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"You know that's because of the airbags today's cars have though, right? A passenger airbag can literally decapitate a child. And the booster is to properly position a kid in the seat so that the seat belt will actually do it's job, rather than strangle them. Back in the day, no airbag, no seat belt, no requirements."

Hmm. I really didn't think of it that way. In fact I didn't know it could get that bad with airbags and kids. Since most seat belts (at least the ones in the cars I've been in) all seem to be missing the belt that goes across the lap, would those perhaps fix some of the problem of the seat belt strangling if they were used in more cars?

I don't know how we ever survived. :P

Thanks for the heads-up.

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Submitted by artsy_fartsy on Thu, 11/29/2012 - 11:26am "...However, one thing I often laugh at is how older kids are supposed to be in booster seats until they reach age 8, sometimes up to age 12. That is ridiculous. Back in the day when you were too old for the baby car seat, like age 4, you were in the front seat in a regular seat belt from then on out.

You know that's because of the airbags today's cars have though, right? A passenger airbag can literally decapitate a child. And the booster is to properly position a kid in the seat so that the seat belt will actually do it's job, rather than strangle them. Back in the day, no airbag, no seat belt, no requirements.

My teenage stoner mother left me in the back of her truck on the tailgate, forgot, and drove off when I was a baby. I fell out and had a rock stuck in my head and she didn't even take me to the hospital. I only know this because current day stoner mother thinks this story is hilarious.

My school would not let's take my newbie on a bus in a caraway, but I did have my 6 month old In a shuttle in LA, now that's allowed and a lot more rissky!

Speaking of the Way Back Machine, apparently I used to roam the back seat like a free-range chicken. I know this because my father still laughs about the time I launched my 2 year old self from the back seat and grabbed the car keys... while we were on the freeway.

However, my only memories of my young sister in the back seat are of her completely restrained. That's because they loved her more.

No one ever complained when Giselle did this. I saw many pics of her getting in and out of a limo with a then infant with no baby seat.

School buses are designed to be completely different from cars. They restrain passengers based on compartmentalization, like eggs in a carton. Those tall, padded, weird-shaped seatbacks help hold passengers in place.

It seems weird since we're all indoctrinated over seatbelts, but school buses are quite safe, statistically. The size and bright yellow color makes them easy to spot, which helps avoid crashes. Given the number of miles school buses travel every day, the crash rate and injury rate is incredibly low. Of course, since serious bus crashes are rare, when one happens it is all over the news.

Oh how horrible for Mr. And Mrs. Grammer to have to live like that. Big celebrity parties and no baby sitter, chauffeured SUVs and no car seat. Fuck 'em both.

I love reading these stories though. I have one- back in jr. high my parents drove an old, beat-up Datsun. It was ugly as hell but cute in a way. It was a 60s model (don't remember the exact year) and it had no seat belts whatsoever. We drove everywhere in it, and I don't know what would have happened had we been pulled over. We never were and never got into any accidents. Of course this was in Oregon, where everyone drives nice (at least they used to) because everyone up there is stoned all the time. Ah I miss those days.

Down here in hillbilly country, everyone drives like they are NASCAR stars. I think that is why I am such a seat belt Nazi these days- never EVER leave it off. Too many people die here in accidents without them, and if you leave it off and you die, no life insurance payout. It just creates a bunch of trouble and it's not worth it.

However, one thing I often laugh at is how older kids are supposed to be in booster seats until they reach age 8, sometimes up to age 12. That is ridiculous. Back in the day when you were too old for the baby car seat, like age 4, you were in the front seat in a regular seat belt from then on out.

Time to visit the Way Back Machine...remember back in the day, when the station wagons had three rows and the two "pull up" seats in the hatchback area? How we used to crawl all over one another from middle back to third back to the pull up back and fight over who got to sit where?

Nowadays, kids have to be in car-seats/safety-seats until they weigh like 70 pounds.

I mean, I get it. But how do they think WE survived to become parents?

"Jesus Christ, people are idiots. Going to the Playboy Mansion is not a problem for an infant."

After all she is way too young to notice that her famewhoring parents took her to the Skanky House of Prostitution for her very first Halloween Partay. What's wrong with you people?? Have Faith - it is never too soon for her to start a career in Hollywood!

Actually, I strongly dislike Grammer and everyone he marries.

Submitted by karen on Thu, 11/29/2012 - 9:20am.

Oh yeah, I went there! What you gonna do 'bout it?!

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Men like him re-marrying to women half their age and starting new families are so totally ridiculous. Read my lips grandpa: SHE'S JUST AFTER YOUR MONEY AND THAT BABY SHE SO DESPERATELY WANTS IS THE WAY TO SECURE IT.

" Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer"..William S. Burroughs

nanners, HOW DARE YOU INSULT GARY BUSEY!!!!!

" Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer"..William S. Burroughs

off topic but i guarantee this marriage won't last even as long as the one with camille. he is a classic narcissist.

Christine the hoff, that is the saddest thing I've read. Poor kid. :(

Can't stand Grammer and the way his blood boils when they mention his ex makes me want to shout: CAMILLE CAMILLE CAMILLE, right to his face! lol

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@Redmond

Yep — I'm right with ya! I'd forgotten about the coke and the booze and the cigarettes and all that. Yuck.

Who'd want to go to that skanky house, anyway? I guess it might be fun to be able to say you'd been there, but it seems like it must be pretty unsanitary, to put it mildly.

I just grossed myself out.

So, I guess it's "boobs = OK for babies, a noisy, smoky environment full of old bodily fluids and STDs = not OK for babies."

Oh when I think of the shit we used to pull. My mom would carry as many kids as could humanly (but not safely) fit into her little compact to take us to school. Of course, just because we didn't die in the 70s and 80s doesn't mean plenty of other people were so lucky. Safer cars and safety precautions we have in place today are the reason the number of traffic fatalities has decreased over the years in this country.
I just see Kayte sitting their stupidly without being belted in and think of Diana. Didn't they determine that if she and Dodi had simply been wearing their seat belts, they would have survived that Paris crash?

My dad used to double park in SanFrancisco and leave my sister and I fighting like tigers in the car while he ran errands. She would kick the back of the front seat and smash me into the all-steel dash. How did we ever survive?

Lovely. They are probably the same kind of parents who brought three children (none over age 5) to see Skyfall a few weeks back. Everyone in the theater had to listen to a baby babbling constantly. It was pissing me off. They were eventually asked to leave. Baby or no, Skyfall is not an OK movie for young kids.

I'm not a parent and even I know: YOU DO NOT GET TO GO AND DO AS YOU PLEASE WHEN YOU HAVE A KID. PERIOD. If you want to go to the Playboy mansion, great. But get the kid a sitter. If you don't want to leave your kid for 5 seconds because you're nursing, guess what? YOUR ASS STAYS HOME. Oh, that bums you out? Too bad. Did you not realize a kid would take over your life when you got knocked up? No? Well now you know, so don't be a dumbass or expect everyone to just accept your kids anywhere where young kids shouldn't be.

Madly, a baby sleeping upstairs, or in the next room while there is a party going on is one thing. But strapped in the seat IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARTY where people are smoking, doing who knows what drugs, and loud music blaring IS NOT OKAY.

Your answer was pure shit.

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OMG, these childhood recountings of the peril our parents put us in are too funny! Jelliebean, the "drive zigzag" story totally sounds like some something we would've demanded of my dad, and I'm sure he'd happily oblige! Aphid - yo tambien!! My Mexican parents never car seated or belted us (but I'm prolly older than you). Ah hell, we all turned out okay!

@madly- gotcha! I think we're in agreeance (is that a word?), my whole thing was just with the baby being outside at midnight in the middle of a huge drug and alcohol fueled party, I have no issue with the playboy mansion or the noise, just the fact that babies don't mix well will booze and cocaine.

Submitted by christine the hoff on Wed, 11/28/2012 - 11:26pm.
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how tragic. A similar incident happened here a day or two ago when the boyfriend of the mother shook the 3 month old so hard, the baby had to be taken to the hospital for breathing problems. Now they fear he won't make it.

They have the video on TMZ. Kelsey and Kayte are in no rush. They seem to be enjoying having their picture taken very much, even leaving Kayte's door open while the back is being loaded...well, with baby in her lap she had to wait for Kelsey to shut it for her as he moseys about. Oh, and it's obvious she doesn't wear a seat belt herself.

Submitted by PrettyHateMachine on Thu, 11/29/2012 - 12:19am.
Submitted by CodeRed on Thu, 11/29/2012 - 12:15am.

All of my pictures have been of Brigitte Bardot who I love and could only dream of looking like. Pamela Anderson is another one of my favorites. I seem to relate to women with big blonde hair who love animals. Lol
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*face palm* now that you mention it. :) She was a beauty icon, a goddess. Somehow, I always imagine it was you when you posted. Nice.

I love animals as well. :)))

@Redmond, much of the criticism I heard was more along the lines of "OMG a baby at the Playboy mansion!"

As far as the late hour, it's good to teach babies to sleep through party noise. Makes 'em less fussy sleepers later. The kid doesn't have any concept of what time it is, and sleeping through background noise is a good habit to learn as young as possible. Those parents who constantly shush everyone so their babies can sleep are setting their kids up for insomnia whenever the neighbors have a party, or when the kids grow up and move into a dorm, and so on.

(But I wouldn't want to be AT the party when someone brings a baby! Talk about a buzz kill.)

I'm not trying to be argumentative. Just trying to better explain my impression of and reaction to some of the comments I heard about this.

I do, however, think the whole serial marriage/divorce/have babies when you're in your late fifties/early sixties (for men) is rather pathetic. But that's another post for another day. :-)

Gotta come clean, during that first season of Frasier, whenever Kelsey wore the badminton shorts, he had me lactating all over my pants.... wooof! talk about tossing salad and scrambled egss.

Submitted by CodeRed on Thu, 11/29/2012 - 12:15am.

All of my pictures have been of Brigitte Bardot who I love and could only dream of looking like. Pamela Anderson is another one of my favorites. I seem to relate to women with big blonde hair who love animals. Lol

I really don't know why this would be new worthy or alarming. Many safety precautions have gone too far. Totally unrelated, but like with horseback riding. I remember as a kid we could gallop while on trails and it was tons of fun. Now, it's follow the guide in a straight line, no galloping, not even a trot, only a slooow walk, in case you fall and sue them. I quit, it's so boring. Even the horse is bored and starts eating leaves along the path every few feet. I only ride now when I'm outside of the country, cuz they're much cooler about ridiculous safety measures. In this case, it's absurd, she's holding the baby in her arms. I can see the reasoning but give the guys a break.

btw, PHM, is that you in the avies? I always imagined it was for some reason, although with the prior one, it might have been a young Pam Anderson, from the looks of it. Take it as a compliment.

Submitted by Abrowne229 on Wed, 11/28/2012 - 11:36pm.
Of course, my parents were drunks, but still.

LMFDO!

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Submitted by WinterOwl22 on Wed, 11/28/2012 - 10:04pm.

I have a cousin visiting from Mexico and she is pregnant. I drove her to Babies R' Us because she wanted to buy a few things (stuff in Mexico is 4 times more expensive). Well it turns out she just wanted to buy the seat and not the part that can be strapped with a seatbelt! Told her and she looked at me like I was crazy. Apparently, people in Mexico (not all, I know) tend to just put their babies in a seat and not strap it. SMGDH....
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I was just coming here to say, my Mexican parents NEVER strapped us in. Mom didn't wear a seat belt until she had to by law. Unfortunately, she was a horrific driver (shocker, right?), but fortunately, we got out of those few fender benders with just minor scrapes and bruises. Good times, good times...

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That's a very expensive chardonnay you're not drinking...

I knew this post would bring out the best car/ childhood memories. I remember those cars you could crawl into the trunk from the backseat. In fact many cars then you could just kick the back seat down and crawl out if you got locked in the trunk, which you did if you were playing a kidnap or hostage victim like we did with my brother.

@madly, actually it was photographed outside at midnight in the middle of a raging party. Its all over the internet.

MK! My Mom would let me sit in her lap and let me shift gears in her Z28! My Dad used to let me "drive" in his Semi also. I used to be on the CB talking to all the truckers and they always blew their horn for me. Love.

Jesus Christ, people are idiots. Going to the Playboy Mansion is not a problem for an infant. Do people think the baby's never seen a breast? Also, it's a mansion. They probably stuck it in a quiet room for a couple of hours while they socialized. Oh, the horror.

But OK, let's instill that unnatural fear/fascination/taboo with the human body as early as possible. Oooh, breasts! Booga-wooga!

I slack with the seatbelt quite a bit (actually got a nice ticket for not wearing one in Jan.), but my kids are Seatbelt Nazis. "MAMA, put your seatbelt on so we can be safe". I think they would go into panic mode if there were something wrong with their seatbelts....

When my oldest was 3 months old, we had to take him to the ER with some serious stomach virus. I have to admit, I didnt strap him in for that ride. All I could think off was him choking to death on his own puke.

When I was a kid my mom had a jeep Cherokee. We lived at the end of a long windy dirt driveway. My mom would stop when we got there and we would roll the windows all the way down and sit in the windows yelling and laughing the whole way. Pretty sure my mom never worried about us falling out. Also, my best friends mom had a Mercedes that you could crawl into the trunk from the backseat, which we frequently did. I remember never wearing the shoulder part of my seatbelt either, I would always put it behind me. Of course, my parents were drunks, but still.

Submitted by Esteem on Wed, 11/28/2012 - 11:19pm.

We have literally been crying on and off all day, this precious little soul... seriously, if this is the worst thing they ever do, then God bless them. there's such evil in the world, makes you question everything sometimes.

I'm with everyone who says he's lost his fucking mind. He didn't have much of a hold on it before; when Cheers & Frasier were on the air, he was forever in trouble with cocaine & booze, and he's spent his life running through women as well. The fuck foo is strong with this bozo.

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Submitted by christine the hoff on Wed, 11/28/2012 - 11:15pm.

Oh god, that's awful. It sounds like one of those stories that Mike posts from Dreamin' Demon.

I was watching Frasier on Netflix the other day and goddamn, that show was funny. Such a bunch of pretentious d-bags! lol.

meh, I can't snark on them too much. The kid's cute and they both look happy. Next time, use a carseat!

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Submitted by P.T.Bull on Tue, 09/25/2012 - 10:33pm.

"This bitch is crazier than a pillowcase full of clear-level scientologist possums."

Today is simply not a good day for me to comment on this, a woman who doesn't live to far from us is currently in jail for beating her three year old to death and dumping him in the garbage....
I know this is a bonehead move on their part, but sweet jesus christ, at least they look like they love the kid......

Kayte is not wearing a seat belt while sitting in a moving vehicle with the baby on her lap while drinking a hot beverage right over the baby's head. Hands down MOTHER OF THE YEAR award winner.

Submitted by REDMOND on Wed, 11/28/2012 - 10:42pm.

I think Kelsey Grammar has lost his fucking mind.
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There are a lot of people who were never strapped in as children. I temember how much fun it was to sit on Dad's lap and steer the van, taking sips of his can of Coors...ah, good times. Other kids had similar experiences, they won't be posting, because they're dead. Poor judgement kills kids every day, it only takes one time.

kelsey grammer is such a greasy smug wanker.

kayte should try to hold her daughter as well as she's holding that hot drink.

Nothing says hot party like taking your lactating wife and newborn to the Playboy Mansion. Maybe Kelsey was there for the articles?

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Hahaha, my dad let us drive sitting on his lap too. Then one time we got an old station wagon with the wide flat back seat area. We would lie down and yell for him to "drive zig zag" and he would drive fast on this old country road, criss crossing both driving lanes so we could roll from side to side, slamming into each other and the walls of the car. We all laughed hysterically. My neighbor down the road, on a farm drove the Buick down the hill every day to bring her dad lunch, I think she was 10 or 11 when she started. By the time we got to high school she was an excellent driver, slow and steady.