Cynthia Nixon Doesn't Call Herself Bisexual
The soon-to-be Mrs. Rojo Caliente, Cynthia Nixon, caused a shit storm yesterday when she said that she chose to be a lesbian and that in her personal opinion she believes that for some hos it is a choice. Some gay activists lit her asshole up for giving ammo to homophobes and some homophobes gladly used that ammo by leaving comments on other sites like, "One of dem admitted it's a choice! See!" I just wanted Rojo to take me in her teddy bear arms and hold me until bitches stopped screaming at each other.
Well, in another interview, Cynthia gets into her sexuality more. Cynthia says that when she was with a dude, she loved that dude with her heart and loved his peen with her poon. Now that she's with the most beautiful lesbian in the world, she loves that woman with her heart, and loves that woman's poon with her poon. But Cynthia doesn't consider herself bisexual, because nobody likes bisexuals. This is a piece of her conversation with The Daily Beast's Kevin Sessums:
KS: Were you a lesbian in a heterosexual relationship? Or are you now a heterosexual in a lesbian relationship? That quote seemed like you were fudging a bit.CN: It’s so not fudging. It’s so not. I think for gay people who feel 100 percent gay, it doesn’t make any sense. And for straight people who feel 100 percent straight, it doesn’t make any sense. I don’t pull out the “bisexual” word because nobody likes the bisexuals. Everybody likes to dump on the bisexuals.
KS: But it is the “B” in LGBT.
CN: I know. But we get no respect.
KS: You just said “we,” so you must self-identify as one.
CN: I just don’t like to pull out that word. But I do completely feel that when I was in relationships with men, I was in love and in lust with those men. And then I met Christine and I fell in love and lust with her. I am completely the same person and I was not walking around in some kind of fog. I just responded to the people in front of me the way I truly felt.
So Cynthia thinks that bisexuals don't get any respect and that's her reason for not identifying as one? The hell kind of logic is that? Dumb sluts don't get any respect, but that doesn't stop me from proudly proclaiming that I am one, because maybe one day we'll get the respect we deserve (we won't). Oh, Cynthia. This is a mess. But if Cynthia thinks she's a whateversexual, then she's a whateversexual. It's her sexuality and she can define it any way she wants.
Personally, when it comes to sexuality the only questions I ever have are: Do you have a peen? How big is it? Can I see it? Why did you just throw that drink in my face? Can you do it again?
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Submitted by emme on Wed, 01/25/2012 - 2:00pm.
when will americans stop telling everyone what and how they should think?
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When will the rest of the world stop being so gay?
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Submitted by stinkbutt on Mon, 03/29/2010 - 5:47pm.
suckandfuck, do us all a favor, and hang yourself. Oh, and your parents should be shot for raising a disgusting pig like yourself.
when will americans stop telling everyone what and how they should think?
in response to undinespragg (Submitted by undinespragg on Wed, 01/25/2012 - 1:09am.)
For all intents and purposes, would you prefer we 'label' you an idiot, lazy or just closed-minded? Just so we can all communicate effectively here and save some time.
Girl is confused or something. You don't "choose" who you fall in love with, you're either in love or you're not.
I feel sorry for Rojo that this dumb dumb is out running her mouth about their personal relationship.
straight gay bi - why is it anyone else's business who you are attracted to? that's what pisses me off about shit like this. it's your fucking private business. call yourself whatever you want, but dont let other people put a label on you just to make them comfortable. i am 100% not attracted to women but i think that's just chemistry. just like anyone else and who they are attracted to - chemistry. hope this makes sense i had 3 hours of sleep last night and i am foggy in the brain.
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Submitted by stinkbutt on Mon, 03/29/2010 - 5:47pm.
suckandfuck, do us all a favor, and hang yourself. Oh, and your parents should be shot for raising a disgusting pig like yourself.
Yup, I've commented enough on Cynthia and Rojo in the previous thread. Can't find the energy to react to the new statements. Team Let someone else talk now! This is an important topic that should be discussed more but your time is up Cynth. In the meantime, until the next person weighs in, I will live and let live!
"The only money shot you'll get is a load of tears to the face." MK
Next thing you know, bitch gonna claim she's Caublinasian! Every time Nixon opens her mouth, one of Caliente's manjina farts comes thundering out. No wonder her teefs have crashed to the ground!
I think she should just STFU!!
Normally I would say "..while she is ahead!".. but I doubt she was ever ahead >:(
By her own description she is Bi, whether she likes the word/label or not.
By running her mouth off and being a pretentious cow; she is causing damage to LGBTQ comunity, playing right into the arms of the haters and homophobes agenda.
STFU Cynthia...you are NOT that special!!!!!
Submitted by MagnificentChichis on Wed, 01/25/2012 - 1:16am.
That's the point: maybe your definitions, your languages, don't fit her experience. I think she has the right to define her own sexual experience and identity, especially since she's living completely out in her same-sex relationship, unwavering from her public commitment to equal rights for same-sex couples.
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Couldn't agree more.
We thought Rojo was a real man, so why is Rojo wearing a fish hair-do and rouge?
Isn't that rather nelly?
Also, We suspect that Cynthia's real problem is that she has no career!
That's the point: maybe your definitions, your languages, don't fit her experience. I think she has the right to define her own sexual experience and identity, especially since she's living completely out in her same-sex relationship, unwavering from her public commitment to equal rights for same-sex couples.
Some of you think she needs to embrace a certain label because members of that group need an advocate. Why is that her job? Why isn't it enough for her to be with the woman she loves, absolutely without hiding? Since when has she been hiding? People are doing a very poor job of reading what she said, instead focusing on one little phrase out of context. In what tone was that uttered? After what sudden blasts of criticism against her earlier honesty about having chosen first an opposite-sex and then a same-sex relationship? First people are pissed at her for "choosing" to be with a woman, and now they're pissed at her for not fully embodying some essential identity they pre-determined for her. Loosen up. Live and let live a little.
This is like the people who say they aren't feminist even though they embrace all its tenets, just because they don't want to be associated with the negatives connotations of the word. Grow up. It's tiresome. We have definitions for a reason--so we can communicate effectively.
Right, so she is one of those 'i dont like labels' and 'im more complicated than that' types. Stop being a pretentious bitch. Its not labels, its language, without it we would still be grunting at each other while out smashing wildebeest over the head with rocks.
What a cop out. I get so frustrated with something like this. As a bisexual woman, I couldn't find Cynthia Nixon's comments more annoying. I understand what she is saying, given that I'm bisexual, I may not be able to help being attracted to men or women, but I suppose I can CHOOSE which partner I decide to be with. That said, just because "people don't like bisexuals", you jump ship and cut ties with your community and dissociate? I can't tell you how many bi people I know say they are "straight" or "lesbian" just to avoid the mythology and nonsense some people have to say about bisexuals, which they say precisely because they don't understand, precisely because no one talks about it, precisely because people make themselves invisible. You shouldn't have to tiptoe around your identity so you can win a popularity contest. Gays and lesbians are making strides in society because they let themselves be seen and heard, have parades, rally for their rights, and fight for recognition. It's the only thing that has lead to progress. So bisexuals are the new community to discriminate against. Prejudice sadly has always been a part of society, do people tell people to change their race or stop being who or what they are? No, you work through it. You don't cower like a chicken or go run underneath some convenient umbrella, you stand tall and proud and if you have to, you explain what you are about when you hear a misconception. Nothing is going to change if this isn't talked about as a society, and the few bisexuals that are in the public's eye confuse the mainstream even more with commentary like this. I can't tell you how much this probably set progress back for many people, how utterly disappointing.
So, in the world according to Cynthia, she's technically bisexual but she'd rather go for some cerebral noncommittal definition of neither here nor there because she feels bisexual people don't get respect? Uhm...that's the point of advocacy brainiac. If she were really so righteous she would say "I'm fucking bisexual, I've loved men, I've loved women. Deal with it" but instead she has to make this whole dumb soliloquy about the fluidity of sexuality.
Ugh, how she gets any support for this is beyond me, even one "Cynthia is so right. QTF" is too much for me. Having names for things isn't wrong, it's not pigeonholing, it's not cruel...she likes men and she likes women, right now she's with a woman but she's had men. That makes her bisexual. What's wrong with that?
Just because you're biseuxal or you have beliefs about sexual fluidity (aka, you're bisexual and just pretentious) doesn't mean you generalize that and equate it with the feelings of others. This is your preference, your appetite, own it and don't try to create some special zen, hippy, contrarian faction for you and you alone and pretend it's the core of everyone's sexuality.
Bisexuals could use more advocates. She just doesn't want to piss off Rojo so she's pretending there's some complex diagnosis for her sexuality. Totally pseudo-intellectual and just absolutely bloody rubbish.
When it comes to feelings, maybe some things just cannot be expressed. She was born a free individual, not a spokesperson for the gay community.
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What the others are here for, I don't know."
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Wow, count me as another who had no idea who this "Christine" might be. Surely her actual birth name was Rojo.
I for one think Cynthia is 100% correct. Almost all gay people are born the way they are and there's no "choosing" involved. But sexuality can be flexible, too, and for some people it's flexible enough that they respond based on the individual person they love, and not based on the specifics or history of the plumbing. What's wrong with that? She's being honest even though it may not be the political statement that everyone wants to hear. We don't really know why she resists the label bisexual--maybe she just doesn't want to have another pointless argument about whether bisexuality is a choice or a natural orientation.
If you don't think there's any flexibility to sexual expression, then show me the person built in the DNA with sexual responses to things that have only existed for some tiny sliver of our human time on earth, like... lucite heels. Oh, shit, I may need another example...
Cholamom, I prefer it too!
It's like Cynthia was "Rojo-whipped" or "Caliente-matized"
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LOL Chola, I was like Who is Christine? and Does ROJO know?? I'm a dumb slut too MK, Can I see it, can I see it again, I forgot what it looks like.
She's inarticulate and would be wise sticking to saying things other people wrote for her to say.
As should most of Hollywood.
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Fair is foul and foul is fair..
I prefer Michael K's definition of it: ROJOSEXUAL.
I have to admit that for a moment, when I read, "And then I met Christine and I fell in love and lust with her." I couldn't figure out who Christine was. To me, she will always be Rojo Caliente!
That's proof that I read this site WAY too much. :)
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I AM on a drug. It's called Charlie Sheen. -- Carlos Estevez
Beyond Sick.
Submitted by Maggie69 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 9:25pm.
I'm sure you're right. It just seemed like to me, from my recollection, that her number was huge compared to the others. Carrie seemed to have had 5 just in a couple of seasons, so maybe I just thought all the numbers were higher.
I really don't give a shit if you fuck men, women, or both. I wish celebrities would STFU about it. There are so many shitty actors, musicians, artists, etc. that are put on a pedestal because of their sexuality, or ambiguity about their sexuality.
Let me be clear - I don't want to go back to the days when you couldn't be gay, for fear of being run out of town. I just wish people were venerated because they're damn good at what they do, not who they fuck.
good for her. the pc jerks on the left are just as obnoxious and small-minded as the homophobe's on the right.
i like that she stood up to both of them in one fell swoop.
yep she's officially an idiot i think
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"End well: this isn't going to." - MK
WHO.THE.FUCK.CARES?
Like I said in a previous thread, she's a perfect example of why stupid celebrity dumbasses like her should shut the fuck up. Yesterday she shit all over the ground with her idiotic ramblings about "choosing to be gay" (*facepalm*), now she steps in it by trying to explain how stupid she is. YOU'RE NOT HELPING, dumbass. She should just shut her piehole & concentrate on her work: making really awful movies about ugly women who magically are lusted after & desired by GQ looking dudes...
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"There's not enough liquor or therapy in the world to help me forget that..." - Archer
Miranda had 42 or 43 partners. I remember only because when I first saw it, I remember thinking "I'm 36 and I've only had 10. Is something wrong with me"?
Would love to know what Samantha number was.
...this relationship is just horrifying and tragic on so many levels...
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...'She’s a really nice person and I have great respect for her as an actress — and I think most actresses are c*nts with a capital K' - Mickey Rourke...
Well yesterday I thought she was confused. After that statement I now think she's an idiot.
I agree it shouldn't be anyone's business how you like sex (as long as it's not with a kid or doesn't involve murder/rape, like that).
Still, her argument - "I don’t pull out the 'bisexual' word because nobody likes the bisexuals."
That's LAME. "Bisexual" shouldn't be a dirty word anymore than 'homosexual.'"
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Maybe she's just tired of labels; breast cancer survivor, lesbian, hetero in a lesbian relationship, lesbian who was in hetero relationships.
I think she's wrong, and I think she's right. I'm close to her age, and when I was in my teens and twenties, bisexuals *were* looked down on as being "indecisive." I have to admit, I used to agree with that assessment. But as I've gotten older, I think it's probably much easier to find a fulfilling relationship when you're not so hung up on gender that you won't even consider a relationship with someone with the "wrong" anatomy, no matter how attracted you are to that person.
Where she is wrong is that yes, you do get to chose -- but not what you are. You choose what you *do.*
But she is a person, and entitled to her opinion. Just because she's with Rojo, that doesn't mean she knows all the gays and bi's(does an apostrophe belong there?).
I think she's trying to be honest for the sake of her older children, whom she had with a man she was with for quite a while. In a way, I think it's great that she's putting it out there that that relationship was not a mistake.
Now, as far as SATC goes, I hated the series, and I never saw the movies. I can only remember one episode clearly, and that was the one where Miranda was diagnosed with an STD and was supposed to make a list for notification or something. All the other airhead women had something like 15 partners, and Miranda -- the fucking stable normal lawyer -- had hundreds of sex partners.
Submitted by Hekki
She sounds like some people I know who just REFUSE to be defined. They're just too SPECIAL to be lumped in with everyone ELSE.
I just find it annoying that people can't just say what they are. Stop being so slippery. It's not mysterious or interesting. It's annoying.
This, exactly. Plus, bi-sexuals don't get any respect, so she's going to contribute to the disrespect by refusing to acknowledge that she is one, refusing to even use the word? What kind of fucked up bullshit is that?
I dunno...I don't think your sexuality should define you as a person. Maybe she's tired of labels. People are attracted people. The end.
That's just my take on it.
Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 7:03pm.
Everything you said fellow masochist. But lets preserve the hate, because if they do a third movie ( so help me God) and revamp the series with the younger Carrie, you can bet we'll have something to talk about for years and years.
Submitted by saltydog88 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 6:55pm.
Submitted by dementa on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 7:08pm.
^true - Angela Merkel stands for the germans, guess how I feel.
she should just shut her mouth. shut her mouth right now, because it's only going to get worse from here on out.
i'm all for discussing sexuality in the media for the sake of awareness, solidarity, etc... but there comes a point when you have to realize that if you want people to be aware of the fact that a person's sexuality is not a big deal and shouldn't define them, well.... then you should stop making it a big deal and letting it define you.
i do, however, kind of understand her reluctance with the term "bisexual." i'm often reluctant to use the term "bisexual" because of the negative connotations as well. we really do get shit from both sides. but furthering the negative connotations by refusing to use the term like it's a dirty fucking word.... that's not helping.
Submitted by saltydog88 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 6:55pm.
Well to be fair, the same is true of ANY group, like religions, political groups, sexual leanings. You can't pick which celebutard will stand on a box and yell that they are one of them, and then embarrass the entire group either verbally or in actions.
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Submitted by Hekki on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 5:12pm.
You, me and mastixa need to form a support club! LOL!
@Mastixa- I FELT LIKE A MASOCHIST TOO! Why did I invest an entire weekend AND 6 additional hrs of my life watching the SHITTY movies, that only pissed me off further with their horrible clothes (YES, I went there, because I thought Carrie dressed like a homeless slut who robbed Barney's once too often before she fell on hard times), STUPID dialogue AND dumb ass musings on life, or THEIR perceptions of!
That stupid bitch Candace Bushnell should be SHOT for writing the dumbest books of all time, that had NOTHING to do with feminism and freedom of choice, but everything to do with stereotypes of the worst that women can be!
OH LORD! I really need to calm down, but rarely do I find people who actually share my hatred of SATC, and particularly Carrie! I dream of Big, just cheating on her and dumping her for a 20something tart! THAT would make the next torturous movie bearable to watch.
Yesterday I had respect for CN.
Today - nothing.
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This is why it is so hard for the gay community to have any positive leaders/voices: We don't get to pick which already famous people come out. It really kinda sucks that every once in a while some celebrity decides to come out after lying to the public about their sexuality for years. Now there is this person who right off the bat is a liar but now they're going to try and give interviews, speeches, pose for magazines...ect They usually have zero advocacy training and are generally pretty ignorant about the LGBT community as a whole and the struggles of every day normal citizens.
Submitted by harlow on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 6:46pm.
amen, enough with the labels and shit.
"Fudging"? She fell in love with someone that happened to be of the same sex..enough with the labels! SHe's happy, her partner is happy- leave it the fuck alone.
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Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 4:50pm.
I HATE THAT SHOW!
Phew! Thanks for letting me get that off of my chest!
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Is you living my life? Except you win, because I didn't watch the second movie, I'm not even going near it if its on tv. Throughout all the seasons, I felt like a masochist , like why am I watching this fucking crap? Why am I doing this to myself? Just godawful, but I think the worst is the women who characterize themselves as a "Samanatha" or a Carrie". Shut up bitches, they were all miserable whores who said fabulous too much. I need to stop, I could write a thesis.
queers = drama. i miss the days when all this shit was kept in the closet.
Right back at ya, IG.
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Screw you guys, I'm going home!
I would leave this alone except that yesterday I thought I understood what she was saying and today it's obvious that she's a liar. Remember this all started because she was asked to deliver a speech, a message of empowerment, to a gay audience.
I fully support everyone's right to be as strange and mysterious about their sexuality as necessary or desirable, but that was not the case, and I'm sorry I tried to take her seriously.
The problem is that I don't think her actions define her as bisexual and I was willing to go with straight-then-gay, but she's fucking lying. This is the problem. This is why people don't believe bisexuality exists, and think that it's someone covering up being gay.
It's her business and I'm all for privacy, and I honestly don't know who either of these two are. I only see them on dlisted. But now I think she should shut her stupid mouth, and don't even bother to apologize or explain because she has no credibility, and seriously anyone that wants to fuck either of them is the Mother Teresa of charity fucks.
Yesterday I couldn't understand the hate from people identifying as bi, but today I see that you were right about her and I don't blame you for being upset with her. This changes things, because it's no longer a personal decision, but is exactly the PR move some suspected. I thought they were wrong, but I'm putting these two on perma-ignore and they can be gay, straight, bi, on there own time.
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CTH, I heart you.
Carry on.
I miss the days when people felt free to say, none of your fucking business, and then go on their merry way.
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