"Shut Your Little.... Don't Make Me Get The Spoon Out!"
A few years ago, bitches lost their minds and called all the numbers to Child Protective Services when Kate "The Kunt" Gosselin was caught by the paps spanking a member of her child army on the driveway of her house. Well, a reporter named Robert Hoffman tells Star Magazine (via Radar) that Kate got a lot more hardcore than just a spank on the nalgas. Mady, Ady, Pady and the rest of the Gosselin children don't have to worry about writing a Mommie Dearest-like tell-all in 15 years, because apparently Kate kept diaries where she wrote all about how she whooped some 2-year-old ass.
Robert is writing his own book (DUH) called Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World and he wrote it using some of Kate's journals that he somehow got a hold of (SPOILER ALERT: Her old possum head hair betrayed her by giving them to him). Robert says that in one entry, Kate writes that when the kids ate some M&Ms without asking, she pulled Collin up by the hair and spanked him into a different race and back again. In another entry, Kate wrote about how she regularly used a wooden spoon that she called The Spanker. And Radar goes on with the fuckery:
Kate herself often worried about her excessive physicality, allegedly writing in the diary that she told her ex-husband, Jon Gosselin, that she “felt like I may hurt his children,” and that she preferred it when the kids were “out of her sight” whenever she flew off the handle, because then she knew “that they are safe.”
In another frightening entry, claims Hoffman, Kate wrote that she was so incensed after Collin threw a tantrum, “I sent him to his crib and whipped him into it very hard...I never felt that I may really seriously injure a child, but today was that day.”
In an abuelita's belt of whoopin' tools, I've seen a rubber chancla, a leather chancla, several kinds of belts, electrical cords, a switch and tree branches of all sizes, but I don't think I've ever seen a wooden spoon. You know, Kate Gosselin is an evil, greedy bitch who would repeatedly punch a baby bunny if someone told her it was filled with quarters, so none of this is surprising, but I have a question about the wooden spoon thing. Does she have a special spoon she uses just for spanking or does she use the same one she mixes cake batter and oatmeal with? Because if it's the latter, that's just unhygienic and barbaric!
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I never watched her show, but I did hear that she campaigned for/with Failin' Palin, so she gets a "F" from me anyway. . . but can I just say that I TOO use a wooden spoon to discipline my kids.
I am not a spanker (mine are 2 and 3), but the big wooden spoon works because once they got smacked one time on their little pull-up covered bottoms, the minor impact of the blow combined with the very loud "thwack!" sound seemed to confuse them into thinking they HAD been spanked or something. I only had to put the spoon into action once per kid; now, the mere appearance of the spoon causes any nonsense, disobedience, temper tantrums, etc. to stop instantly. And I give plenty of verbal warnings before the spoon even appears.
I did test the blow on the inside of my bare thigh before I ever administered it to one of them. Just to double-check that I wouldn't actually hurt either of my little munchkins...
I despise this woman. I have no idea why she even had children because it looks like she resented them (Especially the smallest bunch).. I hardly saw love and care come from her. She is trash trash trash. No wonder her own family had nothing to do with her. Witch.
I have mixed feelings on this. I think that in our country we have allowed children to take the authority in the home. My parents were NOT violent at all, but they made it extremely clear to me that I was NOT the boss.
I think they were just pretty good at being intimidating. I do not think beating is necessary, but I do feel that firm punishment and sticking to those punishments is very necessary.
I think this Kate woman is totally stressed and has maxed herself out with this many kids. One child is MORE than enough...this many is downright ridiculous.
my parents tool of choice was a skinny leather belt.
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My mom's punisher was a yellow plastic fly swatter. The end was shaped like a butterfly, lol. I had to do something really bad to get it, though. When I babysat my nephews and they acted up, I just held them by the wrist for a while until they settled down. They hated not being able to do anything so they calmed down pretty quickly. That was 30 years ago and they still talk about it every now and then. Non-violent but it worked. I guess it was an early form of time out they couldn't get out of.
Thinking about this, I'm sure Gosselin metes out the verbal abuse at the same rate as the physical abuse. I'd bet cash money that she's screamed this at her kids on more than one occasion: "What GOOD are you if you CAN'T GET ME BACK ON TELEVISION?"
Yeah, those kids are probably extremely damaged. Where's their damn father?
Submitted by tomahawk on Thu, 09/27/2012 - 9:05am.
Well, just to throw in:
In Germany it's prohibited by law (since 2000) to punish a kid physically - so either we're one big bunch of future mass murderers (again) or our government is convinced there are enough possibilities to raise your kids without violence.
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German mothers need to spank their kids more. You guys have the weirdest crimes and murders over there.
Submitted by Catsclaw on Thu, 09/27/2012 - 12:28pm.
Too many parents try to be their kids' friends. They have friends. Be their parent, and teach them to be polite, nice kids. Society will thank you later for it.
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Agreed. I have an amazing relationship with mine, but at times when he's trying to play me I have to say: "I see what you're doing there *side eye* and you know sometimes I have to be the bad guy so I'm sorry but nope - good effort though! Next!" and he laughs.
I popped my son once in the mouth because he lost his shit one day (about 4yrs old) and that's it. I know his triggers and limits. Other than that, he is an angel. I could not get lucky twice so he is IT for me.
We were in Target recently and this woman (about 25) had a toddler in the cart and the kid just crying, you just knew she was tired (eye rubbing etc) and the mom was saying, "Shut your damn mouth right now, just shut UP" and whacked her pretty good a few times. My son's face was a look of horror because he's never had that from his parents. He wanted me to call the cops. He asked me about that little girl for about a week, he was worried for her.
I have spanked my child twice in his entire life, and once with the wooden spoon because I got a call from the principal about some appalling behavior at school. After that, all I had to do was threaten the wooden spoon and he'd behave. The other time he was spanked was when he was misbehaving in a restaurant. I took him to the bathroom and gave it to him. He never misbehaved in a restaurant again. Usually, I get him where it hurts, computer, TV or something. You take away the one thing they really love. It brings almost instant compliance.
I take my son to Europe, where the kids are so well behaved and well mannered. It is so different from the U.S. My son sees how they behave and tries to model it.
Too many parents try to be their kids' friends. They have friends. Be their parent, and teach them to be polite, nice kids. Society will thank you later for it.
Wooden spoon was the norm in my house.
You knew you were really fucked when my mother would tell you to go "pick out your favorite shoe" of hers. Then she'd beat you with it. My moron sister never caught on & ALWAYS picked a high heel. (shakes head)
Why is the whole "strangers compliment me on how well-behaved my children are" such a recurring theme with people who hit their kids? Why are we so invested in having docile kids and being recognized for that?
As somebody pointed out earlier, kids who are hit are kids who are fearful. I don't want fearful kids - I was a fearful kid and it's terrible preparation for your adult life.
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MK how can you not know about the wooden spoon? it's a classic!
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Submitted by louise_brooks on Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:19am.
Bitch, you are not better then Keanu Reeves!
Jesus Christ. Television executives, thank you for normalising and enriching actual fucking child abusers. This woman should not exist.
I don't think a wooden spoon is a big deal. A belt is. Being hit in the face is.
When I was 8, I wasn't memorizing my multiplication tables well enough at school, so my parents made me face the wall, told me things like '8x4', and if I didn't say the right answer immediately, they belted me.
Was I always well-behaved? Yes. Because I was terrified. I'm sure my parents, like others in this thread, boasted about how I always did what they said. :) The price was high, though - I haven't spoken to my father in years, and while I pretend to like my mom, I'll be glad when she's gone.
Kate's kids will probably hate her. These things always have consequences.
I'm not saying this isn't true, but if it were, is she really stupid enough to write it all down? I don't think so. This guy 'claims' to have seen a diary and 'claims' this is what was in it. He could be telling lies just to make a fast buck on his book. I wouldn't be surprised if she's back in the news again for going after this guy with a lawsuit.
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My Mom had The Paddle - a flat wooden stick, 14" long, kept atop the fridge. She only had to use it 3 times, as the *fear* of it was worse than the reality. They were spankings ( a few taps on the ass), not beatings. Her other punishments were non-physical. Going out in public was *treat*, not a right. If my brother or I mis-behaved in public, it was a loooong time before we ever went out again. She'd call a baby sitter. Maybe part of the problem is so many parents don't have a life outside of their kids, and they wrongly blame the kids for it. I'm lucky, as I had (have) 2 good, loving parents, who did what they could for their kids, but still had lives OUTSIDE of us. "Public wisdom is deranged."
"Huliganjetta" - Gogol Bordello
It seems that KG is abusive - the corporal punishment is only one facet of her parenting skills. She's proven she's neglectful, and rarely puts her kids first. If she wasn't famous and wealthy, would anyone even hesitate to call CPS? "Public wisdom is deranged."
"Huliganjetta" - Gogol Bordello
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Child abuse. Do you have a relationship with your parents to this day? Most likely that's how they were punished and good for you for breaking the cycle.
Yes I don't speak with them
But people seem to think I'm evil for not speaking to them, so I just say I have no family is easier
Ok late but relevant
My parents punishents:
Belt after shower naked cause leather hurts more
Tin can full of holes side up kneel on it under hot sun an hour
Chair over your head as you kneel
Punching bag for dad
Eat veggies if vomit eat that too
Belt until blood or cry
Hair cuts
Never ever tv etc...
But mostly with the belt
I don't know I think I'm ok with corporal punishment if the parent doesn't use it in anger
I could never ever hit a child because I might lose my temper
Ok as far as my learning expierence NADA other than fear I didn't understand why I got punished that way all I knew is that I was hated and an incovinience and unwanted
Still have major trust issues
I guess in all honesty I don't support corporal punishment because it doesn't really get the point accross
You need to talk to your child and explain not grab a spoon in anger and desperation
Violence is wrong. Hurting people is wrong. Children are people.
I was beaten a lot as a child - switch, paint-stirrer, cords. I have barely spoken to my parents since I left home 16 years ago.
One sister beats her kids, one kid is afraid of his iwn shadow and the other is a terror. Another sister does not spank and she has four well -adjusted confident kids.
I'm black and I hate that abuse is so accepted by blacks and so many other folks. It is wrong, and it is lazy parenting.
"This world is a whore."
Violence is wrong. Hurting people is wrong. Children are people.
I was beaten a lot as a child - switch, paint-stirrer, cords. I have barely spoken to my parents since I left home 16 years ago.
One sister beats her kids, one kid is afraid of his iwn shadow and the other is a terror. Another sister does not spank and she has four well -adjusted confident kids.
I'm black and I hate that abuse is so accepted by blacks and so many other folks. It is wrong, and it is lazy parenting.
"This world is a whore."
I really don't believe in hitting kids - I think it's a lazy way to discipline that lets off steam for the parent more than anything else. I have three little ones and they often drive me bonkers, so recognize how hard it is to stifle the urge to be physically controlling when they're acting up.
I can't believe I'm about to stick up for KG. Not sure if she was seeking help for it or not, but those alleged entries make it sound as though she was aware she had a problem. Parents need to be able to admit and confide this stuff, otherwise it all goes underground and kids get hurt.
Sarah Smile
"There *are* other ways to discipline children you know, but they require more patience and self-control - on the parent's part."
I think you hit the nail on the head. This is a thread of pure horror. It's nice to read some common sense.
I don't have kids yet, but I have one niece and I can attest to the power of patient and self-controlled discipline. She has never been spanked. She is also the smartest, most well-behaved kid I have ever encountered. Has she thrown tantrums before? Sure, what kid hasn't? The difference isn't in her behavior, it's in the behavior of her parents.
I think the problem lies in the fact that parents pay attention to their kids only when those kids behave negatively. You smack your kid around when they misbehave, and give them no attention, encouragement or support when they behave positively. So to get the attention they need- ANY attention- kids act out negatively. Simple a+b=c. I don't want to turn it into a racial issue either, but where I live, black children seem to have the worst attitudes. Black parents also have the worst attitudes. Where do the kids learn it I wonder?
Anyone see on her show when she was in one bus with 'her bodyguard' and the kids were in another with their nannies?
She hysterically screamed at the nanny because one of her hungry children ate a piece of her 'bodyguard's' pizza. The child handed over the remaining piece and Kate went batshit because her child handed it over with their bare hand. It is your child eating food because they are hungry but you are more concerned about a grown up side piece getting nourished over your own child??!!
I think KG is abusive. Verbally, mentally, physically. My opinion. Glad she is not my mom.
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Da-yumn. Some of you children must have been awful. ;-) The maddest I ever made my mother, she cried alone and DAD let me know she was crying and neither one raised a hand to me but I felt like shit for the entire day and then some. I still remember, it was Christmas morning and I was absolutely furious I didn't get what I wanted. Looking back they they should have thrown me through a window. I was a regular Dawn Davenport and her ChaCha Heels.
I wouldn't assume all were badly behaved
I would get punished for spending all day cleaning the house
It all depended on my parents mood
One time when I was still a teen my father biggest complaint about me was that I wore belly shirts!
Well, just to throw in:
In Germany it's prohibited by law (since 2000) to punish a kid physically - so either we're one big bunch of future mass murderers (again) or our government is convinced there are enough possibilities to raise your kids without violence.
my momma would throw whatever happened to be around at me, usually a shoe, but she'd bust out the spoon every so often or give a good smack upside the head.
I'm no advocate of excessive punishment but in my opinion, "time outs" aren't always the best discipline for a really bad kid.
Submitted by Opsat1 on Thu, 09/27/2012 - 8:33am.
I got spanked with anything within my parents' reach when I was a child. Once, my father broke a wooden spoon over my ass he spanked me so hard.
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haha, we have similar stories. I just skimmed by the comments quickly before.
I would try to escape my mom also by running around the house and hiding beneath the bed. Eventually, I got out and assumed the position, so to speak. ;) I laugh at it now.
no big deal from me either on this one. I actually had a wooden (or was it plastic?, nah wooden) spoon broken in half from spanking on my ass as a kid. It's a spank, ouch, it pinches more than anything and your butt gets real red.
I never hit or spanked anyone, but prefer not to have kids of mine. In my mind I sometimes envision not only spanking the hell out of some brats and people. I do have pets, and both are spoiled with attention, affection and luv.
I got spanked with anything within my parents' reach when I was a child. Once, my father broke a wooden spoon over my ass he spanked me so hard. The spoon half flew across the kitchen and bounced off of the wall above our stove.
I was very seasoned to spankings, and came to a point where I did kegels to strengthen my ass, so I could tense that baby up (and break wooden spoons with it).
The scariest spanking tool, though, that I ever faced was when I made my mother angry, and she showed up in the doorway of my bedroom holding a whiffle ball bat with both hands (like Babe Ruth) hissing (yes, literally hissing) the words: "Pull down your pants! Now!!!!!"
I turned into Captain America that day, and did gymnastics to escape that whooping!
meh....i got the belt..and the ruler (i went to a parochial elementary school)....most times i deserved the belt...some kids need a spanking...not to confused with beating a kid...
btw, i laughed my ass off as i read this post...
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Why in the h@ll does she have 8 kids?
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Submitted by DianaDeath on Wed, 09/26/2012 - 11:06pm.
I'm nowhere near outraged; my parents had a wooden spoon, too. It seems like it's mostly White folk who get all up in arms about corporal punishment. *shrugs indifferently*
Speak for yourself. I'm white and I got a thick leather belt, a wooden spoon and a yardstick, as odd as it sounds. Every yardstick we ever had was broken over our butts. Most of them are pretty delicate, really, and we were always glad to see the yardstick coming instead of a belt. I spank my kids, too, and I'm not ashamed. I have strangers walk up to me and ask me how I get my kids to behave like that. If most people would stop being such pussies about it and just hand out punishments when they are needed, I wouldn't get those comments and questions so often.
Spanking isn't the huge freaking deal that so many people make it out to be now. I'm glad I had real consequences as a child, and I'm glad my kids have them now. I think too many parents literally don't care about their kids enough to spank them. They just care about being liked by their kids and looking like a "good" or "fun" mom.
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The same tired old argument that justifies beating your kids. Well guess what? There's lot of polite, well-behaved kids out there who aren't beaten, mine included. There *are* other ways to discipline children you know, but they require more patience and self-control - on the parent's part.
I got spanked as a kid and while I remember vividly every horrible feeling it created, I can't remember one positive thing that came of it.
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my mom always gave me a choice between the wooden spoon or the strap
Well where I am from, the wooden spoon is a family legacy passed down from generation after generation of fed up mommas to bratty kids. My mom would beat up with the same wooden spoon she used to make cookies! She stopped after breaking a few on my brothers ass. He was such a jerk. It was kindof funny, my mom trying to spank us with that stupid cooking spoon. Not scary really, not as scary as the dreaded belt, hairbrush or shoe. She never actually whipped me as far as I remember with her belt but I remember her being so mad she would "go to get her belt" and the fear of god would enter my soul and I would pray and cry for forgiveness and mercy. That is how it is done. Parenting is no joke.
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Submitted by Cookie_Monster_ on Thu, 09/27/2012 - 2:00am.
Who cares? I don't blame her at all for beating those shitastic kids! Have you seen the way they act? Fucking brats! The oldest one, Maddie, is a fucking nightmare, cursing and kicking at her parents. Beat that fucking brat with every utensil you have!
I'd have my foot up her ass if I were her mom.
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You are a SICK fucking piece of shit!!!
Those kids would not be acting that way(and would not need to be ABUSED...like you want!!!) if they had adequate attention and supervision in the first place!
You think it's okay for PIMP KATE to make her living off of her kids and then abuse them for doing what kids do that don't have proper parental supervision??
And yet you want to deny 2 consenting adults the right to get married!
YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING PILE OF BIGOTED HATEFUL ABUSIVE SHIT!!!
This bitch makes her LIVING off of hew kids! Jon is just as bad!(in different ways)
Their children are FUCKED!
Please, this is news? "Evil, greedy bitch" is right. It was obvious from day one. Does this guy think anyone is going to buy a book about what was always evident on television?
And Octomom, while just as crazy and evil as Gosselin, mistreats her children in a different way: TOTAL NEGLECT. Not any better than Gosselin's beatdowns, but just as damaging to her kids.
Both these women disgust me.
Kate and Octomom are on the same level. The bizarre thing is ou NEVER hear about Nadya Suleman's kids acting out, or hear abusing her kids.
Everything you see I owe to spaghetti.
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My mother was a drunken rageholic, deep down I hate women but I don't strike 'em
Submitted by Brown-EyedGirl on Thu, 09/27/2012 - 12:05am.
We live in Omaha so we used to tell our little brother that he'd be sent to Boys Town. We'd pick up the phone "WE'RE CALLING THEM!"
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My parents sent me there. It sucked and took me some years to get over.
Why does she still have her kids and "fame"? Same with OctoMom. Mandatory proper parenting classes at least.
Breaking....the good die young and the evil ones live forever it seems far too often.. that's for sure.
Cookie.....those kids are brats because they are acting out cause they have a wimp for a father and a narcissist angry bitch who hates kids for a mother. Duh. The kids are messed up.
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Doesn't surprise me that she's a rage-a-holic.
I'm not against spanking, but it was rare that I spanked my own kid. My dad would make us get our own switch, or he would use his belt. My mom was a mean old hag. She'd slap us across the face or pinch-and-twist the skin until we bruised (and more). The worst? She would put popcorn kernels on the ground, and we had to kneel on them while reading bible verses out loud. Effing hate that woman. And she wonders why I want ZERO to do with her?!?!
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That is awesome that you are writing to your father. The healing that this will give you and your dad is going to go a long way in you feeling better and bring you peace. My father died without warning as the two of us were just starting to reconnect and working to have a healthy relationship.
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Submitted by 68Special on Thu, 09/27/2012 - 1:37am.
yes his aunt is a hard task master, whereas his mum was just a softy. his did died when he was only a toddler, so she was raising him by herself, anyway. she recovered, the chemo and all the treatments worked.
and the son is a great story because you had this young man who would sleep in all day, get up, eat, play computer games go back to sleep.
to somebody who is out and about working, GOT his drivers license! (big deal in australia since all the kids expect their parents to drive them around forever), i bought him a shirt and tie for his job interview, and he got the job as a code computer person, lol