All Hail The Second Coming

I'm not really interested in having kids at all (I'm female). So, this surrogate thing doesn't interest me a whole lot. Except the possibility of her faking a pregnancy is highly amusing to me.

Read all the comments. Here are some general responses:

Some of you had fantastic experiences, great, I'm sincerely happy for you. My mother married young and had me young, 20, and she also had your wonderful genes so she bounced back into size tiny in a day. That's not going to be me though. My father's genes have dominated and they are not as fantastic. I've gained a shitload of weight due to emotional reasons and it's not fun losing it. I'm doing great but I'm not going to do it again. The weight gained did a number on my body and I'm not going to deal with more damage from several kids.

One of you said that people who lose their bodies after pregnancy are just lazy. Not true. For some, having a baby changes their shape. Doesn't matter how much Adriana Lima exercises she will never have the same body as before (she looks great, but it's definitely not the same, woman barely has a waist now...other women do bounce back to the same or better, look at Jessica Alba).

Also, because I want a surrogate for vanity reasons I shouldn't have children or should adopt? How does that make sense? I'm a shitty vain mom so adopted kids should be the only ones to deal with that vanity? And I know I would be resentful of the pregnancy if I did do it, so really I'm setting myself up to be a better, happier mother. Not having carried them won't make me a bad mother nor does it mean I need to think twice. You think all women who are pregnant are selfless? There are plenty of teens who were selfish in not protecting themselves and being financial unstable before having a child who go on to be fantastic mothers. And FYI, I'm also planning to have biological and adopted children. I'm a very selfless person, too much in fact and here is finally a time when I'm drawing the line. This body is mine and this is what I want to do with it.

As far as using the money for better things like a college fund, that is not an issue. I'm a financially responsible person and highly value education. I'm not trading in 18-year-old Jr.'s college money to have butt implants here. I would be investing in a surrogate only when in a position to do so. No need to worry about the kids going to college here, that and beyond will be in their future.

As for it being a form of slavery I disagree. It's a seller's market and there are many consumers. No one is being forced. And if someone were to be pregnant for me for altruistic reasons (I was medically unable to have the child) you wouldn't be labeling the situation slavery-like.

I know you guys think I'll miss out by not being pregnant, and I will. But it's going to be fine, I'll be like all the other wonderful fathers who for obvious reasons don't experience pregnancy but "catch up" on the connection very quickly. Yes carrying a baby gives you a strong connection but vaginal birth plays a big role here. It's during the labor process that oxytocin is released. So if you had a c-section you wouldn't have had that surge. And no one here is going to say that c-section moms are less of moms.

Like someone said, if I'm getting this many negative comments while not being a celebrity and just speaking hypothetically then it's pretty clear why Beyonce faked the pregnancy. Thanks for the 2-3 people who kind of understood where I was coming from. Everyone has to do their own thing, so I definitely respect all of your opinions/choices--whether they match up with mine or not--nonetheless. And now to continue to lavish this child with all the attention it will forever get...

It's weird, but I actually see Jay-Z in her face too, but in a cute way. Hopefully the camel genes don't kick in too hard as she gets older, but sometimes ugly people have cute kids.

As for her coloring, a lot of black babies take time to get their full pigmentation, and same with the hair texture. Genetics can be weird.

I don't see how Biyonce thought she could pull this stunt off, the baby looks just like her surrogate mother from Mexico or Brazil

Do all babies have a lot of hair after they're born? I know nothing about that so....someone care to fill me in?
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Re adoption, surrogates, natural birth... There are legitimate reasons for choosing each one! As there are for choosing not to have kids. ;)

I have a good friend who's been trying for years to get pregnant and can't seem to, the hub would never adopt or have a surrogate. Seems a shame to me they don't consider other options!

OT: Bebeh's gorgeous but to me she looks like Prince (in the face). Though with a kid that young I can hardly tell it looks human, let alone whether she looks like the parents, so what do I know. hahahah ;)

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"What is that strange clear liquid dripping out of my eye?" MK

I had four children in 5 years, all vaginally. Before kids I was 5'5" and 125 and I am now 5'5" and 123 pounds, still in a size 2. I never gained more than 25 pounds, I ate well, and exercised. Just because you have a baby doesn't mean your body is ruined. Yes, I have a few small, white stretch marks on my lower abdomen but I had some just from growing as a teen, no biggie! My breasts also changed but not so much until after baby #3. My labors were all quick and painless (epidurals are amazing!)and no stitches were needed.

I am so happy that there are women that are willing to be surrogates for couples that can't have children of their own; I can't imagine a pain greater than wanting children and not being able to have them. If someone wants a surrogate for vanity sake, I think they need to really think about becoming a parent; to be a proper parent you must be completely selfless and that doesn't sound like a good start. I would take some stretch marks over not getting to experience the feeling of having your baby move inside you ANY DAY. There is such intense bonding that starts during that pregnancy that can never be explained. To each their own, I guess...

Oh come on now, super martian. Laziness? I do not think that word means what you think it means. I think you meant priorities. Some women have more important things to do after giving birth (you know, like taking care of a needy CHILD) than working out and dieting, not to mention most new mothers barely having enough time to sleep or eat properly as it is. Give me a fucking break.

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"I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done." -Lucille Ball-sy

I can totally see Jay-Z in the space between it's nose and mouth.

She does seem too pale for those two, though, even though I know babies can be pale, and mixed kids can come out all kinds of colors, but usually it's between the color of the two parents, although not always.

(I'm of mixed race myself.)

The head of hair is likely to fall out and grow back in somewhat lighter and curlier.

It is a beautiful child. What's with the perfect eyebrows?

I was a size 0 (5'4 and exactly 100 lbs when I got pregnant) and am a size 0 today. I have a six month old. Still 5'4" now weighing in at a staggering 103.

Pregnancy is not at all a death sentence.

And I had a c-section because she was breach, not vanity, but I was very happy to have one, just being honest.

Submitted by Amandachalynn707 on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 11:49am.

What a truly great story. How kind and selfless of you. Too bad there are not more people in this world like you.

Thanks for sharing your story.

Submitted by Amandachalynn707 on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 11:49am.

Wow. What a truly great gift you gave your friends.

I am usually as snarky as hell, but I really moved by your story.

I was actually a surrogate. I went to college, we own a house and have nice cars. We're not rich, but we're far from desolate. I was a surrogate for a friend of a friend. I had met her a couple of times. They tried for 5 years to have a baby of their own. They tried adoption at one point, got the baby, and then the father and paternal grandparents of that baby contested the adoption and won. They were heartbroken and did not want to risk that again. I found out about all of this while we were at a girls margarita night. I had two kids, got pregnant as soon as we started trying, was in labor for 3 hours or less both times, and was not even in need of ibuprofen after. I did have an epi during. It was so easy for me, and just listening to her made me feel like I needed to help her, so I did. They did not use my egg, the dr's grew an embryo and then placed their baby in my oven. So now you have at least one instance of a woman who is not in great need of cash being a surrogate. *tounge sticking out*

Some of you women are so weak. Saying the only way you'd have your child is by using a surrogate is just eye rolling. Pregnancy permanently ruins the bodies of *lazy* women who don't care to ever lose that extra 15 to 200 lbs they gained in 9 months but if you don't even want to go through a pregnancy on your own then you're already pretty lazy anyway so maybe you have a point and someone else should do the work of creating another life for you.

Love that arrogant note translates to here are the fake pics of the surrogates baby, now fuck off...still hate these fake ass ho's

Submitted by kokoskitten on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 11:40am.

Oh hell no! It hurt. I would never deny that in a million years.

Submitted by KidL on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 10:55am.

Re: some of these comments- Not everyone's body goes to hell when they have a baby.

I had a baby and within 5 days was back in my size 4 jeans. I didn't have to diet nor did I have any stretch marks. I had my daughter sans any pain meds and it hurt, but wasn't unbearable. I didn't pee or poop myself while having her but if I had, so what?
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What, no orgasmic birth as well?

Now I dislike the pretentious wannabe royals i.e Bey and Jz as much as the next person, but you all say "why didnt she admitt to use a surrogate we wouldnt mind it" But when bossy said she would want a surrogate to carry out her baby, many of you judged her and didnt act all that tolerant.... so imagine the backlash Beonce would get.

The baby is fucking gorgeous, but I really dont think its theirs.

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Submitted by Vern on Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:52pm.

Wow Allesssssaaaandro McGosling.

Submitted by KidL on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 11:32am.

I believe it. Look at Skeletina after having three kids. She's what, a size -2?

Hotmami on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 11:33am.

Slavery is slavery. Nothing 'reverse' about it when using another woman's body to bear your children out of vanity or any other reason simply because you have more money than the woman who will take the 9 months of risk, pain and discomfort.

I'm not even convinced that Beyonce used a surrogate. I was just stating an opinion on surrogacy.

But, you're right, my whole rant would have gone way over Bey's head.

As to Hekki's question, I think (just guessing here because I'm as white as white rice) black women using other women in such a way is like accepting a new kind of slavery which is why they might react differently to the idea.

So this was some kind of reverse slavery? Please. Beyonce doesn't have the brain cells to firm this kind of idea. This was about nothing more than her vanity and need for publicity.

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Time cast a spell on you but
You won't forget me
I know I could have loved you but
You would not let me
-Fleetwood Mac

Submitted by super-ette on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 11:21am

LOL!

Seriously, it's the truth. I wasn't saying it brag. I was just one of those women who carried small and got back to my normal size without having to do anything special.

I did get some puffiness in the face due to hormones and looked a bit jowly, but it went away.

Also, it was painful to walk for over a week. (I did have a slight tear, but I didn't need any stitches.)

It wasn't a cakewalk, but wasn't some kind of torture either. I also wasn't obsessed with having a "perfect" birth. I had my kiddo via natural birth, but if I needed a C-Section, I would not have felt that I had somehow failed.

And I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat.

Submitted by Hekki on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 9:07am.

In my particular white lady circle, there's not; and I know a few people who have used a surrogate (one gay male couple) and they're open about it and no one says a word about it.

Just being a smartass here, but how are two gay males supposed to pretend they had a baby naturally?

KidL, you and your size 4 jeans need to SIT DOWN.

KidL, you and your size 4 jeans need to SIT DOWN.

Here is my semi long-winded rant about surrogacy (please, bear with me, I just want to get this off of my chest):

Using a surrogate is akin to using a woman as a brood mare. Throughout history, women have been enslaved, prostituted, raped and forced to bear children they didn't want to give birth to. Even though slavery has been abolished, women are still often underpaid, undervalued and treated like shit in America (I will only speak for America since that is my homeland).

So, is a woman selling her body as a human incubator part of the female 'underclass'? What woman with means would allow her body to be a vessel for someone else's child unless she was desperate or destitute? Would you even want to trust a stranger to eat right, not do drugs and carry your child to term sight unseen half the time?

As to Hekki's question, I think (just guessing here because I'm as white as white rice) black women using other women in such a way is like accepting a new kind of slavery which is why they might react differently to the idea.

Please, by all means, prove me wrong and tell me that a woman of privilege and wealth would agree to be anyone's surrogate.

As to Beyonce, her baby is bootayful!

Submitted by Sandbitch on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 8:43am.

Baby suckandfuck Harper pisses all over Blue Ivy Carter!
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If there was a pic of that I would piss myself

Submitted by fleur_de_lis on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 10:28am.
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I agree with bossy and why should she adopt?? she probably wants to have a baby with her own genes, as you know you can have a surrogate as an incubator alone.

The only way Im gonna have a baby is via surrogate, fuck being preggers for 9 months, fuck the huge belly, fuck a c-section or even worse getting my Vagina streched out and sewed back up..yikes

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Submitted by Vern on Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:52pm.

Wow Allesssssaaaandro McGosling.

Re: some of these comments- Not everyone's body goes to hell when they have a baby.

I had a baby and within 5 days was back in my size 4 jeans. I didn't have to diet nor did I have any stretch marks. I had my daughter sans any pain meds and it hurt, but wasn't unbearable. I didn't pee or poop myself while having her but if I had, so what?

I saw an old friend of mine a few months after I had her and he said he never would have known I had had a baby unless I had told him.

My boobs did change after pregnancy and bfing, but they would have any way with the passage of time.

Honestly, I have no probs with people who use a surrogate for medical reasons but for pure vanity, it does sound a tad shallow.

There are several reasons to actually want to be pregnant including the bonding hormones, etc. that the body makes. I have known at least 2 couples who used surrogates and they said they would have preferred to carry the respective babies if they could have.

That baby is channeling Liza Minelli FOR HER LIFE.

Vegaschick I call your post major horse hockey to provoke.No one f'n TELLS their husband they are using a surrogate!!!
LMFAO!!!!
What jokester u r
Try again!
TAKE NOTES
Try young marrieds telling your husband you are using a surrogate!
Vegas Chick
You make no sense at all!!!!

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Never forget the folding belly. The Carters float above the rest of the planet. They lie, you believe.

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I personally don't think that a perfect body is worth letting another woman carry and birth your own child. You miss out on a lot...not to mention the money spent on a surrogate could be, oh I don't know, the baby's college fund.

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Time cast a spell on you but
You won't forget me
I know I could have loved you but
You would not let me
-Fleetwood Mac

Her hair is completely straight. I'm having trouble believing there's not something weird going on here.

I do think that there is a vast difference between medical issues and VANITY.
Again, you're better off adopting, if you don't want to fuck up your body but want kids.

Bossy, I agree 100%. I already told my husband if he wants a kid we're using a surrogate. I'm not fucking up my body for anything. Unless you have a shitload of money to spend on plastic surgery you will never look the same. I don't see what the big deal is, if you can afford to do it why not? It doesn't mean you'll be a bad parent because you used a surrogate. No one would say that about a woman who uses a surrogate for medical reasons.

Takes notes. It's never ok to refer to someone as fat (thanks Kunty Karl), but it's cool to shit all over a baby.

Be intrigued, be interested. DON'T be stupid.---TheBreakdown

Bossy - just got to say all of that you list is so not a big deal, most of it immediately forgotten after the fact and the later stuff may not even be an issue. I had not a single stretch mark and the weight came off from breastfeeding alone. It's all only a big deal if you make it one and again, all immediately forgotten. Having another woman carry and give birth to your baby will never be forgotten.

Jesus fucking Christ Bossy, how about adoption?

@this post: That baby is hella cute, I love the last shot.

Kid has nice hair.

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@ Bossy - other than that I agree with you for different reasons though. For whatever reason I gained 60 pounds in the last 6 years. I have enough stretch marks already and if I got preggers now I would be even fatter....but hey come to think of it: I'd be the perfect Tiara mom!

Submitted by Hekki on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 9:07am.

I am not black, but I am originally from a small town in the South, and I have a lot of friends, white and black who are very..."Southern," and a surrogate would be super weird to them.

@ Bossy - I hope one day you'll realize that your breasts will lose the battle against gravitation anyway?

Bossy, none of those things happened to me.
I had a c-section, and I didn't suffer any body consequences at all. Just slightly bigger, more droopy boobs, but they still look good.

I did hate being pregnant, not going to lie. But that's just because I hate people looking at me like I had a disease.

Submitted by Mas71 on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 9:53am.
293 comments.

276 of which the poster states they (allegedly) don't give a fuck....

Yet still posted anyway.
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don't forget the one whiney complainer!

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"I could listen to a babbling brook,
and hear a song that I could understand.
I keep wishing it could be that way.
Because my world would be a Wonderland."

Late to the party but, EH...this woman closed down the entire L&D wing of a hospital, to the extent that other parents could not see their children. How the FUCK is that down to Earth?!

She and Jay-Z are both despicable, ostentatious out of touch pieces of absolute shit, and this little girl will grow up to be just like them.

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Time cast a spell on you but
You won't forget me
I know I could have loved you but
You would not let me
-Fleetwood Mac

I hate Beyonce too much to waste my energy commenting on this picture.

All I can say is that baby is looking at her like "Who the hell are you?"

293 comments.

276 of which the poster states they (allegedly) don't give a fuck....

Yet still posted anyway.

Yeah I also don't understand why they don't admit that they used a surrogate. When the time comes for me to have a kid I'd like to use a surrogate--if I have the major money for it. It may sound selfish but I don't want the stretch marks, I don't want the agony of being on a diet to lose the weight after, I don't want to have a child forced out of my private parts, I don't want to be cut down there and sewn up to give room for the baby, I don't want to defecate on a table in front of medical professionals, I don't want my breast to deflate after I'm done breast feeding, I don't want the hormone imbalance, I don't want the face bloat, etc. It's just not for me. I'm fine with all the madness that will come once the baby is born, but I really could do without the pregnancy and birth. We live in a time where we have the luxury of contracting people to do it for compensation and I will graciously make use of that technology.