Karen Klein Does Not Accept Her Bullies' Apologies

This thread is a pile of "U GOT MAD" and I kind of love it but I won't read it or I'll tell some people how stupid they are. haha

Cookie monster -

You are creating a hostile environment here and I ask you to stop. There is no need for internet "shrieking" and name calling to get a point across. Thank you. :)

Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 7:13pm.

Are you seriously that dense??? We SAW kids being abused on the video, and it wasn't reported! Those kids were cursing, hitting and yelling and from what I saw, that old bat wasn't the only one sitting on the bus.

They created a HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT for EVERYONE, and she was getting PAID to make sure that stuff didn't happen!

I could give 2 fucks about her, help out those other kids on the bus!

Stoney, not only that, but I think this is inspiring people to not only give to Karen, but to donate to other causes. I see it in the comments on the donations page.

doncorleone> Wow, girl. Good for you!

I'm sorry, but the people who are upset about the money given to this lady are ridiculous. What's it to you? It's not your money. Why do you have a problem with a person who wants to donate a few dollars to a poor working class elderly lady? The fact that so much has been raised is really a testimony to the power of the internet to improve lives and do something good for a change. I think it's inspiring. This couldn't happen without the internet. So what if thousands of people around the world want to collectively give this lady their latte money? If they think she deserves it for having to work her crap job for a crap salary all her life, it's their fucking decision to make. And honestly, if I had to put up with half of the shit she probably deals with at work, I would do a piss poor job of it too. At some point the depression sets in and you don't give a fucking shit. If you are angry about this, you are either jealous of her windfall or ashamed that these kids reflect your own soulless monster inside. These kids grow up to be people like you.
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Anonymous 73 -

I totally agree - these situations never occur in a vacuum. I teach, my whole family teaches, and believe me, we all know everything about students, the information is out there. The administrators know also, so there is no way they are ignorant about these kids. Other people on this thread: Please do not tell me I do not know what I am talking about, because this is one area that I can safely say I do have knowledge. 2 of my cousins are principals, and they both say the administration, without exception, knows a lot about each students behavior and whatnot. If they don't, then they should not be an administrator.

by the way, anybody who's forming opinions about her powers as a bus monitor -- did you get on the Greece School District website to look at their disciplinary policies and procedures and staff disciplinary powers and limitations to get an, oh, i don't know, INFORMED, opinion of exactly what her school district had told/trained her to do in these situations?

no? i didn't think so. many of the answers to the shit that is being argued about is right in front of you if you look for it. i looked at it on Thursday

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

vegaschick...I'll bet both the school and the parents are well aware that these children are hell on wheels. This can't be the first incident of this sort that they've been involved in. It's not impossible, but I think it's improbable.
Kids don't just wake up one day and decide to be little buttholes...not to this extent.

I think I'm going to take a page from Karen's book and ignore a few people in here. WWKD? ;)

ETA: vegaschick...totally was not referring to you, btw!

Submitted by TexnDoc on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 3:07pm.

<"Submitted by ImpertinentVixen on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 2:56pm.">

still waiting for one of you to put up a link to a youtube or news article citing other children on the bus who claim to have been bullied while under Karen Klein's watch. where is one fucking revelation to support your speculative bullshit?

otherwise, shut the fuck up with your unsubstantiated guessing about what "probably" "might have" "likely" happened on that bus to other children prior to this incident. so far all that seems to be known is that she has said that failed to report it when SHE was harassed in the past. you do not know jack shit about whether she failed to report harassment of students.

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by doncorleone on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 5:22pm.
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*claps claps claps* for you, for Karen and all the people showing their support! ;p

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No one said she was a hero. at least not me, but she is a human being. You have every right to speak your opinion, but I find your words highly offensive and immature. You have been behaving like a bully yourself. I looked up the word way before now, to see what school policy says what constitutes bullying as compared to Websters, I simply remembered it so you do not need to act that way. Thank you.

and Cookie monster, I have defended your constitutional right to free speech in many of my posts. You have that right, and me saying that certainly is not bullying. You saying retard several times, however, is uncalled for so stop please. I have been nothing but polite and would like to have a polite debate.

Submitted by doncorleone on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 4:00pm.

No YOU are the bully, I didn't "constantly use the word retard", in fact I stopped after you mentioned your distaste of my use of the word.

YOU are bullying those that disagree with your opinion, which according to Webster's definition makes YOU the bully.

I want my 600K pronto.

Submitted by vegaschick on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 4:43pm.

THANK YOU. You expressed it succinctly and perfectly.

She wasn't doing her job, and is no hero. The money is not well deserved, and if these people want to toss their money at a problem, spend it mentoring kids and modeling good behavior.

Not rewarding a person who did a piss poor job at their employment.

I think everyone on here is making valid points, even if it's not coming across in the nicest way.

I actually do agree with Cookie Monster raising questions about this woman's ability to do her job. If she's paid to control and monitor the bus and she can't do so, then she is not qualified for the job. She said herself that other incidents have happened and she never reported it. So were there incidents of these boys bullying other children that didn't get reported as well?

Everyone is slamming the school and the parents, but if they were never made aware of the behavior, how were they supposed to correct it?

I get that this doesn't negate the boys' actions and we shouldn't slam the victim. However it takes a strong, authoritative adult to control kids nowadays. Kids know who they can fuck with and who they can't.

"She's seen in the video smirking, mocking and making faces, even taking part in the back-and-forth insulting."

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Where are you getting this from?!
You obviously did not watch the video.
She told them if they can't say anything nice, they shouldn't say anything at all. Where I come from, that's not an insult...in that I come from the planet Earth.

She was looking at her purse bc it says "Be remarkable" and "Integrity" on it! She was trying to find the strength to deal with the situation.

Seriously...READ THIS! Not once does she "insult" them. If she's OMG "making faces" it's because they are being VILE. Saying they are going to shit in her mouth? Cum on her?

http://lybio.net/tag/karen-klein-bus-monitor-bullied-by-vile-school-chil...

Read this and tell me that she somehow deserved the hell these little shits put her through! If you can still do that, I feel sorry for you.

Oh, btw, I donated money to Karen and have never bullied anyone in my life. Sorry to bust your theory.

doncorleone> For real!

Cookie monster -

I must speak up - you are now bullying people here. The habitual use of the word "retard" and the constant pestering of others here in a rude manner is bullying, according to the definition in Websters. Please stop now. I am standing up for myself as you want all people to do so, thus you should have no problem backing down. You are being an offensive bully. STOP. Thank you

Lislop, that is very true too. ITA, people need to need do their part at home AND demand action be taken at school too. Kids spend just as long with educators and schoolmates as they do at home so both are important, YES!

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Submitted by Anonymouse73 on Sat

Another psychology FAIL on your part, the Dr. Freud act is quite boring and TIRED at this point. Give it up.

You're just another one of the dull drones with a poor grasp of "common sense" ..that seems to be a disease in society these days!

So I'm a big bad uncaring meanie because I think giving this mentally-deficit bus monitor a million dollars for NOT DOING HER JOB- then hell yea, call me whatever you want.

I already stated those kids were fucked up, but she is no hero. She took that job obviously wanting to be bussed around town, playing with her purse and looking out the window. Some of us more intelligent folks can realize this is NOT being a "monitor" or even being an intelligent adult! She's seen in the video smirking, mocking and making faces, even taking part in the back-and-forth insulting. WTF does that? She could've shut those kids down a long time ago, but she CHOSE not to.

If you hate bullying then gather like-minded people together and create a fund that offers programs in your area.....donate to the Big Brother/Big Sister program....give to YMCA and offer to teach anti-bullying classes. The money thrown at this woman does NOTHING for society but eases your own guilt at the bullying YOU have done to someone in your youth. Nothing more.

I was looking at that indiegogo site and found tons more people that could use that money, just visit the Health section, I see a girl with cancer who needs a van to take her around, another mother of 4 who's raising money for a kidney transplant.

Now those are situations I can feel empathy for, not some brain-dead bus monitor who chose not to end a bad situation.

Submitted by WithinReason... on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 3:13pm.

$619,350! Message is loud and clear! F*ck bullies!! The fact that people are still donating shows this goes well beyond the single incident. Maybe all this attention will prompt some changes that will help protect kids against these little tyrants. Rather than concentrating on this case, everyone could demand that their local schools take some action! Think about it! ;)
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As someone here said, people donate because it empowers them.

Regarding your statement: "...everyone could demand that their local schools take some action!", I think schools do need to be held accountable, but it STARTS at home with the parents/caregivers, otherwise it's a losing battle. Parents who don't raise their children to have manners and respect, simply pass the buck to the schools. Then when the school tries to step in, the parents will threaten, sue or fight the school. Bottom line: it starts at home.

Comment from the fundraising (my typo was "fuckraising" LOL!) site:

"Steve said 4 minutes ago

Been watching this since the first day and can not believe the support being shown. This is proof that the world is a wonderful place full of kind hearted people."

My little hippie heart is loving this.

lislop...believe me, that is something I am actively working on developing in myself and with which I struggle all the time - in situations like this, especially. It doesn't come naturally!

I know what it's like to feel empathy, so...I sort of do feel sorry for people who are missing out on that. It's a sad, sort of unpleasant, feeling, but it's what makes us human...being able to put ourselves in someone else's shoes. These kids...what miserable lives they are going to have...
You're right...a lot of people don't look inwardly. It's "uncomfortable" and you have to face a lot of things about yourself you'd rather not. I'll bet these darling children have all the latest technological advances, though. It's made them empty inside and desensitized. Mom and dad probably ignore them, too. They act up to get attention b/c you can't hug an iPod.

Submitted by Cookie_Monster_ on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 2:42pm.

OMG. What most of you nitwits are failing to realize is she wasn't doing her job and causing a danger for the other kids on the bus! Her "monitoring" was complete bullshit, I'm sure other kids get picked on that bus from the bully crowd and she does nothing about it!

All I saw is a video of some retard getting picked on by other retards and then a bunch of retards gave her a bunch of money because they're in pain about their own retard memories.

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Submitted by Anonymouse73 on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 3:06pm.
I'm honestly saddened that some people are so blinded by their own pain that they can't see the same pain in others. It's like you're mad that she didn't stick up for herself enough b/c you are actually mad at yourself for not sticking up for YOU enough. Projecting...
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Anonymouse73, you're actually more compassionate than I am, because I don't feel sorry for any of the people here who seem to be projecting their own anger at having been bullied, towards this elderly woman. Why? Because they're the SAME people who will walk into a school and raise hell when their kid is called out. They refuse to take responsiblity for raising a child with no manners, no empathy and no respect. The reason they can't raise a child with those values is because it's possible the adult doesn't exhibit those behaviors. Accepting responsiblity for their child's behavior would mean looking inward and some people don't want to do that.

If you've looked at the video I've attached (same as earlier one) you can clearly hear them calling her fat, saying they'll cum in her mouth, etc., The point is that if you raise your children with manners, empathy and compassion, they will NOT engage in this animal-like behavior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l93wAqnPQwk

@doncorleone:

anytime. peace and love.

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$619,350! Message is loud and clear! F*ck bullies!! The fact that people are still donating shows this goes well beyond the single incident. Maybe all this attention will prompt some changes that will help protect kids against these little tyrants. Rather than concentrating on this case, everyone could demand that their local schools take some action! Think about it! ;)

*million... million... million...*

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And honestly? I'm not exactly sure what people expected this woman to do. If she had laid one finger on them, she would have been sued...although I cannot imagine this lady even doing that. If she had screamed at them, it would have just escalated since they are acting like a pack of jackals. She would have been the gazelle. And the comment about her kids killing themselves is probably the most HATEFUL thing anyone can say to another person. Can you imagine trying to recover your composure after that, much less confront the person saying it? I'm sure that if she heard it, it floored her. I frankly fucking LOVE that there are 30k people out there who have felt so much compassion and love for one person that they are donating and sending her kind comments. It really restores my faith in mankind.

doncorleone> AGREED! I wanted to stay out of it, but felt I had to at least say *something* b/c it felt ilke the right thing to do.

Salmanella -

You are 100% correct, I just get mad only at myself for even reading comments. And to others on this thread: I only blame myself if I get upset. SEE I TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS.

Submitted by doncorleone on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 2:58pm.
I have remained civil and would enjoy a healthy, intelligent debate, so let me know when that happens please. We live in America, where freedom of speech reigns thankfully. I would enjoy debating you in a mature matter. Thank you.
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well said. Unfortunately, you may not get the same respectful debating in return. This is precisely why I've tried to stay out of this thread. People are quick to judge and forget that sometimes in the moment of being surrounded by hostility and hate it isn't always simple to shut it down. She is the same age as my Mother and probably with the same passive understated personality. If this happened to my Mom, I would want others to view the situation with compassionate eyes rather than turn it around and say she needed to fight fire with fire. It doesn't always work that way.

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Agree with you. If she was just going to sit there and be their whipping post, they would have been better off with her not there at all. She even said "well, they got worse every day". Well, duh, lady. Because you let them. Thanks. A 68 year old impaired grandmother on a bus of rotten middleschoolers is ridiculous.

gucci -

Thank you for your extremely kind words, I really do appreciate it. Bless you. :)

@doncorleone:

Maybe Michael K. has not posted anything on Sandusky because just as some people here blame Karen, maybe they would also say "well the kids should have fought back" or "the kids should have taken control of the situation.
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nope, we're pretty much in the same boat in regards to relentlessly tearing up molsters around here. But i hear what you're saying about teaching and what these kids can put you through. i myself was going into teaching but after two weeks in a classroom at a school in my neighborhood, i decided that it wasn't for me. i mean these kids are terrible and although my patience level is high for the most part, i know i would have lost it eventually. Hats off to you and "nuff" respect to all teachers everywhere.

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Yes, the "retard" verbal diarrhea needs to stop. It's like using the n word.
Also, I'm not sure what video you were watching, CM, but in no way was this woman "egging on" her abuse.

"Or are you not getting the point that other CHILDREN were probably bullied on the bus because of her ineptitude? "

"Probably"? That's not enough to convict her of not doing her job. Unless you have proof of this, it's best not to cast aspersions. In what way is she NOT a victim of cruel abuse? Realizing this fact does not mean that "everyone" is a victim. I'm honestly saddened that some people are so blinded by their own pain that they can't see the same pain in others. It's like you're mad that she didn't stick up for herself enough b/c you are actually mad at yourself for not sticking up for YOU enough. Projecting...
I was bullied, too, and I'm not "livid" in the slightest. You don't speak for all of us. All I feel is sympathy for this lady. That's not being a cry baby. It's being empathetic.

I have remained civil and would enjoy a healthy, intelligent debate, so let me know when that happens please. We live in America, where freedom of speech reigns thankfully. I would enjoy debating you in a mature matter. Thank you.

Typical BS in here from crybabies who think everyone is a "victim." Please. This woman does not deserve the money, nor to be lauded for NOT DOING HER JOB (the point), nor to be supported for not REPORTING SAID ABUSE (again, the point).

Or are you not getting the point that other CHILDREN were probably bullied on the bus because of her ineptitude? Which makes those of us who were bullied LIVID that this woman doesn't do her J. O. fucking B.!!!!!!!!!!

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cookie monster -

Your continuous use of "retard" is fucking offensive because I have 4 family members who are mentally challenged, and I am trying to remain civil, but your choice of words just shows your ignorance. Please stop now. There - I stood up for myself so you should be happy and now BE QUIET. Thank you.

gucci -

Maybe Michael K. has not posted anything on Sandusky because just as some people here blame Karen, maybe they would also say "well the kids should have fought back" or "the kids should have taken control of the situation." Blaming the victim seems par for the course for some people here. And NO, I am not saying teachers are saints for fuck sake, I just mistakenly thought if I explained my teaching and school experiences some people might experience an apparently foreign concept called EMPATHY. I am a teacher, not a saint. I love teaching and it is soooo easy for those who are not to say "why didn't they just....." and I am sick of it. This is one area where I know more than some. Thanks, some of you, for your incredibly kind and supportive words, I mean it from the bottom of my heart, you guys make my profession worth it. Bless you. But I'm out of here, I cannot read some of this stomach turning bullshit anymore. And no, I don't want pity,so don't even go there. I want understanding, but whatever. Goodbye and peace out. :)

Sorry, last comment. I've noticed that some of the people who have stated Karen's to blame also admit to having been bullied. One of the things we know about children/adults who've been abused, is that they go on to be abusers themselves. No, I'm not saying you're abusers, but it certainly makes me see how the circle of abuse/bullying continues. Does abuse correlate with bullying? For ex., I've been bullied because I didn't defend myself/nobody defended me, so she deserves it because she didn't defend herself. I can see how the cycle continues if we don't put a stop to it, because it's WRONG (period!), irrespective of our personal experiences.

I've been a teacher for several years. I've always worked with the "problem" students. I've taught in juvenile prisons, in drop out prevention...the worst job I've ever had by far was in a self contained middle school classroom of EBD students (emotionally / behaviorally disadvantaged). Most of the kids simply had no self control, and no limits. Most, but not all, also had parents who were complete enablers. In my experience, the only middle school buses that have monitors are the buses that carry the EBD kids. They are self contained, like the classrooms (meaning that, other than lunch, PE and maybe something like chorus, the kids all stay together in one room, away from the other students.) Maybe no one can come out and say for legal reasons because they are minors, but that may very well be the situation in this case.

I agree largely with Karen Flatts. The situation on that bus did not develop in a vacuum. If you are going to work successfully in that environment, the kids have to know who is boss from the beginning, through the middle, till the end. They must know first of all that you care about them, and second, that you will take no crap whatsoever from them. Whoever put her in that job was either an idiot, or trying to get rid of her.

Vapidlush, I'm sorry that you had that awful and obviously scarring experience with that bitch of a teacher, which has obviously put you off teachers for life. I never would have done that to you, or allowed it to be done to you. Just saying.

Submitted by Cookie_Monster_ on Sat, 06/23/2012 - 3:54am.

Second, what kind of "monitor" was she? It's clear she wasn't actively monitoring anything, but rather, lounging around looking out the window.

Thirdly, it didn't seem she was crying at all. She kept smiling at them, sneering and almost egging it on. Now let me preface I am NOT saying she deserved that treatment. I'd fuck those kids up so bad they'd be eating their meals through a straw for the rest of their lives.

But it didn't seem she was crying. She almost enticed them to keep it up by not stopping it. Get up, stop the bus, demand something be done. Call their parents, hell I'd get off the bus with them and walk to their house! Call the cops!

I'd also like to know how this video was leaked and how the guy running the fundraiser saw it.

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Cookie Monster, since you wanted to see her crying. Below is a 10 minute video. At about 1:22, a kid taunts her because he's seeing tears running down her face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l93wAqnPQwk

Lounging??Egging them on?? What?? Some people here are saying she should have defended herself, well in this video it shows that she did try to tell them to be kind.

IF ANY person here doubted that parents/guardians will not defend this kind of animal-like behavior (saying they're going to cum in her mouth?!) all you have to do is read the comments on this board. There are so many people here who have somehow tried to justify, explain that she was to blame. These are the SAME type of lame arguments parents give to excuse their children's behavior. Yes, they behaved poorly BUT ... They try to blame the victim. This gives a lot of credence to those who work in schools and have seen parents in action. Parent who will sue or fight schools even when they're provided with lock-down proof that their kids are assholes. Don't doubt their claims because we're seeing it here on this board. So not only do schools have to teach students, but they have to deal with parents who don't want to take responsibility for not teaching/showing their kids common, decent human behavior.

Btw, she's there to protect the other children, not herself. Perhaps she did not want to show vulnerability in front of the GOOD children while the little nasty children were assaulting her. I think she was trying to play it cool (and also could not hear some of what they said) like it didn't bother her. Plus she seems to have a pretty positive outlook, anyway...saying that the kids individually aren't bad, just when they are in a group...that people should not be sending death threats to the families...even though most of us want to string them up by their toes. She doesn't accept their lame apologies, but she's not calling for revenge, either. Seems like a nice lady who doesn't want to create Drama and who chooses to see the good side of people. I
think that's why she didn't defend herself more. Doesn't make what they did right and doesn't mean she wasn't "doing her job" b/c it's not about her, it's about the other children and perhaps she realized that.

p.s. - I read that she is considering donating a portion of the funds to autism and downs syndrome research

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1. Karen did not ask for a hand-out. Someone else who empathized with her situation started the fund. I hope she receives every penny and uses it so that she can spend the rest of her life in comfort.

2. Did she deserve to be treated like shit because two assholes acted like animals, and preyed on her weakness? No!!! People who've never worked at schools have no idea the extent parents will go to, to defend their children. I'm not surprised to hear she was afraid to report them.

3. If you're going to apply the "blame the victim" mentality then do you blame yourself for EVERY incident that happens to you in life? A co- worker or a kid treats you poorly, then it's your fault because you didn't stick up for yourself.

4. People have a right to respect simple decent behavior from one another, such as: please, thank you, etc. It's usually the small gestures that make a huge difference. I'm sure those children are just like their parents. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree."

Yes to all of this! Exactly!
And to the sour grapes people: can't you be happy that something good came out of this? I, too, was tortured by other students my entire school career...I don't expect to get a pay-out for it. *shrug* Let the woman enjoy her lottery. She was making $15k a YEAR before. I say to her, live it up, love! People are going to donate as they wish. Be glad there are still good people out there.

One more thought: the woman is 68-years-old and she probably felt vulnerable next to the two vicious bulldogs. She had no idea if they were going to hit her at any moment. Some elderly people are hellraisers, but most aren't.
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One more thought: the woman is 68-years-old and she probably felt vulnerable next to the two vicious bulldogs. She had no idea if they were going to hit her at any moment. Some elderly people are hellraisers, but most aren't.

Mike why haven't you posted anything on Sandusky's ass being convicted? i know it isn't celeb news but i know most of us dlisters would have a ball telling him he'll be someone's bitch in prison for the rest of his life. come on MK post something!

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I saw video of the one of the fathers apologising to her and it seemed genuine to me. She also asked how they were holding up, which i think speaks volumes about her character.

I do not understand why some on here are 'upset' that she has had so much support donation wise. Just because you were bullied as a kid means she can't be supported today? Sour grapes.

1. Karen did not ask for a hand-out. Someone else who empathized with her situation started the fund. I hope she receives every penny and uses it so that she can spend the rest of her life in comfort.

2. Did she deserve to be treated like shit because two assholes acted like animals, and preyed on her weakness? No!!! People who've never worked at schools have no idea the extent parents will go to, to defend their children. I'm not surprised to hear she was afraid to report them.

3. If you're going to apply the "blame the victim" mentality then do you blame yourself for EVERY incident that happens to you in life? A co- worker or a kid treats you poorly, then it's your fault because you didn't stick up for yourself.

4. People have a right to respect simple decent behavior from one another, such as: please, thank you, etc. It's usually the small gestures that make a huge difference. I'm sure those children are just like their parents. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

i wonder if they will raise a $1 million for her.

well since Karen Flatts and some of the rest of you just can not seem to stop shitting on her, i guess this officially makes Karen Klein awesome.

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Submitted by vapidlush on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 10:18pm.

I agree with a few of you that she should have used her authority, whatever that was as a bus monitor, to shut this down.

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vapidlush, I agree 100% with your entire statement. Kids can be awful and those boys should absolutely be punished. However I also get the vibe that Karen is a big pushover who has probably spent her entire life being treated like shit. It doesn't mean she deserved that awful treatment, but a half mil is ridiculous. If anything that bus monitor in Florida who whooped the kid's ass when he acted up should have gotten half a mil.

I remember being picked on in school and running home crying. I wanted my parents to do something. My mother told me if I didn't learn to stand up for myself in life, no one else was going to do it for me. The next day I turned the tables on the bully and I never got picked on again (ironically me and him ended up being good friends).

I'm going to have to agree with Karen Flatts here, cuntress or no. She did not report it before. She is a bus monitor not doing her job. That does NOT excuse the little bastards meanly fucking with her. But it also does NOT automatically follow that this timid woman should get a payday. Speaking as one who was bullied as a child, if this woman was the only thing standing between me and bullies, I would not feel very comfortable. There is no requirement for working within a school system to understand this situation. She should have reported it and did not. She also could not/would not deal with the situation using her own mouth. That is inexcusable.

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