald (Lonestar) it never was a hit, which was a shame, but by that time Mindy had seriously pissed off the President of her record label so they didn't put a lot of promotion into it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV2hHr56I3U

Submitted by Suzy Farkis on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 10:27am.

Thanks for posting that. My Dad committed suicide when I was younger and I've been forever angry at him for it, but your story gave me a glimpse as to what he could have been going through, so thank you for that.

And thanks for sharing your story, Suzy F. People like you talking honestly about your experiences with depression and pulling through the other side will help end the stigma that stops many from seeking help. Glad you're doing so much better now.

betseyfan2: You're welcome, and thank YOU.

jack-n-the-hat: You don't know how much that meant, thank you.

SANS FARDS: I'm so glad to hear you're ok now, too. We're the lucky ones.

Migraine Sally: I'm so sorry that you lost someone close to you this way. I can't tell you how choked up I am that you might have found some comfort in what I said. The not knowing must be the most difficult and heartbreaking part. I hope you're ok tomorrow. Lots of love to you.

Sadness. Sometimes the weight of many years of disappointments, addiction, failed recovery and depression just sits too heavily to bear. I hope she can now finally find some peace.

Hugs and good thoughts to you Suzy Farkis.

I just have to say that I am horrified she killed her dog. Mentally ill or not, that's unfathomable to me. And I am on meds for a lot of things; depression, high blood pressure, anxiety, sleep disorder, etc. I've been to some really dark places, and have had some crazy thoughts at times, but they never included my kids or animals. So there must be another level of sick that I just don't understand.

I have an aunt who is a mess. Has tried to commit suicide 3x. The last time, my parents were with her and she told them she just took a whole bottle of pills. They rushed her to emergency; she almost died, but pulled through. They tried to have her committed so she could receive help, but two doctors said they couldn't put her in a mental hospital, because when evaluated, they concluded she wasn't a harm to herself or anyone else. REALLY??? Something is flawed; either the tests, the doctors, something.

Also, many people with mental disorders are brilliant, and master manipulators. They will say/do whatever is needed to get themselves out of getting help, either because they don't want it, or don't believe they need it, or both.

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I don't think he is to blame per se, but exploiting people already on the edge...
I don't know. Personally I wouldn't be comfortable doing that.
Think about an embarrassing home video of you. Then imagine that video is out there for all to see on repeats.
I'm not sure even the most sane person would appreciate that (especially after the money is gone)

But yeah, I agree about the killing the boyfriend part. I have no doubt she did it. She was unstable and if you add alcohol and a shotgun (and him telling her he was leaving) to the mix..KAPANG.

I think MM is lying in that video. When she's answering about where the bullet was found she looks away, puts her hand up to her face - classic body language when lying. And what she's saying doesn't make sense: the dog was just walking around with a bullet in its mouth(?) Strange story.

Perhaps she took her own life because she knew she'd be shown within the next few days to have murdered her bf and lied about it? Or maybe she was genuinely grieving for him and couldn't take one more day? What a mess and a horror for all concerned. Those poor kids. Hard to have compassion for her after she shot the dog but as others have said, she could not have been thinking rationally.

I dunno what's going on but it will be a story in the the news for a long time to come I am sure.

Re: Dr. Drew: depression, relapse, ODs and suicides are, unfortunately, commonplace for addicts. He is not to blame for these things.

Submitted by crazyinjapan on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 10:46am.
What a tragic end to a tragic life. I feel so sorry for her sons. This confirms what I've thought about Mindy, that she was mentally ill. And Dr. Drew needs to SHUT DOWN celebrity rehab. Five cast members have died. Rehab on TV is just wrong. Wrong.
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I wonder if that's more of a cause (being a show that deals with people with serious mental issues) than an effect (the show negitively affecting people with mental issues) type thing.

People, in general, become addicts to self medicate some underlying mental issue and for many, fighting depression/anxiety/bi-polar will be a lifelong battle that many, unfortunately will undoubtly loose...

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Submitted by babybunny on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 10:16am.

I do not have kids and am grateful every day for this, life is too hard amd I suffer from depression and know I would just be terrified every day for them. After watching the movie We Need to talk about Kevin and thenhearingnthis news about MindyImget confirmation every day that kids are not the way to go in this life for me.....
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I'm with you. Grew up in a very abusive household, escaped at 17 but really struggled with depression and PTSD. Years later, right after my divorce after 10 years of marriage, had to go to the doctor for the flu and he could see I was struggling and ready to give up. He made me go to therapy, and she put me on anti-anxiety meds for the first time in my life. They literally saved my life. I know I would not be here if I hadn't gotten the help I needed. As it turns out, I couldn't bear children due to severe endometriosis. I considered it a blessing in disguise, as I would have recurring nightmares about having a baby and abusing it.

RIP Mindy, hope you find peace you didn't seem to have in life. Hope the kids make it out of this okay. :(

Submitted by crazyinjapan on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 10:46am.This reminds me of (I think it was) the movie Places From the Heart.

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I was thinking of that one too - It was Crimes of the Heart and the mother hung her cat along with herself. The daughters supposed she was afraid and wanted the one companion she loved along for the ride.

The youngest (I think) daughter also tried to commit suicide several times suggesting the "runs in the family" line of thought.

From the Pulitzer play by Beth Henley, same name.

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