Here's Zoe Saldana As Nina Simone
When filmmaker Cynthia Mort announced that she was writing and directing a Nina Simone biopic, Nina Simone's own daughter, Simone, pretty much blew a fart at it, because the family was never asked to participate. The Nina Simone Estate didn't put their stamp of approval on Cynthia Mort's movie. Simone and The Nina Simone Estate made it clear that they would rather see a Nina Simone biopic made with LEGOS than see Cynthia Morton's Nina Simone biopic. Then when it was announced that Zoe Saldana was playing Nina Simone, Simone really rolled her eyes into a double side-eye. Simone told Ebony Magazine that when she thinks of actresses who should play her mom, she doesn't think of Zoe Saldana.
I love Zoe Saldana’s work. I’ve seen some of her movies more than once and really enjoy what she brings to the screen. As an actress I respect her process, but I also know that there are many actresses out there, known or not, who would be great as my mother. The one actress that I’ve had in my heart for a very long time, whose work I’m familiar with already, is Kimberly Elise. Many people have spoken to me about Viola. I love her look. I love her energy. Both of the actresses that I’ve mentioned are women of color, are women with beautiful, luscious lips and wide noses, and who know their craft. I also have no problem introducing someone we’ve never heard of before who can play my mother.
Simone said this back in August and now here's pictures of Zoe as Nina on the Los Angeles set of that mess of a movie this past Friday. Somebody should check on Simone, because she probably just side-eyed so hard that several vessels popped and she might need medical attention. Did they really need to put Zoe in black(er) face and throw a prosthetic nose on her? Even Zoe Saldana is making a face like she knows this was a bad idea. It's the same face I make when a trick I just met on Craigslist opens his apartment door and I realize the picture he sent me was taken 30 years ago. I should've gotten the hint when the picture was a scan of a Polaroid.


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Submitted by SANS FARDS on Mon, 10/29/2012 - 6:47pm.
I kind of feel for Zoe in this situation. She's presented with an opportunity that, if she acts the hell out of the part, could vault her into superstardom and net her an Oscar nomination
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The comment from Nina Simone's daughter is so ignorant. Submitted by MadgesVadge
( For your information, Cubans are not all white, most are mixed and/or black. Puerto RIcans, some are white some are black, most are mixed. Haitians are not all black, some are white, and Dominicans are not all mixed, some are white and some are black. Education goes a long way) Being LATINA does not refer to ones RACE
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Thank you! Discrimination is discrimination no matter what and that includes reverse discrimination. Let's judge her on her PERFORMANCE not on the difference in skin hue, like any other actor is- very well said.
Submitted by zsa-zsa on Thu, 11/01/2012 - 12:15pm.
( For your information, Cubans are not all white, most are mixed and/or black. Puerto RIcans, some are white some are black, most are mixed. Haitians are not all black, some are white, and Dominicans are not all mixed, some are white and some are black. Education goes a long way) Being LATINA does not refer to ones RACE
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The comment from Nina Simone's daughter is so ignorant. Saldana may not be black, but she can play the part. Reverse discrimination IS discrimination.
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She was on late night television and I heard her stating that she considers herself a black woman, this was years ago. Now that you clearly do not understand that one can be Latina AND BLACK, reveals the pure ignorance on the matter. Just sayin'
( For your information, Cubans are not all white, most are mixed and/or black. Puerto RIcans, some are white some are black, most are mixed. Haitians are not all black, some are white, and Dominicans are not all mixed, some are white and some are black. Education goes a long way) Being LATINA does not refer to ones RACE.
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“When I go to the D.R., the press in Santo Domingo always asks, “¿Qué te consideras, dominicana o americana?” (What do you consider yourself, Dominican or American?) I don’t understand it, and it’s the same people asking the same question. So I say, time and time again, “Yo soy una mujer negra.” (“I am a black woman.”) [They go,] “Oh, no, tú eres trigueñita.” (“Oh no, you are ‘dark skinned’”) I’m like, “No! Let’s get it straight, yo soy una mujer negra.” (“I am a black woman).”
@zsa zsa: harry belafonte looked/looks "almost white"? in what universe? zoe "claims her blackness"? she ALWAYS brings up her dominican latin roots--she's even been on the cover of "latina" magazine. get it together, honey, just sayin'.
Amazing how much a nose changes a face. I've never seen her in any movie so I can't judge her acting ability, but sometimes she looks too skinny and she doesn't have the type of face that can handle very low body fat.
Submitted by Bree on Tue, 10/30/2012 - 12:34am.
Bree, please credit this marvelous quote:
"Black women are not discriminating against you because you are a light-skinned woman. We are expressing our frustration at a racial hierarchy that renders us too unattractive even to represent ourselves. And if we’re being honest, you got this role, in part, because of the privilege you’ve been accorded as a light-skinned Afro-Latina.
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But this is inherant process in ALL MAJOR ACTING productions, this is not neurosurgery, or quantum physics, where one is selected & recognized purely for one's skills, this is ACTING. And there are many factors which go into the selection process depending on the production. It is a known fact that those with greater portfolios are apt to be given more chances than an unknown, unless of course, this is an INDIE film, and even then those are considered.
Zoe has embraced her blackness and she was BORN in the USA which makes her black. She hasn't tried to pass as a LATINA, she's embraced her african roots and considered herself as such. It's highly unfair for her to be on the receiving end of this vitriol. While you may easily perceive her to have light skinned privilege, perhaps she hasn't felt this way & perhaps she has found her road more difficult. Everyone criticized Halle Barre for being selected for Monster's Ball, when in fact this was a role that Angela Bassett was not even interested in!
All major acting productions engage in this type of casting, when was the last time an unknown ( white or black) was cast as lead role by major production. This is indeed reverse racism, because people, including her daughter, say she is not dark enough.
Anyway, just saying people give her a chance, and see how it turns out. When Harry Belafonte championed African American roles, and he was an extremely light skinned almost white looking man from the Caribbean, let's be honest, noone complained. Just saying give her a chance.
I'm not feeling that prosthetic nose. She looks like Humpty Hump from Digital Underground.
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Submitted by Bree on Tue, 10/30/2012 - 12:34am.
Bree, please credit this marvelous quote:
"Black women are not discriminating against you because you are a light-skinned woman. We are expressing our frustration at a racial hierarchy that renders us too unattractive even to represent ourselves. And if we’re being honest, you got this role, in part, because of the privilege you’ve been accorded as a light-skinned Afro-Latina.
That’s not to say I don’t think you’re a talented actress. You most certainly are. In fact, I think you could surprise us with your performance in the film. That doesn’t change the fact that you are contributing to the ongoing invisibility of women who cannot remove their deep brown complexions, broad noses, and kinky hair every day after work. This project is a testament to the unconscionable arrogance of white supremacy. By taking part, you’ve condoned that arrogance."
this says it so well! thank you.
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This "Zoe is a well known name" defense is stupid and tired! Stop using it. And NO the same nerdy group that bonered for her in Avitar isn't going to see a Nina Simoe biopic!! Are you effing kidding me? That's not an "important point" that's a dumb excuse! A sad one in fact. I don't feel for her at all, she knew what she was doing! She knows that this is an attempt to elevate her contention for a Golden Globe or Oscar and I hope she fails miserably! This is just another assertion that Latinas in Hollywood are an easy sale.
TexnDoc - Who is Shauna Grant and what movie concerning her was nominated for some Oscars?
I believe some of you guys are missing an important point. Yes, Saldana was probably picked for her Hollywood looks and because her name is known to every obsessive "Avatar" nerd who can't separate Zoe from that Avatar chick, but Michael's post implied (at least to me) that the bad makeup/nose job is due to the derision Simone's daughter showed for the director's decision to cast Zoe as Nina in the first place. As a part of Hollywood and therefore undoubtedly a liberal, Cynthia Mort very likely considers herself an extremely thoughtful and moral person without a prejudiced bone in her body. Therefore it probably stung to be criticized for not choosing a "real" black woman, one who could act and/or sing. But if the part is already cast, especially if Mort could only get financing with Saldana's name attached... well, say hello to RDJ in Tropic Thunder. I'm sure it wasn't planned that way.
Grace Jones - I was reading comments on HuffPo one time (I forget what the article was about but it was in the Entertainment section) and there were several African-Americans complaining about the same things you are now. A black woman who had been in the business (NOT acting) responded to these posters several times saying that when black people started supporting movies such as this Simone biopic then Hollywood would start making them. It's a business after all. Anyway, I highly doubt many people will see this movie with or without Zoe Saldana with or without a prosthetic nose. If it's a labor of love for Mort then great but then she should have picked a Nina Simone to play Nina Simone.
I watched the first season of "The Walking Dead" on Netflix streaming a few months ago and have thus far seen only half of the first show of the 2nd season (the show's just "okay" for me), but I came across an article while trying to find out when the second season would be available and it implied that several main characters were bumped off in S2 because the actors were overly vocal in their support of the show's creator after he was fired. The author of the article also said that he was waiting for Andrea (I think? She's the wife of Rick, right?) to be killed off fairly early in S3 because that actress had also been very vocal in her support of the man. Maybe that bit of info will help you guys figure out what might happen with The Governor, huh? How faithful is the show to the source material?
Submitted by pfk on Tue, 10/30/2012 - 12:49am.
It's ironic that the You Tube link in the MrsPotatoHead post directly above yours is to Simone singing "Sinnerman" with quite a bit of Caribbean flair. It even sounded a tad Reggae. I wonder when it was recorded?
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Submitted by Orangina on Mon, 10/29/2012 - 2:58pm.
I also watched Walking Dead last night. It was alright but I hate that governor guy that kills everybody for no reason. Like he's not just killing zombies, he's killing the actually living people, for no reason. It's like they wrote him into the show to spice things up
They didn't "write him into the show" - he is an integral character in the comics. And he is 20x worse in the comics, but it remains to be seen whether AMC has the balls to show how bad he really is. I hope so, but I doubt it. Plus I no longer have faith in the writers of this show.
As usual they haven't got the vaguest idea how to handle the female characters. Michonne, who is top 3 in the comics, has suddenly become a background fixture in the show playing the skulking, frowning, mute second fiddle to Andrea. Poor Danai is trying her hardest. And Andrea has become the idiot she was last season again, looking for a random bad guy to fuck. Besides Darryl I hate everybody on this show.
Submitted by pfk on Tue, 10/30/2012 - 12:49am.
Zoe has a Dominican father, and a Puerto Rican mother.
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softness1 - Saldana is Dominican. However, there is a great deal of African blood in both Dominicans and Puerto Ricans. It's ironic that the You Tube link in the MrsPotatoHead post directly above yours is to Simone singing "Sinnerman" with quite a bit of Caribbean flair. It even sounded a tad Reggae. I wonder when it was recorded?
Submitted by zsa-zsa on Mon, 10/29/2012 - 8:05pm.
People aren't blindly bashing Zoe based on her skin color, she has ZERO TALENT based on other films we've seen her in. Aside from that, blackface is racist and offensive, period, no matter who is doing it.
There is no such thing as reverse racism. Racism is about oppression. For example, white people can be discriminated against but there is no such thing as "reverse racism" against white people. Racism is a system of advantage based on race. It is a system involving cultural messages and institutional policies and practices as well as the beliefs and actions of individuals.
Discriminatory actions can be perpetrated by anyone, but racism needs the institutional backing. Racism is not a one-off moment of discrimination; it is a cycle, a web of power and structures that affirm one group's dominance over another. Racism has deep roots and a wide reach.
Here's a quote from someone who can sum it up better than I can:
"Black women are not discriminating against you because you are a light-skinned woman. We are expressing our frustration at a racial hierarchy that renders us too unattractive even to represent ourselves. And if we’re being honest, you got this role, in part, because of the privilege you’ve been accorded as a light-skinned Afro-Latina.
That’s not to say I don’t think you’re a talented actress. You most certainly are. In fact, I think you could surprise us with your performance in the film. That doesn’t change the fact that you are contributing to the ongoing invisibility of women who cannot remove their deep brown complexions, broad noses, and kinky hair every day after work. This project is a testament to the unconscionable arrogance of white supremacy. By taking part, you’ve condoned that arrogance."
If you think hiring a light skinned person in blackface is okay but wanting dark-skinned black women to at least have a chance at roles they're never afforded BECAUSE they are dark skinned which is conventionally seen as "unattractive," you need to re-evaluate.
Funny how Zoers gets no love: most times when I meet a Colombian nowadays I ask them if they have seen 'Colombiana'(I liked it and her role) and they double side-eye me, then cock their heads down and up-eye me and say " dah- bish eezin really fron COLOMBIA! Joo stupeh! " and I'm like "duh!! Its a moobie stupeh!" With their snobby selves. So I'm going to give her a pass on this since its only fair to if Im okay with her playing Colombian. Anyway that's all. Bitch better work that nose-- I want to see flare, betch!
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and Spike Lee got kicked off the James Brown biopic. maybe Quentin Tarrantino can be in charge.
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Submitted by Immodest Goddess on Mon, 10/29/2012 - 8:51pm.
Also, you can't compare this to Nicole Kidman. Nicole is a very good actress and one that disappears into her roles. So I agree that bashing Zoe because of her nationality, heritage or culture is ridiculous and wrong.
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Def agree with this, was mainly criticizing those who were judging her solely for being Dominican and lighter than her, which I find offensive and reverse racist. But I do agree that Nicole is an amazing actress.
Guess we'll see. Small batch Indie films are always the best and unfortunately this doesn't appear to fit that bill. I can actually see Oprah doing a good job with this one.
AAAAAAND, to make things worse, the movie apparently is focussed on a romantic relationship between Nina and her assistant who was actually gay. Why do this movie at all!??!
Also, you can't compare this to Nicole Kidman. Nicole is a very good actress and one that disappears into her roles. So I agree that bashing Zoe because of her nationality, heritage or culture is ridiculous and wrong. The main problem I have with this - and I speak for myself - is that they choose an actress to play Nina who embodies, represents and possesses all the things that Nina had to fight so hard against and the standards against which she was judged her entire life and found lacking.
Like I said before, I like Zoe. I think she's pretty and from the roles I've seen so far she has as much talent as any other young actress working out there. Which may not be saying much I'm afraid. If she nails this she has a lot more acting chops than I've imagined.
This is like picking Taylor Swift to play Stevie Nicks.
It's not just about looks. If you know anything about Nina Simone and her legacy, you know this is a travesty. And this is coming from a Zoe Saldana fan.
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but all you can do is wait and see if you like it before criticizing the selection instead of stating that Saldana is not this, and Saldana is not that.
It's not about who is more like her in real life ( ie Rihanna) it's about who is picked to portray her.
You've got Nicole Kidman, Australian last I checked, playing Grace Kelly, Philidelphia Main Line American . Is everyone complaining? You've got Naomi Watts, Australian, playing Princess Diana, English. This happens all the time and maybe Saldana is really really interested in playing this bc I have heard her identify as a black woman, and who is anyone to judge?
It looks like she's in black face. Not good.
Well, it's always hard to please the family. Is Simone a director by any chance? I like Nina, she was incomparable and Zoe is a capable actress and very pretty. If Simone thinks they could make a better bio-pic, they should go ahead. There are plenty of excellent actresses who would love to pay tribute to the wonderful singer. :)
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Submitted by zsa-zsa on Mon, 10/29/2012 - 7:40pm.
From what I've read, she's Dominican and Puerto Rican, not even African American?
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Sorry but ain't going to jump on the hate bandwagon. The movie's not out yet, so it's impossible to judge her qualifications. Smacks of reverse racism here. Like I said, Brits play Americans, Americans play Brits, Keanu Reeves plays white guys, so does Johnny Depp, etc...etc...
Wasn't it Marin Luther King who said " I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin..."
Umm, Saldana was born in the US, and last I checked Puerto Ricans are Americans. This bashing is racist. Just bc her family is afro-carribean does not mean she is not african enough.
When Halle Barre played Catwoman, did anyone complain for Pete's sake- except for her acting which sucked.
This has nothing to do with Zoe's skin colour as she's actually quite dark. If Rihanna was a good actress and the toss up was between her and Zoe to play the role, I think people would most likely prefer Rihanna because her looks and her attitude call Nina to mind more. I think Hollywood puts a lot more effort into the roles whites play than other races. This just smacks of the typically Hollywood approach. This is also not just a simple character. Nina Simone was proud of her racial background and her features and looks were an integral part of her self identification. To cast Zoe in this role is to deny this and is insulting to her memory. She wasn't typically considered pretty because of her hair, bodytype and facial features and she grew to embrace them and make them her symbols of self love and self acceptance. To hire somebody that embodies all the things she did not represent, against the wishes of her daughter - is insensitive. Technically speaking Kimberly Elise looks fairer than Zoe so, like i said, the colour doesn't matter. If she had gained some weight maybe and tried to act this role without the amateur prosthetics I would have given them more props. And I don't blame her for taking this role. As someone said, if she nails it, it would be the break of a lifetime.
It just seems like this is a true underestimation of the public. Nina Simone had many fans - she was a legend. I seriously doubt the public would not have seen the movie just because the woman playing the role ACTUALLY looked more like her! How ridiculous!
What a sad thing...just a shame.
Not very familiar with Zoe Saldana. I have seen her in some movies, but she was "OK". I do not hate her or like her. I am neutral.
Submitted by zsa-zsa on Mon, 10/29/2012 - 7:40pm.
From what I've read, she's Dominican and Puerto Rican, not even African American?
The big stink is that there are plenty of legitimately talented, dark-skinned African American actresses who could kill this role and they hired someone who doesn't even look like her and can't act for shit which is kind of a slap in the face to both dark-skinned actresses and Nina Simone (especially since her family didn't even condone the movie or Saldana playing Nina)
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I've never seen Zoe act in anything, but she was amazingly annoying as a guest judge on Project Runway.
OH MY GOD. I wanted to fucking set myself on fire watching her. Had to stop and just Google who got eliminated because I couldn't take anymore. Also, she was in Star Trek (2009) and she was basic.
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She was one of the worst guest judges of all time. Just her attitude was nasty as if she was gods gift to Fashion. You would have thought Coco Chanel clawed her way out of the grave and came back in the body of Zoe. Then her suggestions were flat and didn't help anyone.
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I really don't see the big deal folks, cut her a break. You can't win. If she tried to pass as Spanish, not black, guaranteed the black community would be pissed. She is Afro-Carribean, whether she's a tad bit lighter is as relevant as whether or not any other Actress has the same exact skin hue as that which they are playing, it's called "acting" folks, not "looking exactly like". She's a lovely girl who in the US is black, so cut her some slack.
Everyone has something to complain about. When Deniro played mafioso he wasn't Italian enough, when Steven Bauer played a Cuban in Scarface, he wasn't hispanic but he still excelled at the role, Ralph Fiennes played a Nazi in Schindler's List and he wasn't German, Americans play Brits and Brits play Americans and not all skin hues are 100% accurately represented sheesh.
Bottomline, Saldana is Afro-Carribean, who's racist?
Nina Simone was a very strong character and part of her mystic was her looks. She was unapologetic about her looks and her blackness. I question why they tried to make Zoe look realistic when there are many actresses who look close to Nina and could better handle the subject matter. This could have been a big break for a woman who looked more like Nina and would have saved production money on buying ugly Party City wigs. I would have more respect for them if they just had Zoe play her using her own skin tone and facial features. I've never seen Zoe in anything that showed her at an acting level to handle Nina Simone so this could be on an Oscar level performance or the biggest joke in Hollywood.
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I saw Zoe's interview on The Conversation and wanted to barf. She was trying soooooo hard to be cool and came off as so fucking fake. And don't even get me started about how I feel about these photos. Fuck her.
I kind of feel for Zoe in this situation. She's presented with an opportunity that, if she acts the hell out of the part, could vault her into superstardom and net her an Oscar nomination. But a lot of people won't take her seriously--maybe deservedly so--because of her light skin tone and Latina heritage. I mean, that sucks for her, too...she could pull off the performance of a lifetime and there would still be a lot of grousing about it.
Bad decision by the director, who apparently isn't even corresponding with Simone's daughter at ALL in the making of this film....how weird is that?
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Submitted by P.T.Bull on Tue, 09/25/2012 - 10:33pm.
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This is so wrong for so many reasons...
Maybe the one good thing that comes out of it will be the death of Zoe's career...
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Submitted by Nanners on Mon, 10/29/2012 - 1:21pm.
This looks like some Liz 'n Dick bullshit.
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really hollywood?no actual black women with african features were good enough so you had to make zoe look like a universal monster from the 1930s, huh? i wouldn't go see this movie if you paid me
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Reminds me of Jolie as Marianne Pearl.
This is a goddamn waste of time and feels insulting. I like Zoe though.
I never liked Zoe SalDULLna either! The way she comes off in interviews...she tries WAY too hard to come off edgy and badgirl...in the spirit of a 6 year old learning to curse for the first time! I think BCoop will be done with her soon! This is definitely about her trying to elevate her Oscar contention. And with her and Bradley Cooper "dating" of course she and her people want to get her to his level. The sooner he gets all the miles out of her and parks her, the better!
Reminds me of white actors playing asian, native american, indian, etc. roles in old movies, you would think we have moved forward but no, smh.
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What next...Psy playing Ritchie Valens?
If the Simone Family is so perturbed, do your own production. Jeez, Asston Kutcher is playing Steve Jobs in some knock off TV movie before his big Biography is filmed by Sony for the big screen. How many movies were made about underage porn victim Shauna Grant back in the day? Probably 3 TV movies and then a theatrical release that even was nominated for some Oscars.
I would agree that Kimberly Elise would be a better fit, but she's not as big a name, so...