Monday, February 6th 2012

Blind Items: I Guess, You Guess

There is an area in Griffith Park where you can take the kiddies for a train ride. A certain actor used to enjoy taking men for another kind of ride in the same area. He would cruise the park, pick up a guy, and then hook up with them in his car. The really ironic thing here is that the actor is so religious that when he was a teen heartthrob (a couple of decades ago) he used to insist that any dialogue that was even the slightest bit sexual or profane be removed from his lines because they violated his sense of decency. He’s all grown up now – and still cruises for guys – but we’re sure his wife really appreciates what a moral man she married. (Blind Gossip)

The Prop 8-loving, gay marriage hating homophobe crazy that is Kirk Cameron? Please oh please let a future cover of The National Enquirer have one of Kirk's tricks on it with the headline: "Kirk Cameron Sucked My Growing Pain." It's the gift my 2012 needs.

He is a B list actor. Good looking. Generally television and very well known. His wife is probably a C list actress who used to be bigger a few years ago but has struggled with drugs for some time. So has our actor. The two of them are probably not your best candidates for parenthood in the first place and the stress of being parents while also trying to save their marriage and stay off drugs has not worked well. The mom is currently taking Adderall to lose weight and when that was not working to get rid of her pregnancy weight she turned to coke too. She wants to get back in movies but is too lazy to exercise so prefers the drug route. Although she has not snorted coke while breastfeeding she did snort coke while holding a bottle for her baby. Close enough? Oh and she dos breastfeed because she heard it will make her lose weight faster. As for dad? When he is not working on his show he is generally partying and drinking. He feels like if he can drink enough at night it keeps him off coke. He went to rehab for crack and tries to stay away from coke. Just booze for him although he is not above doing a little coke when he and his wife have friends over. Yes, while the child(ren) are in the house. (CDAN)

Eric Dane and Rebecca Gayheart? If this is them, then The Noxzema Girl should not go back to acting in movies when it's obvious that her true calling is writing books for moms who are trying to juggle their baby in one hand and their coke straw in the other. Gayheart proves that you can be a devoted mother and a huge coke whore at the same time. You can have it all. White Oprah can write the foreword.

Which C list film actress from a popular franchise, just got a tattoo (while she was completely wasted) on her inner thigh that says “Great Wall of Vagina?" (BuzzFoto)

Ashley Greene and I'm sure she got it a while ago when she was with Joe Jonas to match the "Great Wall of Mangina" tattoo on one of his ass lips.

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Oy Vay-enough with the religion shit. Just give me good gossip guesses.

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While we are off topic with Bible Talk I feel compelled to admit that I had an atheist "awakening" at 12 in the midst of my confirmation ceremony. Nevertheless, I joined a High Mass Choir at my local anglo-catholic church three years ago. I love the spectacle, frankincense, gay and female priests, f**king great music and bonus, parishioners who are mostly unpretentious and non-judgemental. You just never know.

On topic: definitely Kirk Cameron for #1

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I only dropped by this comments section to discuss my sympathy for any new mom who finds that the coca plant might help her through the day, because sometimes, damn, you get to levels of sleep deprivation that go beyond the beyond. I also wanted to defend the idea that snorting coke while holding a baby's bottle is a lot different than snorting coke while being the bottle yourself i.e. breastfeeding. But then I saw you were all having a conversation about the Abrahamic religions and I kind of lost my enthusiasm for the coke defense. Thanks a lot.

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how did this turn into the Religion thread?

If everyone in the world would just shut up about their own beliefs and stop trying to convince (convert) others, think about how nice it would be. In other words, IMAGINE.

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Best summation of Creationism: http://www.sullivan-county.com/images/sci.gif

Submitted by TheHeckler on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 5:54pm.
Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 5:01pm.
Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:50pm.

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:42pm.
Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:30pm.

These are the Abrahamic religions. Judaism first, the Christianity, then Islam. The Abrahamic religions are monotheistic, which means they worship one deity. In the Quran, Torah and the Bible, there are a lot of the same people, places and histories but they're interpreted as differently.
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I know that Dog. But seeing as about 50% of the world worship non-monotheistic religions, I'm wondering on what basis these are considered the three major ones. There is the same amount of evidence for paganism, christianity and scientology, therefore the only measure of validity is popularity- these are the only facts that apply to any religion.

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Dog's correct, but the only minor detail to add is that those religions are the 3 major religions of the Western world. That's basically how they are defined in any World Religions 101 class.

To add to that, the word "religion" is usually clearly defined, that's why one wouldn't be categorizing Christianity, Paganism and Scientology on the same basis in terms of "religion." They can certainly be comparisons made, but it wouldn't be because they are all defined as 'religions' . . . at least not in a religious studies course at most universities.
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Last I heard, Islam was not a western religion. Hinduism and Buddhism are amongst the biggest world religions, but maybe ones that don't fit into the Judeo-Christian bias of the west.

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Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 5:01pm.
Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:50pm.

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:42pm.
Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:30pm.

These are the Abrahamic religions. Judaism first, the Christianity, then Islam. The Abrahamic religions are monotheistic, which means they worship one deity. In the Quran, Torah and the Bible, there are a lot of the same people, places and histories but they're interpreted as differently.
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I know that Dog. But seeing as about 50% of the world worship non-monotheistic religions, I'm wondering on what basis these are considered the three major ones. There is the same amount of evidence for paganism, christianity and scientology, therefore the only measure of validity is popularity- these are the only facts that apply to any religion.

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I can only tell you what we learned in history class and what I've heard and learned over the years.
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Dog's correct, but the only minor detail to add is that those religions are the 3 major religions of the Western world. That's basically how they are defined in any World Religions 101 class.

To add to that, the word "religion" is usually clearly defined, that's why one wouldn't be categorizing Christianity, Paganism and Scientology on the same basis in terms of "religion." They can certainly be comparisons made, but it wouldn't be because they are all defined as 'religions' . . . at least not in a religious studies course at most universities.

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Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:50pm.

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:42pm.
Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:30pm.

These are the Abrahamic religions. Judaism first, the Christianity, then Islam. The Abrahamic religions are monotheistic, which means they worship one deity. In the Quran, Torah and the Bible, there are a lot of the same people, places and histories but they're interpreted as differently.
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I know that Dog. But seeing as about 50% of the world worship non-monotheistic religions, I'm wondering on what basis these are considered the three major ones. There is the same amount of evidence for paganism, christianity and scientology, therefore the only measure of validity is popularity- these are the only facts that apply to any religion.

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I can only tell you what we learned in history class and what I've heard and learned over the years.

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Bjork You on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:58pm.

Jesus fucking Christ...

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Please, please, please let the first one be Kirk Cameron! Didn't he make the Growing Pains writers change his lines and try to make his character all goody-goody?

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Jesus fucking Christ...

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:42pm.
Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:30pm.

These are the Abrahamic religions. Judaism first, the Christianity, then Islam. The Abrahamic religions are monotheistic, which means they worship one deity. In the Quran, Torah and the Bible, there are a lot of the same people, places and histories but they're interpreted as differently.
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I know that Dog. But seeing as about 50% of the world worship non-monotheistic religions, I'm wondering on what basis these are considered the three major ones. There is the same amount of evidence for paganism, christianity and scientology, therefore the only measure of validity is popularity- these are the only facts that apply to any religion.

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Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:35pm.

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:31pm.

What did ya see/experience that was unexplainable? :)

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Events in my life. Things that have no natural explanation. Everyone experiences different things. God is always on time and He is faithful. :-)

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Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:30pm.

These are the Abrahamic religions. Judaism first, then Christianity, then Islam. The Abrahamic religions are monotheistic, which means they worship one deity. In the Quran, Torah and the Bible, there are a lot of the same people, places and histories but they're interpreted differently.

Edited for really bad grammar.

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Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:31pm.

What did ya see/experience that was unexplainable? :)

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Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:23pm.

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:15pm.

Without being sarcastic.. it sounds like you're privy to something I do not know about (from the language you use). Could this experience you describe be defined in another way? Like say you lived in Asia or the Middle Ease and had a trancendalist-like experience and felt this overwhelming power of "unity" with the cosmos that helped you better understand and appreciate life.. could it be you describe it as "Jesus" because that is the best way you know to describe it and thus use the terminology you know? Like, instead of viewing it through a Christian lens .. I wonder if it would work with other experiences in other cultures?

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Not sure what you mean by that. You have to understand that any religion is based on faith. I have seen and experienced things that cannot be explained in the natural. No ghosts or anything silly. But no, I don't associate the cosmos as Jesus. Jesus was a real person, remember that. As for other cultures, I dunno.

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Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:44pm.
Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:45pm.

I'm sorry, but the three major religions have nothing to do with numbers. Please check your facts before you say things.
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Confused. In what way are they the three major religions if not in terms of how many people follow them? Please direct me to which facts I should be checking because what you're saying doesn't make sense to me.

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Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:15pm.

Without being sarcastic.. it sounds like you're privy to something I do not know about (from the language you use). Could this experience you describe be defined in another way? Like say you lived in Asia or the Middle Ease and had a trancendalist-like experience and felt this overwhelming power of "unity" with the cosmos that helped you better understand and appreciate life.. could it be you describe it as "Jesus" because that is the best way you know to describe it and thus use the terminology you know? Like, instead of viewing it through a Christian lens .. I wonder if it would work with other experiences in other cultures?

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Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:05pm.

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:52pm.

It does. :)

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There's a lot more to it (obviously) but that's a part.

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Submitted by oh dave on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:51pm.
Stop drinking the Republican propaganda oh Dave. The government does not take care of anyone except for the 1%.

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Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:44pm.

Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:45pm.

I'm sorry, but the three major religions have nothing to do with numbers. Please check your facts before you say things.
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If they have nothing to do with numbers, then who has decided and by what method are they determined to be THE three major religions?

Submitted by oh dave on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:51pm.
Stop drinking the Republican propaganda oh Dave. The government does not take care of anyone except for the 1%.

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Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:52pm.

It does. :)

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Submitted by ditquoi on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:55pm

That is very true. Not all humans are capable of critical thinking. I know quite a few folks who are happy not questioning anything and are happy with "that's what the Bible says." I've just never been OK with that. The Bible by itself is fine. But people don't always search beyond that or even KNOW it's ok not to accept the faith they were brought up by. I know humans are not always smart, some are downright arrogant, cause trouble, and seem to look to spite others because that is easier than being nice and accountable for your own actions. Maybe one day people can teach their children how to be good without a sacred text. If that child gets old enough to understand theology and decides to be part of some religion.. then that is his/her prerogative. But all I'm saying is that I hope we can get past the using religion to bring up our children thing.

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Kirk is fucking CREEPY, always has been. I feel somewhat bad for him, and worse for his wife if she seriously hasn't figured out what's going on yet.

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Andrei, honestly, no bias. it's right there in The Bible, the deviant behaviors people engage in when they don't think there's a God. the criminals who "find God" and all of a sudden are awesome people when, you know, they could have just been good people for goodness sake. even from experience, there are far fewer Christians who truly practice Christianity than there are bench warmers who go to church to sport a cute outfit and be seen and perpetuate the worst sin every other day of the week. people need religion.

if you think about it, being good for goodness sake requires advanced skills like critical thinking, delaying gratification, believing in every human as a member of a community instead of an adversary competing for resources, etc. not everyone is capable of that on their own.

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Andrei, for me, then.

Since I got Saved I have become much more tolerant of other people's faults, much less judgmental, much more likely to act than react in situations, I'm much more empathetic, slower to anger, and very few things bother me that used to. That's just the things I can think of off the top of my head. God hasn't just made superficial changes in me, He has made deep and fundamental changes that I could never have made on my own.

Does that kind of help you see at all? :-)

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People need a government so they don't have to be responsible for themselves. It's like a mommy and daddy. Religion is the same thing. If you are afraid to think for yourself you can choose a myth, or have it chosen for you when you are still a child. It's all part of the same thing, school, church, advertising, teaching you how to be a good happy slave until you die.

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Dog:

Again, theology. I could tell you to open up to a chapter in most religious texts and say "find happiness." Does not necessarily mean you will. I have read a lot of the Bible back when I was going to Sunday school. I understand the Bible in the sense of poetry and am not immune to the power of language. But I never thought to take the Bible literally.

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Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:45pm.

I'm sorry, but the three major religions have nothing to do with numbers. Please check your facts before you say things.

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Submitted by ditquoi on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:27pm.

I know quite a few people, both at work and at play, who are not Christian and work quite hard and don't need Jesus. I think your statement is a little bit biased because you are Christian and probably WANT the Bible to be around for quite some time. ;) To say "too many people need it" is interesting.. but I wonder if very factual? I can't say how long it'd take for Christianity, Islam, etc. to lose ground in areas like politics... but I'd hope sooner than thousands of years.

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Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:30pm.

Dog:

What do the "wonders" of accepting Jesus entail? :) Just curious.

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The real reason? Because Christ in you is the hope of glory.

Read Matthew, chapter 6 is a good start.

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How many deaths have happened in the name of 'religion'?

Many religions throughout history have violent pasts (and, some to this day are still actively violent).

Some Christian people believe in 'works' while others believe Christ died for their sins because no matter how many 'works' they do, they are ultimately still 'sinners'.

Personally, I sometimes waver between thinking there is a higher power and thinking that mankind created Gods/Goddesses out of a real fear of loneliness and the fear of their own mortality (that their lives were no more or less important than that of the life cycle of a butterfly or a goat or tree).

I do believe that faith in something that is inherently good is better than no faith at all (even if it is just faith in your fellow human to be more good than bad).

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I can see this being Kirk Cameron but the "train ride" makes me think of Silver Spoons and I think Rick Schroeder also fits the religious family man part. It probably applies to LOTS of actors if you believe anything Corey Feldman says.

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He was such a funny and sweet young guy. Never understood the change in his personality. He is praying the gay away. Barbarians must be tamed according to Bachman. Kirk is you typical Republican. Wonder what Mittens prays away when he spends countless hours being a psycho Morman?

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Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:18pm.

if religion ever were to end, it would be many thousands of years from now. too many people over too many generations have a vested interest in continuing to perpetuate religion. not to mention, as I said, it's the most effective means of controlling the masses. as I said, few people are capable of being good for goodness sake only, or are capable of being good up to a point.

'sides, I believe in God and the teachings of Jesus Christ. ;)

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Submitted by ditquoi on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:03pm.

Yes.. these beliefs based on fear did control people. It also helped fuel hatred and indifference. Now, in the age of science... perhaps the God hypothesis can slowly dwindle and become less obvious. At least in politics and other areas that should be secular. I wonder if a person could run for President as an atheist. I would hope so. But I do not think that is the case right now.

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Submitted by clairey claire on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:45pm.

Islam is one of the "Big Three" religions. You seem to have underestimated the number of followers it has, but that is not what qualifies them for inclusion in the "Big Three", regardless. They are part of the "Big Three" because Judaism, Christianity and Islam all come from the same source - they are all part of the Judeo-Christian patriarchal religious fraternity, as it were.

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Submitted by ditquoi on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 3:03pm.
Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:54pm.

well that's where I started getting confused...what happens to all the people who are good people and do good works but are not Christians.

I was always told that people who did good works but did not have access to the teachings of Christ and thus did not have the opportunity to accept Jesus as their personal Savior would be saved, but people who did good works and did have access to the teachings of Christ but rejected Christ as their personal Savior (read Muslims and Jews) would not be saved.

Mind you I'm talking about religion in general, not just Christianity. It is the most successful means of control and discipline known to man...particularly in the days when science, knowledge and information did not abound.

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This question came up over 1000 years ago. I kid you not. Christians were asking this and theologians developed an answer(s) for them. The idea of people who lived before Christ (like good people in the Old Testament) being left in Hell was pretty rotten. Thus, they waited in Limbo (which developed over centuries) and then went to Heaven after Christ came, died, resurrected.

As for good people who had no access to Christ's teachings, that's what the point of missionary work "initially" was meant for (let's not get into the complexity -- on a basic level here). Those who did not have access to the teachings but were good people, would be judged on their own merits . . . their hearts.

*insert 'the more you know' music here*

I have issues with organized religion and the misogynistic and homophobic Old Testament. I believe in God on my own and I don't see how I have to go to church to prove it. I feel like as long as I believe in God (which.. includes Jesus since God is a trinity - father, son, holy ghost) then that is good enough for me. Sometimes I feel pretty agnostic though. If not going to church banishes me to hell then oh well. God and I will have to agree to disagree before then casting me down into the eternal darkness.

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Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:54pm.

well that's where I started getting confused...what happens to all the people who are good people and do good works but are not Christians.

I was always told that people who did good works but did not have access to the teachings of Christ and thus did not have the opportunity to accept Jesus as their personal Savior would be saved, but people who did good works and did have access to the teachings of Christ but rejected Christ as their personal Savior (read Muslims and Jews) would not be saved.

Mind you I'm talking about religion in general, not just Christianity. It is the most successful means of control and discipline known to man...particularly in the days when science, knowledge and information did not abound.

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Submitted by Satan on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:45pm.
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Submitted by dementa on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:14pm.

Some people, believe it or not, really like to be good for good's sake alone. It actually feels good to be nice to people. Does anyone ever consider that part of the equation? Sure, being angry can release some frustration but then what?
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Paradise Lost, anyone? Pride. Pride. Pride.

Having said that, YOU, Satan, were almost painted as the protagonist, you sneaky devil.

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Submitted by ditquoi on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:49pm.

Sounds like an angry god. Even if I was good and Jesus-like on earth... just imagine all the other souls burning in hell and not me. And some of those "burning souls" might have been just as good as me, but not one with the God-delusion (religious).

Sounds patriarchal, extreme, violent, and like burning ants with a magnifying glass just because you can.

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Satan,

Okay, you're being 'good' for the golden prize that is 'heaven'...okay, what is going to keep you 'good' once you get to 'heaven' then after all of the 'golden tickets' have been given out and you're 'in' finally? If you are only 'pretending' to be good for a 'goal', do you really believe that's going to get you through the pearly gates? Do you really think God is going to let some phony into heaven who is only keeping themselves in check for some fear of not making it outta here alive?

it is said that God judges the heart and thus knows the difference between someone who does good things just to get into Heaven and who truly follows His precepts and thus does good works so as to be close to God in word and deed...that God will tell false prophets to depart from Him because He knows them not. point being, it's still the supreme being doing the judging and punishing, which is enough for many to straighten up and fly right.

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Submitted by Andrei on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:39pm.
Submitted by ditquoi on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:32pm.

I am a good person because I believe in humanity. I don't do good things to be seen "better" by a deity. Why can we not make peace on earth and heaven on earth here and now instead of just waiting until death to be happy?

you know that and I know that. I'd venture to say that most people are not capable of self-regulation without the concept of a final judgement and a supreme being judging their actions.

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Submitted by dementa on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:14pm.

this is exactly why religion continues to be perpetuated. a whole hell of a lot of people would do as you describe if it were proven that there is no God. because why would you go out of your way to be a good person if it doesn't matter in the end.

This is where it gets so convoluted.

Okay, you're being 'good' for the golden prize that is 'heaven'...okay, what is going to keep you 'good' once you get to 'heaven' then after all of the 'golden tickets' have been given out and you're 'in' finally? If you are only 'pretending' to be good for a 'goal', do you really believe that's going to get you through the pearly gates? Do you really think God is going to let some phony into heaven who is only keeping themselves in check for some fear of not making it outta here alive?

Some people, believe it or not, really like to be good for good's sake alone. It actually feels good to be nice to people. Does anyone ever consider that part of the equation? Sure, being angry can release some frustration but then what?

Submitted by Dog on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 1:18pm.
Submitted by Hekki on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 1:10pm.

*puts on troublemaker hat*

What's the difference between Christianity and Scientology and Islam?

*runs away and hides*

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Christianity is one of the three major religions. They worship Jesus.

Scientology is a cult. They worship money.

Islam is not part of Christianity but is also one of the three major religions. They worship Allah.

Judaism is the third major religion. They acknowledge Jesus but do not recognize Him as a deity so they worship God.

Most Christians, aka True Believers, worship the loving, living God - the God of the New Testament.

The Jews worship the God of the Old Testament.
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Judaism has far fewer followers than Buddhism, Hinduism or even Sikhism. It is by no means one of 'the three main religions'. There are about half a dozen really big ones, and about 6 more major ones.

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Submitted by ditquoi on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:32pm.

I am a good person because I believe in humanity. I don't do good things to be seen "better" by a deity. Why can we not make peace on earth and heaven on earth here and now instead of just waiting until death to be happy?

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Submitted by dementa on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 2:14pm.

this is exactly why religion continues to be perpetuated. a whole hell of a lot of people would do as you describe if it were proven that there is no God. because why would you go out of your way to be a good person if it doesn't matter in the end.

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Dog:

What do the "wonders" of accepting Jesus entail? :) Just curious.