More Details About The Death Of Whitney Houston
The autopsy on Whitney Houston's body will happen sometime today and we probably won't know her official cause of death until those toxicology reports come back (everything I learned about autopsies and toxicology reports, I learned from Dr. G and TMZ), but TMZ has put their tiny camera on the back of their trained fly and sent it into Whitney's room at the Beverly Hilton to find out what happened yesterday afternoon.
Their source says that Whitney always took Xanax before a big performance to help numb her nerves a bit. Whitney was supposed to sing at Clive Davis' pre-Grammy party last night and so she took a few Xanax. Then she decided to take a bath while her hairdresser, stylist and two bodyguards were in the next room. Whitney's team realized she was in the tub for a long time and so her stylist knocked on the door. There was no answer, so her stylist went into her bathroom and found her unconscious. Whitney's face was completely underwater and it looked like she had slid under after falling asleep. The stylist called for one of Whitney's bodyguards and he pulled her out of the tub, but it was too late. Kevin Costner, you had one job to do and you let us all down!
Radar says that none of the bad shit was found in Whitney's room, but they did find Lorazepam, Valium, Xanax and some sleeping medication. Of course, none of this has been confirmed and it's only information whispered into TMZ's ears as a manila envelope filled with a stack of cash passed under the table.
As for Bobby Brown's ass, he found out about Whitney's death a few hours before a New Edition show in Mississippi. Bobby B went on anyway and after he got on stage, he said "I love you, Whitney" as he pointed at the ceiling. Meanwhile, as Bobby B was performing with New Edition, his daughter Bobbi Kristina was in L.A., but she wasn't in the same room as her mom.
And the Grammys will have a tribute to Whitney during tonight's show. JHud and Chaka Khan will each sing something. My dream of Cousin Dionne taking the stage tonight to curse us all out for this is not going to happen. Dionne Warwick is inconsolable and is with the entire Houston family today.
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"What did people do 100 or even 200 years ago when loved ones passed or bad times occured? I am not trying to fault people for using meds to get them through these things but to me it just seems like we just cant take what life throws at us nowadays."
Took to their beds. Killed themselves. I don't think people took it any less hard that long ago, they just didn't have indoor plumbing and that kind of thing. As to mourning, in this country at least people used to mourn a hell of a lot longer than they do now.
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I have a history of PTSD and anxiety (now, it is well under control thank the lawd and too many hours in CBT!)....but anyway, one time a took an Ativan and forgot I took it, took another one 2.5 hours later with a mild pain killer, took a shower and nearly passed out. Luckily, you cannot drown yourself in a shower. - at least not that I know of!!
It doesn`t surprise me when I hear this, especially when dr.s prescribe anxiety meds AND sleep aids. Two types of sedatives are bad fucking news.
I am not anti-meds though, I know so many people who would literally be fucked (certainly with illnesses like schizophrenia)without modern-day meds. You just have to be careful. And, of course, if anyone is suspect of being suicidal, these types of meds should never be prescribed....physicians, like people, make mistakes here and celebs seem to get whatever they want.
xanax overdoses are generally not fatal by themselves or any other benzodiazepine for that matter. But when mixed with other medications or alcohol, you increase the risk.
and if you had to pick what it's closest to, it's not weed. it'd be more like freeze-dried alcohol in a pill.
god, I love pharmacology.
Today my almost-11-year-old daughter triumphantly fished out a rumpled food-stained National Enquirer issue from June 13, 2011 which had an article about Whitney battling deadly emphysema. Of course it could be bullshit, but now that she's dead one has to wonder...
All the comments on MK's system being unable to handle the load made me giggle. MK would never turn down a good time if it could be done to his "system."
*gongs self and tiptoes out snickering*
Hey IrishFury, I'm glad you survived childhood and are here full of life, I enjoy your posts.
And Satan, you should check out Whitney's "Battle Hymn of the Republic"
Submitted by Gaby on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:27pm.
Here's a juicy tidbit for you both! Years ago I worked at an entertainment company and worked in those areas, as well as Willowbrook, Lincolnshire, etc (the 630 & 847 crowds). What my company did was provide the entertainment at bar/bat mitzvahs and occasional weddings (an event total might run around 30-40K easy and the high end was 80-100K). In that area, most of the hubbies work, own a business or whatever, while the wives stay at home, and everyone knows everyone. While it looks nice from the outside, trust that there is some beyond scary shit that goes on behind closed doors. I've been inside several of those homes and more often than not, mom is super thin and coked, dad is tubby and has a mistress. Not to mention how many of the couples swing, it's just a really bizarre environment and makes you realize that money really isn't everything. I'd rather work and be normal any day! Trust.
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Oh. I trust. I live in Indy and there is a suburb near here where lots of our friends live. We always joke that there should be a "Real Housewives of (that) County" bc we know which bitches they should sign up. They're almost all stay at home moms, who drink all day while their hubbies earn the money, except one woman (our best friend) who is the sole bacon-bringer in the household, and her hubby is a stay at home dad who is an excellent father and stepfather, who gets the kids to all their events. The other wives don't trust this wife, bc she doesn't have to depend on a man like they do. We know of affairs, open marriages, bisexuality, alcoholism, and I'm sure if we know all that there's a SHIT TON we don't know. So all you big cities think you got it goin' on? Don't every count out the Midwest. Just 'cause you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.
Submitted by lelu on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 7:36pm.
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If I have to hear "I am you, you are me" or "Sun in the sky" one more time....
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Afuckingmen. "Sun in the sky, you know how I feeeel..."
w. t. f. ?? what does that have to do with fucking weight loss? Jennifer Hudson is just becoming fucking annoying. Go away.
Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:02pm.
None of those meds kill you. You would seriously have to swallow 500 xanax to drop dead.
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I dunno, depends on your system. I had a scary moment after one day of taking an antidepressant, a couple of novocaine shots at the dentist, a birth control pill, some wine at dinner, and several aspirin before bed for a bad headache. All of them legal and within reasonable amounts. But I woke up in the middle of the night shivering, raced to the bathroom and vomited and instead passed out on the bathroom floor. Got back up, into bed and shivered with stomach spasms all night. Stupid that I didn't go to the doctor. I was uninsured and young so I let it pass. Now that I'm older and have a child I'd go to the ER. Plus I'm more careful now about mixing shit, even relatively harmless sounding stuff.
Xanax and lorazepam are both benzos and slow the respitory system down. If taken in excess and especially with alcohol it would slow down your breathing and knock your ass out. My dad abused Xanax for years and I watched him go to sleep in a plate of spaghetti and my mom was so pissed she left him there hoping he would suffocate (I think). Point is it could happen.
This news hit me hard.
What a scary thought that you can be so drugged up or drunk that you can literally drown to death in a bathtub.
I re-watched Whitney's singing of the National Anthem and it made me cry. Such a stellar voice.
Is that real fur? SHAME! Are we really that shocked about her death? Poor lady was hooked on drugs for at least 20 years.
Submitted by Bossy on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 9:14pm.
Meant to say this earlier: I'm all for the Whitney Houston thing but WTF, did Etta James die a few days too early for anyone to now give a fuck or what? BS! The woman was a legend and wasn't a huge druggie fuck up. I guess you can't play by the rules or die of natural causes if you want people to give a damn.
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I think age is a big factor as well. For someone to die in their 70's or 80' is not usually that 'schocking'. The train wreck factor is a big part too.
Aw, IF. I'm not judging you for your tennis and car. It's just the people that go around acting like total assholes and like they think they're better than everyone else that I have a problem with.
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Meant to say this earlier: I'm all for the Whitney Houston thing but WTF, did Etta James die a few days too early for anyone to now give a fuck or what? BS! The woman was a legend and wasn't a huge druggie fuck up. I guess you can't play by the rules or die of natural causes if you want people to give a damn.
I think she forgot how to take a bath. RIP Whitney.
Submitted by Gaby on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:27pm.
I believe it. Nasty isn't it?
OT: Still sad... :(
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"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK
Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 4:14pm.
Submitted by Bree on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 4:11pm.
I have heard of vets giving Valium, but Xanax is a first. I cannot imagine a dog on Xanax because the dude I knew was SCARY on it.
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I think people are confused about what Xanax is. No one is scary on it. It's like very, very mild weed. It will just chill you out a little and make you less anxious. You don't get some big high, and you can't OD on it. It leaves the body quickly and poses no health hazard.
Submitted by IrishFury on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:21pm
Hahahaha!
Anyway, wish I'd known you were heading out to Cancun last week. Have some good friends there. But anyway, you had a good time & that's what counts. ;)
"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK
Submitted by WithinReason... on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 6:39pm.
Submitted by Twat Muffin on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 6:26pm.
Here's a juicy tidbit for you both! Years ago I worked at an entertainment company and worked in those areas, as well as Willowbrook, Lincolnshire, etc (the 630 & 847 crowds). What my company did was provide the entertainment at bar/bat mitzvahs and occasional weddings (an event total might run around 30-40K easy and the high end was 80-100K). In that area, most of the hubbies work, own a business or whatever, while the wives stay at home, and everyone knows everyone. While it looks nice from the outside, trust that there is some beyond scary shit that goes on behind closed doors. I've been inside several of those homes and more often than not, mom is super thin and coked, dad is tubby and has a mistress. Not to mention how many of the couples swing, it's just a really bizarre environment and makes you realize that money really isn't everything. I'd rather work and be normal any day! Trust.
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"Joe Perry, you are a man of many colors. But I, motherfucker, am the rainbow!”~Steven Tyler
True, WithinReason and we're not even "money" people anyway, but we do ok and have no debt other than a mortgage and my never ending student loan.
When I was a small, relentlessly sad Fury, if someone had told me I'd be with a man who wouldn't dream of calling me a name, nevermind beating me to within an inch of my life, and I would have happy, well-rounded kids and a couple nice material things thrown in, I'd never have believed it. But here I am and am eternally grateful and I've never forgotten to give back to women and kids who need what I needed but never got. It's actually such a pleasure to do so!
My favorite meal is still a cheese salad sammich with fries so if I get fancier, I'll know I've sold out!
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Submitted by IrishFury on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:10pm.
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Amen IF, amen.
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:14pm.
Yes, I didn't want to lock myself out in case MK, had any settings that would lock you out for trying over and over. I restarted and cleared my cache & was able to get back on. I think news about Whitney have genuinely brought a lot more people on. It could happen to anyone, though! It's good news MK has this many users, but don't want your webserver crashing either! :)
"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK
Submitted by WithinReason... on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:06pm.
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:01pm.
Actually, I can sympathize, but when you have this many users, you need to check system can handle the load. Sorry MK, but starting to notice a bit of server lag, here. Hope you can get it worked out! Getting withdrawl symptoms here when I can't log in, hahahahaha ;P
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I kept getting some weird message asking me to log into my settings.
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Submitted by IrishFury on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:10pm.
But no one would hold this against you IF. It's the A-holes who just throw it in your face and go overboard with ostentatiousness! hhheehehhe. Ok, I'll stop now! ;)
"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK
Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:02pm.
None of those meds kill you. You would seriously have to swallow 500 xanax to drop dead.
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Hate to disagree with you, those meds CAN and DO kill people. It all depends on your system and what it can handle. I had a friend who killed himself on less than a handful of pills. He was not in bad health or an addict. It takes far less than 500 pills.
I play a lot of tennis and I drive a "fancy"
car.
My mom also died when I was 5; I watched her disintegrate from the age of 1 - lost both her breasts, her kidney and the tumors in her brain made her go blind and untimately, she had dementia from it. She died at 43, leaving behind a 12, 11, 9, 7 and 5 year old who were all badly badly abused by our father for well over a decade. All 5 of us have attempted (rather poorly, I suppose) suicide. All with depression.
Anyway, I'm just saying the woman with the custom made racquet who is driving off in a Benz may not be quite who you think she is.
(Of course, she could also be a dumb Irish slore with a fury problem, but it's just that you never know :) )
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Submitted by Dog on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 8:01pm.
Actually, I can sympathize, but when you have this many users, you need to check system can handle the load. Sorry MK, but starting to notice a bit of server lag, here. Hope you can get it worked out! Getting withdrawl symptoms here when I can't log in, hahahahaha ;P
"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK
Please show me where I accused you of being an alt. Even if I did, it was doubtlessly deserved. you should be able to take it based upon how you live to dish it out. even if you aren't a troll, you certainly don't think twice before attacking other posters. You're always on the attack and acting like you need a fucking diaper change. Smells like a troll to me, you just don't get called out because you play nice with the regs.
Whatever.
None of those meds kill you. You would seriously have to swallow 500 xanax to drop dead. Look dudes 48 year olds dont just drop dead, just like 39 year old men (Corey Haim) dont just drop dead and just like 32 year old girls (B. Murphy) dont just drop dead. I bet she either committed suicide or she died of heart failure as a result of years of drug abuse. Just like winehouse. I mean fuck, she's been doing crack and cocaine for the past 20 years.
I want to feel sorry for her, I want to feel bad ofr her but really, she had more than one opportunity to turn her life upside down. I mean she had tons of money and access to the best rehab centers, she didnt HAVE to stay with an abusive man - not like she was financially dependent and destitute - she was lucky that unlike many people n her position, she had all those resources available to her to get the help she needs. But she didnt. She blew it. If she didnt have all that money she'd probably be dead for a decade now.
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Submitted by WithinReason... on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 7:59pm.
What's up with your site MK! Keep hanging and can't load the page! Actually I understand all too well. Need to get your admins to upgrade the server! ;)
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Ever since we got word of Whitney's death, this site has been jacked!
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What's up with your site MK! Keep hanging and can't load the page! Actually I understand all too well. Need to get your admins to upgrade the server! ;)
"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK
Submitted by tonicbitch on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 7:16pm.
Twat - yup, that sounds like the Willowbrook Dominicks and Target crowd. You know what's funny is the people that I know personally who actually are "somebodys" don't go around acting flashy or advertising it because they don't WANT the extra attention...
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Exactly, No need to rub it in everyone's faces ffs! :P Classless... Hope this offends no one, but I just can't with people like that!!! hahhaa *takes deep breath* :P
"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK
DP, site has been shitting its pants all day .
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The one thing I liked about Whitney is that you never heard her shitting all over the current artists out a la Madonna. Kelly Rowland was just on E! Red Carpet saying that the first time she had met Whitney was when Destiny's Child first came out and they were in a lobby of a hotel, and she greeted them singing one of their songs.
Hey Dog, why are you such a fucking asshole? You attacked me for no reason. We've never even spoken with each other to my knowledge and you feel the need to call me an idiot and shit? STFU dumbass. If I laid into you for every post you made that I thought was fucking stupid, I'd have to quit my job and make a full time career out of it. I just ignore you - til now, after reading your unnecessary attack on me.
Funny as HELL how I was just reading you go on and on about what a nicer, better, and "less judgmental" person you are now compared to earlier in your life in a post you wrote a few days ago. I'd hate to see how bad you used to be.
Submitted by LunaChick on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 6:57pm.
When will doctors be held responsible for providing celebs with a dangerous cocktail of Rx medications?
Ativan, Valium, Xanax *and* sleeping medication? There is no way one person should have all those meds.
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I'm surprised any doctor would prescribe a self-admitted user all of those Rx meds.
Submitted by Heroic Cupcake on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 7:30pm.
I guess your Altzheimers is kicking in. You most certainly HAVE "acknowledged" me by accusing me of being an alt. Several times.
As far as who I am or how I post, you can sit down now. Read back and read what you said. You all but stated that Whitney's death was for ratings.
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Submitted by IrishFury on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 6:06pm.
Chaka will do a great job as always.
JHud will ruin whatever song she sings by belting out every note she possibly can, in the same vein as Xtina, all while holding her body in such a way as to appear as thin as possible. Might even slip in a Jenny Craig reference if she can.
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If I have to hear "I am you, you are me" or "Sun in the sky" one more time....
Hey Dog, why are you such a fucking asshole? You attacked me for no reason. We've never even spoken with each other to my knowledge and you feel the need to call me an idiot and shit? STFU dumbass. If I laid into you for every post you made that I thought was fucking stupid, I'd have to quit my job and make a full time career out of it. I just ignore you - til now, after reading your unnecessary attack on me.
Funny as HELL how I was just reading you go on and on about what a nicer, better, and "less judgmental" person you are now compared to earlier in your life in a post you wrote a few days ago. I'd hate to see how bad you used to be.
Hey Dog, why are you such a fucking asshole? You attacked me for no reason. We've never even spoken with each other to my knowledge and you feel the need to call me an idiot and shit? STFU dumbass. If I laid into you for every post you made that I thought was fucking stupid, I'd have to quit my job and make a full time career out of it. I just ignore you - til now, after reading your unnecessary attack on me.
Funny as HELL how I was just reading you go on and on about what a nicer, better, and "less judgmental" person you are now compared to earlier in your life in a post you wrote a few days ago. I'd hate to see how bad you used to be.
Hey Dog, why are you such a fucking asshole? You attacked me for no reason. We've never even spoken with each other to my knowledge and you feel the need to call me an idiot and shit? STFU dumbass. If I laid into you for every post you made that I thought was fucking stupid, I'd have to quit my job and make a full time career out of it. I just ignore you - til now, after reading your unnecessary attack on me.
Funny as HELL how I was just reading you go on and on about what a nicer, better, and "less judgmental" person you are now compared to earlier in your life in a post you wrote a few days ago. I'd hate to see how bad you used to be.
Twat- LMAO! I totally believe it!
I'm still so stunned you and Tonic are so close!
Twat - yup, that sounds like the Willowbrook Dominicks and Target crowd.
You know what's funny is the people that I know personally who actually are "somebodys" don't go around acting flashy or advertising it because they don't WANT the extra attention. They are usually very busy people and just want to go about getting shit done. Like one guy I know who is a CEO and he and his wife are completely normal, I run into them at Target sometimes and you would never in a million years guess who he is or what he does. I've also found that a lot of the flashy bitches like you described (some, not all) are total poseurs :)
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Hey, we need a pick me up, and what better way to do that then look at a "high fashion" DERP face:
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/208851/slide_208851_683933_larg...
Submitted by louise_brooks on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 6:59pm.
Tonic- I just looked him up and I don't think so. Whole Foods hairband man is rock star skinny. James Young looks a little fuller in the face.
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is it time for him to get some more work done??
Jesus,. what the hell did he do to his face?? He looks like Mickey Rourke. I saw him backsstage a couple yrs ago at Def Leppard/Styx/REO and he looked like hammered shit.
Louise & tonicbitch -- I was at Dominick's yesterday (63rd & 83) and I was behind this stupid-ass fish-eyed twat in her post-Pilates work-out gear, flashing her massive diamond ring. She thought she was so cute, she wasn't -- bitch was so fucking ugly. AnyHOO, she's standing there, lazy as all fuck, couldn't even be bothered to put the spacer bar between our orders, I had to lean over on tippy toe, practically falling over to put the spacer bar down. And then the stupid twat was bitching that the cashier charged her a dollar too much on her stupid fucking organic milk. And then, after the bagging dude bagged her shit in plastic bags, she had him take everything out and put it in the decrepit green bag she brought with her. Ya stupid whore, you should have told them this BEFOREHAND!!!! She probably got into her stupid fucking Range Rover which seems to be a requisite in these parts. FUCK!!!
WithinReason -- oh, you have to see these fucks, they really are something!!!
Well I will keep an eye out, if I ever see him I should ask for his autograph and report back :)
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I am really sad to read all these stories of parental loss. I am blessed to still have my parents here at my age of 50. They're 81 and 80 now. But my brother is 59 and he's in stage four renal cell cancer. I need to get home to him, and them. I miss them all so much. Goddamn airfares are so high, and I don't make jack shit at my fuckhole job. But you all have made me realize how lucky I truly am to still have my family with me. Thank you.