Tony Scott Jumped To His Death

As someone who is currently suffering through a six-year battle with depression I certainly view suicide as an option to end my problems. I don't judge Tony Scott for what he did, but then again, I am suffering in much the same way that he probably was. Suicide isn't the only option, but it is an option. If it is to be looked at as a crime or a sin at all, it is a victimless one. Tony Scott hurt no one with his actions and like deciding what he was going to do on any given day, he had the right to decide how he wanted to end his life. It isn't fair that illness or the actions of others (drunk driving, homicide, senseless mistakes) get to end the lives of good people. I believe people should be allowed to and not judged for taking control of their lives and making that final decision.

Glad everyone made up but some posters I previously held in great esteem have gone way down. I don't think you know what depression is. Thank God I don't. Suicide is selfish? How about expecting a person to suffer forever because YOU like having them around? RIP Tony boy of South Shields.

I have to say that I enjoy the irony of boredasfuck harshly judging everyone for "being judgmental" about suicide. Lolz.

And more importantly, sorry for your losses to everyone who posted their stories and personal experience with suicide.

OK, this is surreal: His wife was one of the fembots in Austin Powers (along with Cindy Margolis, the lead fembot).

Yes, I realize that "fembot" is terribly, terribly sexist, but it was a parody, man.

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It's just fun to say "Pussy Riot."

Nikki Finke and Mike Fleming at Deadline.com just posted the following:

Tony Scott’s widow Donna has told police that the famed filmmaker/TV producer did not have brain cancer, informed insiders tell Deadline. That makes erroneous this morning’s Good Morning America report that he “had inoperable brain cancer” and quoting “a source close to him”. The ABC claim was widely picked up by media outlets globally (but not Deadline) as the reason why Scott committed suicide Sunday by jumping off a Los Angeles County bridge at 12:35 PM. Within half an hour ABC was backing off its story (see below). This is the third time in a month that ABC News has erroneously reported on a sensitive news story.

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Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 10:32pm.

fun when peeps get along or agree to disagree.
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Truth.

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“When I ask how old your toddler is, I don't need to hear '27 months.' He's two. He's not a cheese. And I didn't really care in the first place.” -George Carlin (RIP MCA and C.Hitchens) *caprica six was/is here*

Submitted by C6 on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 10:24pm.

Can't complain. It's good to be busy at work though. It's been slow at work for me, makes the day drag!

Yes, never a dull moment here, but it's sad when shit gets heated and the fur flies. People, for the most part, are good eggs here, and it is so much more fun when peeps get along or agree to disagree.

Tardy to the party (what a shitshow!), but if Tony Scott were my loved one, I think I could understand and empathize and forgive him.

If someone has a terminal illness or something like Parkinson's, I totally understand why they would take their own life pre-emptively. Seeing what end-of-life care is like... A jump off a bridge or a bullet in the brain is humane.

I wish peace to everyone who has has to deal with this, however tangentially.

Submitted by SANS FARDS on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 10:17pm.

SANS FARDS, thanks for posting this heart-melting video. This tiny creature is absolutely adorable! Those little fingers, and those bulging eyes! And it's holding a fork! Cuteness!

Cups, doing okay; lots of work deadlines. It's funny cause I'll miss three or four days here and when I pop on, some heated shit is going on. No one can say the DL is boring that's for sure! lol. Hope all is well with you, bud.

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“When I ask how old your toddler is, I don't need to hear '27 months.' He's two. He's not a cheese. And I didn't really care in the first place.” -George Carlin (RIP MCA and C.Hitchens) *caprica six was/is here*

Submitted by SANS FARDS on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 7:18pm.

Same here Sans Fards, i found MK while suffering with extreme fibromyalgia and intracranial hypertension symptoms while trying to switch from my decades long thyroid-hormone /t4 RX to the RX type that contains all the thyroid hormones/types.
i was so sick that my body literally couldn't tolerate taking the more active form of the thyroid hormones my body should have been making all my life
and so it took me over a year.
and i couldn't take pain meds cuz if your liver is not making the most important thyroid hormone,, it can't 'detoxify any thing like OTC or Rx pain meds either.

but i laughed every day while reading MKs posts.

fwiw to those who have experienced or friends experienced depressions, a lot of hypothyroid autoimmune/thyroid folks get misdiagnosed before finally getting proper diagnosis

*conversely, the psychiatry and other medical fields working with depression, mood and cognition pateints have been using the thyrodi hormones on some of their patients for many decades.

if you google : thyroid depression
it returns about 11 MIllion hits.

thank god for the internet and people learning from each other and their doctors, and the medical databases /NIH/ etc.

a lot of folks work with more than 1 type of doctor and yes more and more doctors are willing to work with your other doctors too.

best wishes

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Yup, add me in the 'chin up' team. Just fight it out, one moment at a time, to anyone going through stuff now.

Sans, I hear you about this place getting people through some really dark/empty times.
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“When I ask how old your toddler is, I don't need to hear '27 months.' He's two. He's not a cheese. And I didn't really care in the first place.” -George Carlin (RIP MCA and C.Hitchens) *caprica six was/is here*

Submitted by C6 on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 10:13pm.

Hi C6! (((hugs)))))

How's it going?

Hang in there, SandwichQueen. sending good thoughts your way.

This always makes me feel better....watch this adorable little slow loris nomming on a rice ball:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-xvIjH8T4&playnext=1&list=PL7338C627DB6...

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Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 8:05pm.

There is no RIGHT or WRONG on this thread today.

At the end of the day, we are all "friends" here, in spite of occasional dust ups and some trolls. Remember that!
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{{Cups}}

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“When I ask how old your toddler is, I don't need to hear '27 months.' He's two. He's not a cheese. And I didn't really care in the first place.” -George Carlin (RIP MCA and C.Hitchens) *caprica six was/is here*

Sandwichqueen - some people will simply never be happy about anything. My first wife criticized every single thing I did or tried to accomplish. Its absolutely horrible. Hang in there and keep your head up.
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Submitted by SandwichQueen on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 9:28pm.

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I think you've got a lot of company here - those right there with you and those who have been. Hang in there. Hope you feel better soon :)

His wife has supposably said that he wasn't ill with anything.

And we're all dying--suicide, like homicide, just advances the inevitable.

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Submitted by SANS FARDS on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 7:18pm.
Listen, bitches....you're all gonna think I'm cray, but you know what helped me through those dark days in my early 20s when I was slogging through the worst depression of my life?

Dlisted.
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That's why I'm here, especially the last few days. It's not helping as much as I'd like. My mind still really hurts.

Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 8:05pm.

Why is this still going on? This thread ruined the ENTIRE day on dlisted!

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I stayed away from it b/c of this... :/ I've got strong feelings on the topic but I just can't get into it online. Terribly sad, any way you shake it.

I will say that George does an excellent job lip synching in this video.

Submitted by Uncle Brain-fart on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 8:26pm.
And again you don't see the irony of how you pass judgement on other people all for the sake of your " how dare you judge this total stranger" tirade. You don't know jack shit about anyone on here and just love to hear yourself jap. I m sorry that I wasted two posts on your hypocritical ass.
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I love to hear myself jap??? Well that's a little racist don't you think??? It's okay that you wasted 2 posts on me. You said a whole lot of one-siding nothing in both and expected to be taken seriously, so I didn't care either way, but cool story bro *thumbs up*

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"What if all you understand could fit into the center of a hand? And then you found it wasn't you, who held the sum of everything you knew?"

Whoa! I'm not going to take any sides on this issue but I have to say that being brought up Catholic I was always led to believe that killing one's self is a sin...a grave sin...the real BIG one. The Catholics believe that we do not have the RIGHT to willingly end our own lives. It's looked upon as murder, whether it's directed at another human being or towards ones self.

Having said that I also found religion to not fully understand that how could a depressed person really be held accountable for some of his actions when he's not really in a logical state of mind.

I can see how people would not view suicide as an option under any circumstance.

Don't worry! You don't need to respond.

Damn I love that George Michael song. Thanks for posting it-although I'm not really sure what 'directing' had to be done.

And again you don't see the irony of how you pass judgement on other people all for the sake of your " how dare you judge this total stranger" tirade. You don't know jack shit about anyone on here and just love to hear yourself jap. I m sorry that I wasted two posts on your hypocritical ass.

RIP Tony. I find it very sad to hear this MK. For whatever reason, it's terrible he felt he had to do it, that he left family behind, etc. etc :(

*Sads hearing that song too, MK*

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Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 8:05pm.

Tony Scott was dying. It is NOT for any of us to judge his decision to end his life. We do not know him. It is not for me to judge anyone I do not know on how they feel about suicide relating to family issues who posts on here.
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^ Which was MY WHOLE POINT! You can not say surely based on personal experiences with that of another because everyone is different, and everyone's experience is different, especially in this case, where no one even knew him.

EDIT: It was never a matter of not being able to empathize or sympathize with others personal experiences, but I did not think it was fair to base their judgments because of it. I never said I could not see both sides of the coin. Likewise, it'd be nice if others were that open-minded, but I guess(I shouldn't be shocked) not everyone is like that.
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"What if all you understand could fit into the center of a hand? And then you found it wasn't you, who held the sum of everything you knew?"

Why is this still going on? This thread ruined the ENTIRE day on dlisted!

Here is the bottom line: EVERY ONE OF US has a right to our OPINION.

Tony Scott was dying. It is NOT for any of us to judge his decision to end his life. We do not know him. It is not for me to judge anyone I do not know on how they feel about suicide relating to family issues who posts on here.

I am so sorry that so many dlisters have been touched by suicide in their lives. It makes me very sad to know that people have been thorough what they have been through with family or friends. I do not judge anyone for saying that the people in their lives who committed suicide are selfish. That is their experience, and that is how they feel. By the same token ,not all suicides are the same. Yes, the end result is, but there are reasons behind what an individual feels when it comes to ending their life.

SDR, PHM, and anyone else ((((hugs))).

((((hugs))) to Boredas, as well.

There is no RIGHT or WRONG on this thread today.

At the end of the day, we are all "friends" here, in spite of occasional dust ups and some trolls. Remember that!

Submitted by little_rascal on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 8:00pm.

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Leave SpottedDogRanch alone, for God's sake!
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UBF is the one that brought up me and SDR up again, so I responded.

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"What if all you understand could fit into the center of a hand? And then you found it wasn't you, who held the sum of everything you knew?"

Submitted by boredasfuckyo on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 7:50pm.

No I do not pity SDR for her fucked up views on the human condition because she is so fucking wrapped up with her own personal experience she can't see beyond her own world.

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Submitted by Uncle Brain-fart on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 7:13pm.
Bored, I am not trying to start shit , but you claim we are judging total strangers , yet you dont seem to have a problem giving your opinion on SDR's Daddy based on a what, 10 line paragraph? You see yourself as a victim, while others see the survivors as victims. It all boils down to which path you're on. Don't talk down on the one you haven't experienced.

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UBF, when I pointed out her own words, and how fucked it was that it seemed like she was basing every suicide on her fathers, her story all of a sudden changed to "oh well he was in psychiatric care", yea alright, but whatever, she didn't paint her father in a very flattering light,so therefore I didn't take it as a very flattering one. However, THAT wasn't even my POINT which people love to miss because if they actually read my main point, they'd really have no leg to stand on would they?
My point was, this has nothing to do with personal experiences. Yet this is what people made of this man's death in order to justify their condemnation and judgment of him. The article didn't read "Tony Scott drug addict ODs" or some bullshit like that that he could have inflicted on himself,it said he jumped off a bridge and took his life. No other details were given, but holy fuck did people start to judge this man left, right and sideways, and I highly doubt anyone in here personally knew Tony Scott, but instead they still felt the personal need to condemn this man for reasons based on their own personal agendas and experiences, and I am sorry, but that is fucked up, ignorant, and totally shows what an empty vessel for human beings they are, and if you think their judgment of this person they don't know is proper, then you are just as fucked up, and no I do not have to know you to make that assessment, because the fact that you would be okay with that tells me all I care to know.and the personal attacks against me, and my character, and what I supposedly stand for in order to cover up their own tomfuckery does not cover and change that. Sometimes being called an asshole hurts because it's the truth. They aren't just reserved for the Lindsay Lohan's and the Kardashians and the Shia LeFuckfaces.

I don't give a shit what their personal dramas are, that gives them 0 right to judge this man. And THAT WAS MY POINT.

Someone called him selfish for leaving his twins behind. He had fucking BRAIN CANCER FOR FUCK SAKES! No I do not pity SDR for her fucked up views on the human condition because she is so fucking wrapped up with her own personal experience she can't see beyond her own world. What happen to her yes, that's unfortunate. However, that does not give her the right to judge another human being based on that.

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"What if all you understand could fit into the center of a hand? And then you found it wasn't you, who held the sum of everything you knew?"

I second that Sans Fards, Dlisted and vodka got me through the last three years of darkness with my extended family. Through the darkness brightly, with lots of comic sex references. Thanks whooores!!

@ SpottedDogRanch and PrettyHateMachine

I'm so sorry to hear about all the awful heartbreak and pain you've been through. God bless you, girls.

Listen, bitches....you're all gonna think I'm cray, but you know what helped me through those dark days in my early 20s when I was slogging through the worst depression of my life?

Dlisted.

I've been posting here 2 years (one under a different user name) but have been lurkity lurking since 2006. MK's snarkery and the hilarious ho's of the commentariat helped me keep it together. Yeah sure, we bitch and carp about stupid celebrities doing dumb shit, but when the sitch calls for it, this place can be a real community, you know?

So thanks for that, sluts!

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Bored, I am not trying to start shit , but you claim we are judging total strangers , yet you dont seem to have a problem giving your opinion on SDR's Daddy based on a what, 10 line paragraph? You see yourself as a victim, while others see the survivors as victims. It all boils down to which path you're on. Don't talk down on the one you haven't experienced.

Submitted by PrettyHateMachine on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 6:04pm.
Thanks, Bored. I hope we can all just move along and get along.
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Yea, I'm fine on my end, and I truly do hope the best for you.

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"What if all you understand could fit into the center of a hand? And then you found it wasn't you, who held the sum of everything you knew?"

Thanks, Bored. I hope we can all just move along and get along.

SandwichQueen, that's what separates those of us who muse about suicide from those who actually do it. many of us have situational depression, which can be just as if not more painful than the chemical imbalance kind, and we muse about offing ourselves because it would spare us additional pain, and "stick it" to the people causing us pain. but then you realize it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

I wish you inner strength and peace, enough to withstand your mom's barbs. some people are just really insecure and evil and aren't happy if they're not denigrating someone else. they're like spiritual wampirs...they feed on your soul and energy. who knows what happened to her to cause her to become that way; I just hope you can come to a place where she can't affect you with her bullshit. you are strong and brave...you have made it thus far. peace.

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Submitted by boredasfuckyo on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 5:45pm

I am glad you were able to forgive your friend..I really am. But I can't forgive my Dad. And as hard as life gets, I'd never take my own life. I could stay in bed and cry for days, but I would never put anyone I care about through the pain and confusion that suicide brings. As hard as life seems to some people it is nothing compared to what people who are left behind have to go through. I don't want to go further in to this anymore. And I wish you and all of your friends the best in life.
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Well PHM, I will not sit here and judge you for not being able to forgive your father. However, I do hope you find peace and contentment with it, because you truly HAVE been through a lot, and deserve to be happy in life withouy that dark cloud cramping your style. No hate or shade from me. I mean that sincerely in that regard.

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Submitted by boredasfuckyo on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 5:45pm

I am glad you were able to forgive your friend..I really am. But I can't forgive my Dad. And as hard as life gets, I'd never take my own life. I could stay in bed and cry for days, but I would never put anyone I care about through the pain and confusion that suicide brings. As hard as life seems to some people it is nothing compared to what people who are left behind have to go through. I don't want to go further in to this anymore. And I wish you and all of your friends the best in life.

PHM, Jack-In-The-Hat, Spotted Dog Ranch, I truly feel sympathetic to whatever personal struggles you all have had to deal with, however I am sorry, that I refuse to be okay with people judging strangers for their own personal experiences that have nothing to do with them. No wait, I'm actually not sorry. I dislike judgement like this. My whole point was people judged this man based on whatever personal experiences they have had, and to me that is not fair. He didn't kill himself for any of the reasons any of you guys mentioned your loved ones took their own life or attempted to take your own. I never claimed to be an authority on mental illness, I never tried to rob anyone of their experiences, I merely said why judge this person based on it? I don't understand how me saying DON'T FUCKIN JUDGE is me being an authority. Everyone else seems like the authority. I will not roll over and be a good little girl, and drink the kool-aid because I actually have a conscience.
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"What if all you understand could fit into the center of a hand? And then you found it wasn't you, who held the sum of everything you knew?"

Since I read this article this morning, I've been thinking a lot about suicide being selfish.
Last week, my mother was drunk (again), and criticized EVERY single aspect of my life. Long story short, I do nothing right, she insists on taking over and controlling every aspect of my life, and I'm depressed as shit.
You know what, when I was thinking about suicide late that night, I WAS being selfish. It may not be the same for every person, but you know what, I DID put myself first. I wanted MY pain to stop, I don't give a shit how sad it might make my mother or other people, it generally feels like I'm doing everything else to make other people happy anyway so escaping it with death would be like doing myself a favour.
I'm sorry, it sounds horrible, and I would never accuse anyone else as being selfish for doing what they saw fit for themselves at the time, but I admit that I was being really self-centred in my thinking at that time. I'm a selfish cow, oh well. I can imagine people might start attacking me for saying all of this and admitting to my selfishness, but at least I'm being honest.
And if this man did have brain cancer as the reports are stating, and has young children, he was probably doing them a service by saving them from having to watch him die slowly over the course of their childhoods and living with those memories for the rest of their lives.

Submitted by SpottedDogRanch on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 5:43pm.

Bye Spotty! Try to feel better? I am so glad you shared your story today..you made me feel not alone and better *Hugs*

Submitted by SpottedDogRanch on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 5:43pm.

Bye Spotty! Try to feel better? I am so glad you shared your story today..you made me feel not alone and better *Hugs*

Good to talk to you PHM.
I wish you the best. ♥

Submitted by PrettyHateMachine on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 5:24pm.
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But the intent might not be. The thought process is not capable of seeing anything but darkness. Until you've been in that position, it will always be selfish in your eyes. You lost a father, and as a result chaos ensued. Had he not killed himself, things probably would not have gone down that path, and I get it. However....

I know what the thought process is. It is a very dark and lonely road. You could be in a crowd full of people, people who love you and need you, and you feel so completely lost and sad. Imagine a typical bad day for you and multiple that 10x, and now imagine living that day every single day for say 5 years. And there is no reason to be that way. You just constantly feel like something bad is gonna happen to you at any minute. Constant dark clouds, no hope for a better future. Not wanting things to get better, feeling like they can't, feeling like you're in a black box and no way to tunnel out. That's only one of many many reasons why someone might feel that way. I've not lost anyone to suicide. But I've been in and some of my friends have been in some pretty dark places. A good friend of mine confided in me that he didn't know if he could deal with his inner struggles, and I did what I had to do at the time to get him off that ledge. I would not let him leave. I told him how much I loved and needed him, and how much I would miss him. How much his family would miss him. Not once, however, did I think he was selfish for feeling the way he did, because I knew what kind of pain he was in.

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"What if all you understand could fit into the center of a hand? And then you found it wasn't you, who held the sum of everything you knew?"

Bored - Thank you for being reasonable and accepting and listening to my point of view. This thread brought up a lot of emotional feelings for me of which I tried to share. Some of this stuff wasn't easy to type. I hope you feel better about yourself now.

I'm sure you'll post some rant laden with a lot of profanity and call me some wonderful names. You can have the last word today.

If anything, I hope you take a good hard look in a mirror at yourself and see how you've interacted with people in this thread. Last time I checked, there wasn't ONE authority on mental illness in the world.

Fuck this place. I'm out.

Submitted by boredasfuckyo on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 5:32pm.

Don't rag on SDR. We've all had our own experiences with suicide. And we all deal in our own way. It's tragic enough to ever have to deal with it as it is. People should feel ashamed to be judging and pointing fingers. I'll never forgive my Dad..ever. It's just the way it is. And if you feel better forgiving someone who's done it..good for you. No two people are the same.

Submitted by jack-n-the-hat on Mon, 08/20/2012 - 11:43am.

So we are to assume he was fucking mentally ill?? Gimme a fucking break. Directing all of those movies and current shows with wife and kids and he is psychotic? I don't see it. IDK why, but just don't see a mental illness. He chose to GTFO the easy way, leaving behind his fucking KIDS to grow up without a father.... FUCKING SELFISH.

they say it's a fine line between genius and insanity. for example, the guy in "A Beautiful Mind" was a Nobel Prize winner and a paranoid schizophrenic.

He did what Don Cornelius did. They were given a bleak prognosis for their diseases. Being Type-A, in-control types, they took the initiative and took their lives. Shame but can't blame.