Oscar Pistorius Allegedly Tried To Revive Reeva Steenkamp After Shooting Her
It was reported earlier that when the security guards from Oscar Pistorius' gated complex showed up to his house after he shot his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, they found him kneeling next to her body in the bathroom. But the South African newspaper Beeld (via NYDN and the Telegraph) says that during Oscar's hearing yesterday, prosecutors said that when the security guards showed up to his house, he was running down the stairs with Reeva in his arms and he was trying to do CPR on her. Yeah, I think my brain just twisted all the way around while trying to picture Oscar running down the stairs while holding Reeva and trying to give her mouth-to-mouth at the same time.
The police aren't saying shit about this, because they're currently in the middle of an investigation. But a source close to the investigation is opening their mouth to Beeld. They said that the police believe Reeva was sitting on the toilet when Oscar shot bullets through the bathroom door. Neighbors called the police two hours before the shooting after they heard people arguing in Oscar's house. The police are also talking to Oscar's ex-girlfriend who made "vague" abuse allegations against him to a local newspaper.
And TMZ says Reeva was a domestic abuse advocate and the day she was murdered, she was supposed to talk to students at a local high school about how she got away from an abusive ex-boyfriend.
Now if you'll excuse me if I have try to find a way to untwist my brain.
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Pistorius's cricket bat was supposedly bloody and her head beat in. If true, there go all his "tragedy" defenses.
Submitted by CodeRed on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 2:04pm.
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Either my english is worse than I thought or I don't know, people never seem to understand what I'm trying to say.
There are few real facts, in fact the only by the SA police confirmed fact is that a woman died because of multiple shotwounds.
People still seem to think that this might have been an accident and if so, I can't understand why he didn't shoot himself as (for me in that situation)that would be the logical consequence.
I read a bit on the web about this case and the papers were full of "a source close to the investigation" blabla we know these "sources" and that's why I follow suit to not use all these "evidences" to trial him, but I really don't know what good explanation there can be for a woman being shot multiple times by accident.
It may turn out that she was indeed shot through the bathroom door, that her head has been smashed in with a cricket bat, that he called his friends afterwards and whatever, but for the only real fact alone there's no excuse. The only excuse would be that someone else did it and I highly doubt that someone else can march into a high security ward, shot a rather unknown person, while he stays alive, so for now I rule that scenario out.
Submitted by CodeRed on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 2:18pm. the only other things that can be uncovered and disclosed in this process, such as the cricket bat, is his level of violence. fucking grotesque piece of shit. I don't know what a gorgeous, successful and anti violence activist would have anything to do with this ugly, inconsiderate handicap. 26 too, he looks closer to 46.
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Agreed on the general sentiment but why the fuck call him a "handicap"?. Seriously fuck off.. And dya think she knew he was violent? She found that out the hard way.. So much stupidity in one post *golf clap*.
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:02pm.
Why couldn't he have killed BloHan or Kris Jenner?
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Because it would not be the Christian thing to do.
I'm pretty sure that all the answers lie in the world of Faye Resnick....
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Submitted by Meatblocks on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:47pm.
ihop vs denny's ... that is a completely valid argument
Unfortunately where i live there is no Dennys. I'll hit it for lunch if traveling to another state though!
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the only other things that can be uncovered and disclosed in this process, such as the cricket bat, is his level of violence. fucking grotesque piece of shit. I don't know what a gorgeous, successful and anti violence activist would have anything to do with this ugly, inconsiderate handicap. 26 too, he looks closer to 46.
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Submitted by Meatblocks on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:07pm.
he also busied & consoled himself by calling friends AND family first (w/out calling for emergency services) and they arrived 10 minutes AFTER he called (his family) -still no emergency services called ...
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that Tomahawk is why he didn't off himself. Extremely egocentric, narcissistic psychopath who MURDERED his girlfriend. No question about it. I cannot feel any pity or compassion for him or even acknowledge whatever else he had going in life. I do not understand how others can after what went down.
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Submitted by jelliebean on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 1:18pm.
No way, I love Denny's!
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me too, but if it's breakfast (and i have $$), i gotta go with ihop (those syrups! + boysenberry & blueberry!).
denny's rules by noon to night. fresh breakfast food to mediocre (but always predictable mostly frozen) diner dinner fare on a budget, 24/7 (just about).
OT/yes, this does sorta have the feel of the oj effect, where people are so blindsided by the "heroics" (he's just an athlete) of an individual that they are just about willing to abandon the court of common sense -especially in the face of something so heinous.
w/no offense to dog, of course, but she kinda says it when she admits it's hard to give up the previous adulation she's given him.
it also calls into question what someone said the other day -about our use of the word "hero".
this dude was no hero, even if his acts inspired others -that was never his intent, his intent was always for himself, others benefitted as a by product.
same for oj.
it's part of why i like this site/dlisted. it's a place where we can take the superficially overinflated down a notch or two by focusing on the flaws. dleveler.
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No way, I love Denny's! We were on a working vacation in Monterey, and went to some expensive hotel restaurants. The service was terrible, even with no one in the place the servers couldn't be bothered. They actually delivered a steak to on person in our party at the end of the meal, after the check. (He had ordered with the rest of us and they didn't serve him til the end or say anything.) So we gave up and went to Denny's, they have a great breakfast, now more healthy choices, and very reasonable prices. But the best part was the service, so friendly when we asked for extra stuff, kept refilling the coffee without having to be asked, it was great.
OT - If you are not familiar with the OJ Simpson case, it has many similarities to this one. OJ was a very very charming person and a beloved hero in my hometown. But he is a cold blooded psychopath who butchered two people.
'roid rage, anyone?
Submitted by Meatblocks on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:32pm.
Submitted by sushi on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:13pm.
Submitted by Meatblocks on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:07pm.
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Oh that's right. Makes you wonder if he called them in an attempt to figure out how he could claim this was an accident.
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oh yeah, no doubt he was in a panic mode w/the reality setting in that he had just ruined his life (nevermind hers).
he was in total damage control, hustling her body to the entry way and calling all sorts of players sympathetic to his needs (nevermind hers).
that sure as hell wasn't his blood on the bat, he was in fine physical shape afterwards.
the first shell casing was found in the bedroom, there was a pursuit that culminated inside and out of a bathroom door =beaten, shot, hunted down & finished off.
that poor woman, she had no chance. fuck.
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Exactly.
Not that crimes of passion are understandable, but there's a huge difference between shooting a person 1x and killing them and bludgeoning them and hunting them down shooting 4x. If all this is indeed true, what a sick fuck this guy is.
ihop vs denny's ... that is a completely valid argument
ihop charges too much, oj glass is tiny BUT they have the seductive syrups.
denny's is always good for price and free entertainment that usually results in purple haired teens getting thrown out.
ihop wins when the pockets are a bit fuller.
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I'm stumped. Obviously the fight had to be over going to IHOP.
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Submitted by sushi on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:13pm.
Submitted by Meatblocks on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:07pm.
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Oh that's right. Makes you wonder if he called them in an attempt to figure out how he could claim this was an accident.
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oh yeah, no doubt he was in a panic mode w/the reality setting in that he had just ruined his life (nevermind hers).
he was in total damage control, hustling her body to the entry way and calling all sorts of players sympathetic to his needs (nevermind hers).
that sure as hell wasn't his blood on the bat, he was in fine physical shape afterwards.
the first shell casing was found in the bedroom, there was a pursuit that culminated inside and out of a bathroom door =beaten, shot, hunted down & finished off.
that poor woman, she had no chance. fuck.
*peddles off in a mint '88 yugo*
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Submitted by Meatblocks on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:07pm.
he also busied & consoled himself by calling friends AND family first (w/out calling for emergency services) and they arrived 10 minutes AFTER he called (his family) -still no emergency services called ...
his family also tried to claim she was alive when they got there
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his friend said oscar called him at 3:55 saying he'd killed her (so, the friend knew she was dead before getting there)
*peddles off in a mint '88 yugo*
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Oh that's right. Makes you wonder if he called them in an attempt to figure out how he could claim this was an accident.
The Shawshank Amputation.
he also busied & consoled himself by calling friends AND family first (w/out calling for emergency services) and they arrived 10 minutes AFTER he called (his family) -still no emergency services called ...
his family also tried to claim she was alive when they got there
BUT ...
his friend said oscar called him at 3:55 saying he'd killed her (so, the friend knew she was dead before getting there)
*peddles off in a mint '88 yugo*
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 12:02pm.
Why couldn't he have killed BloHan or Kris Jenner?
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Well, we can all dream that some other pyscho will!
Why couldn't he have killed BloHan or Kris Jenner?
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Submitted by sushi on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 11:45am.
I guess I just don't want to believe someone who had accomplished so much in the face of such overwhelming odds and is a hero to millions, could do something like this.
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And I understand that.
I edited my last post to say that it is human nature to try to explain why someone would lose control and kill.
Crimes of passion have occurred since the beginning to time. I think it just catches people off guard when the murderer seems to have it all -- revered, wealthy, etc.
Submitted by sushi on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 11:45am.
I guess I just don't want to believe someone who had accomplished so much in the face of such overwhelming odds and is a hero to millions, could do something like this.
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Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 11:39am.
Sushi, a lot will come out and some will be true, some false. Emotional abuse is in some ways worse than physical, and neither one is ever, for any reason, okay. However, everything I'm hearing is that Pistorius was verbally abusive - not physical. And I'd like to know something. Who was on which side of the bathroom door when the shooting took place? The answer to that is critical. Also, how do we know she wasn't the one who was being physical here? Maybe she was throwing things at him? Maybe SHE had the gun and he got it away from her? It still doesn't excuse killing her, of course, but I want to hear the facts and not media hyperbole. He'll go to prison no matter what but if it really was a horrible accident then I hope that is proven. I'd like to know, though, how shooting someone FOUR times could be termed accidental in anyone's mind.
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I totally understand, but she was shot 4 times and killed. I think it's okay not to give him the benefit of the doubt at this case. I'm not sure how anyone could somehow try to paint the victim as provoking her murder. I'll give the benefit of doubt to the victim rather than him.
That said, I do get what you are trying to say -- lots of info dribbles out and who knows what is really accurate when it is unnamed sources and not the police. However, the last report I read the police spokesman was asked if the "domestic incidence" calls involved violence and she nodded yes.
I think it is human nature to look for a reason as to why someone snaps and does the unthinkable. But sometimes people are just plain evil and there is no explanation.
Sushi, a lot will come out and some will be true, some false. Emotional abuse is in some ways worse than physical, and neither one is ever, for any reason, okay. However, everything I'm hearing is that Pistorius was verbally abusive - not physical. And I'd like to know something. Who was on which side of the bathroom door when the shooting took place? The answer to that is critical. Also, how do we know she wasn't the one who was being physical here? Maybe she was throwing things at him? Maybe SHE had the gun and he got it away from her? It still doesn't excuse killing her, of course, but I want to hear the facts and not media hyperbole. He'll go to prison no matter what but if it really was a horrible accident then I hope that is proven. I'd like to know, though, how shooting someone FOUR times could be termed accidental in anyone's mind.
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And apparently, he may have crushed her skull. I think it's okay to "drum up the abuse" angle.
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 10:36am.
You guys are proving my point. The media is blowing up this so-called abuse but in reality, he slammed a door and a piece of the frame dropped off and hit a woman. Yeah, he was angry and he did the slam the door but he didn't slam it ON her and he didn't put a finger on her. But now everyone is screaming how he "got away with it" when the charges were dropped yet they were dropped because he didn't actually DO anything. Every time this guy ever raised his voice is now going to be touted in the media as abusive. If he ever did abuse someone, I'd be the first one to call him out as an asshole, but jumping on this stupid bandwagon is only going to muddy the waters and make it harder to sort out the truth.
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According to the reports dribbling out, there have been several "domestic disturbance" visits made by the police (including one on the night of her murder) as well as other at least verbally abusive cases.
There's a big difference between one isolated case and several cases that paint him as someone who lacks control and is abusive.
OJ was abusive before the double-homicide. Yet the abuse was swept under the rug because he was a famous athlete. Wouldn't surprise me at all if that was the same case with Pistorious.
Ewe,
Your mom's comment on spatulas was absolutely brilliantly funny. Tell her we love her!
Submitted by CodeRed on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 8:43am.
Submitted by Meatblocks on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 8:36am.
Submitted by CodeRed on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 8:33am.
I'm afraid this POS will walk. well, not literally.
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me thinks so too. :) Why, he's their hero and national celebrity. Look all he's overcome and still achieved.
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after reading the latest i think justice may have something in it's favor here -what&how the sa newspapers are reporting this AND that reeva herself was a national celebrity there.
his own country is completely frowning on him. it seems to be only his family whining (loudly) to the press that he's innocent.
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You guys are proving my point. The media is blowing up this so-called abuse but in reality, he slammed a door and a piece of the frame dropped off and hit a woman. Yeah, he was angry and he did the slam the door but he didn't slam it ON her and he didn't put a finger on her. But now everyone is screaming how he "got away with it" when the charges were dropped yet they were dropped because he didn't actually DO anything. Every time this guy ever raised his voice is now going to be touted in the media as abusive. If he ever did abuse someone, I'd be the first one to call him out as an asshole, but jumping on this stupid bandwagon is only going to muddy the waters and make it harder to sort out the truth.
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Submitted by lislop on Sat, 02/16/2013 - 7:44pm.
"I also think the defense and/ his PR team is leaking the info., to cast doubt. His family is also coming out very aggressively. I don't buy their spin. They raised a raging, overachieving, abusive criminal. His ex shouldn't have dropped the abuse charges against him."
And he is probably their meal ticket. I wonder how their standard of living was improved once he got the medals and endorsements. It all depends on him being able to race and to have a positive public opinion.
IMHO, of course.
Submitted by tomahawk on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 10:16am.
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 9:54am.
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Well, he's still alive, so obviously he didn't shoot himself - that guess was safe.
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Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 9:54am.
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Well, he's still alive, so obviously he didn't shoot himself - that guess was safe.
they're sayin that a bloodied cricket bat was found and that her head had also been crushed.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/17/oscar-pistorius-cricket-bat
http://www.citypress.co.za/news/exclusive-the-case-against-oscar
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Submitted by tomahawk on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 9:41am.
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 9:32am.
No denying he did it but I truly hope it turns out to be a horrible accident of some sort. He has a temper but I just don't believe he planned or even wanted to kill her.
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So you hope that he cleaned the machine gun (at 4 am) to explain the 4 shotwounds?
I just don't understand why he didn't immediately turned the gun on himself - I surely would've done so if I accidently killed the person I love as I would never forgive myself.
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I don't know what he did after she was shot and neither does anyone else. There is way too much misinformation flying around.
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Submitted by tomahawk on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 9:41am.
Ah, but you are (I assume) a decent human being. Anyone who guns down an unarmed person like that is clearly not.
He did it. It may have been a crime of passion (if it isn't, then he's too dumb to live!) and he may have just been trying to scare her (PRICK), but he definitely did it and ineptly tried to cover it up.
Unfortunately, I suspect he'll end up like Chris Brown, allowed to go free because of his celebrity. Then he'll let his prick flag fly because hey, he got away with a murder. He can do whatever he wants!
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Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 9:32am.
No denying he did it but I truly hope it turns out to be a horrible accident of some sort. He has a temper but I just don't believe he planned or even wanted to kill her.
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So you hope that he cleaned the machine gun (at 4 am) to explain the 4 shotwounds?
I just don't understand why he didn't immediately turned the gun on himself - I surely would've done so if I accidently killed the person I love as I would never forgive myself.
No denying he did it but I truly hope it turns out to be a horrible accident of some sort. He has a temper but I just don't believe he planned or even wanted to kill her.
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Submitted by CodeRed on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 8:33am.
I'm afraid this POS will walk. well, not literally.
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me thinks so too. :) Why, he's their hero and national celebrity. Look all he's overcome and still achieved.
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Submitted by CodeRed on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 8:33am.
I'm afraid this POS will walk. well, not literally.
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yep, no doubt he'll get sprung.
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what worries me most about this is the corrupt system in SA. See their current president Zuma. The man's been in and out of jail for planning ambushes on another city. He was accused of much more including rape, fraud, corruptoion, rackateering..... and always walked free and is still president.
the woman he raped was HIV positive too, and he didn't use a condom and stated he ''washed himself in the shower right after'' to avoid infection. So on top of his impressive résumé, he may have aids. Personal life, he has 6 wives (bought one for 10 cattle- that takes me into another century on its own) and about 25 kids. About gays he said one better never stand in front of him or he'd punch him out. During another controversy he was involved in, he and his followers cheerfully chanted a song called, ''Bring me my machine gun.'' before going to court. The list goes on.
check it out for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Zuma
I'm afraid this POS will walk. well, not literally.
ETA I have a good friend who was born there but his family moved to Canada when he was 7. He doesn't even acknowledge where he is from originally or was born and considers himself 100% Canadian (which he is). Says they're (in SA) incredibly racist for one, which is one of the reasons his family split. fyi he's black (like it matters; half black mix with another half black person to be specific). I can see many other reasons for leaving too.
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Submitted by winniwins on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 4:33am.
CodeRed- I was finding it rather funny that a legless man was sponsored by Nike.
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I can't see how anyone, after these allegations would keep sponsoring him, but Nike....they dropped L Armstrong. Tiger Woods, well, it's not a crime still. They LOVE controversy.
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CodeRed- I was finding it rather funny that a legless man was sponsored by Nike.
what Nike had to say!
When asked whether Nike was considering terminating Mr Pistorius' sponsorship deal, thought to be worth about $2m, a spokesman told the BBC: "We are continuing to monitor the situation closely. It is a police matter."
More like a publicity matter! although they did pull out all ads featuring him immediately, wow. no matter what the verdict this man is done. Keep it up Nike, ya hoodrats. Your line falls short on other levels.
Fun Fact: Nike's L are an Adidas medium. Think on it.
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Submitted by winniwins on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 1:47am.
KidL- he's sponsored by Nike? For why?
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Nike has always stood by controversial athletes (e.g Tiger Woods, L Armstrong etc.) But this one now is too much. they took down their advertising featuring him as/like they dropped L Armstrong too after he admitted to using drugs. Their image and publicity such athletes generate for them is what matter, until boundaries are crossed.
ETA unless they're just sticking to him in other respects, until the trial for publicity and sales. I believe they fully did drop him though.
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KidL- he's sponsored by Nike? For why?
I'm so sick of the media and their stupid games endorsing and mythologizing sport figures. OJ, the bike racing dude(can't remember his name) and this guy. All big fat frauds. He's got no legs, so what, he's got no conscience either. He's a dirty murderer and the media will milk this for all it's worth.
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What is her problem? She's just laying there...
Don't feel bad anymore about laughing my ass off at this dude for coming in last in the olympics...
Submitted by BernardProfitendieu on Sat, 02/16/2013 - 11:47pm.
his publicist is working overtime leaking made up fictions to make him look less guilty.
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ITA with you. His PR peeps did a good job hiding the past domestic abuse allegations. You cannot tell me that Nike and all his other sponsors didn't know about this or go over his background with a fine tooth comb.
I always thought the guy came across as a bit smug & arrogant in interviews. He probably is used to having his probs disappear.