Joe Paterno Dead At The Age Of 85

Bravo Karen Flatts, BRAVO.

*gives standing ovation*

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What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?

Troy,

Sandusky retired in 1999, so he didn't work with Paterno after that. He was allowed to use the PSU facilities because he was a retiree and also ran some sort of kids sports camp there via a charity organization he formed. He wasn't working for Paterno when the assistant, McQuery, said he saw something going on in the shower.

I wonder how he was able to work with Sandusky. If I knew one of my coworkers was raping children at work I wouldn't be able to deal with it. Paterno was able to look this man in the eyes, knowing the heinous things he'd done and continue a professional relationship with him. He didn't let those kids down once... he did it over and over again every time he looked at Sandusky and remembered. I can't imagine working with a pedophile or working for a company that condoned that sort of behavior. Paterno obviously was as unbothered by this as the rest.

Thank you Karen! A man may be revered as a great coach but his actions in REAL moral situtations overshadow any during a GD game. "HE didnt molest those boys!!1!" NO. He didnt. But he knew it was happening and didnt care to see that predator charged. In my book he may as well been in the shower. If you witness a murder and say NOTHING/plead ignorance you are just as guilty as the murderer. He has blood on his hands too.

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Without going into graphic details it would have taken nothing to be appropriately appalled and if reporting it didn't work in one instance, to escalate it some other way. He probably couldn't forgive himself, don't care for him now, but I would have insisted. All a moot point now...

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Submitted by BubblesTate on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:20pm.

And he was pretty "old school" how would anyone like to hear someone they work with is molesting kids, HE DIDNT EVEN SEE IT HAPPEN- he did do SOMETHING, but for some being a Football coach equates being God-
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I sincerely believe that there is only way for ignorant, insensitive jackasses like you to understand that WHETHER OR NOT HE SAW IT HAPPEN, HE HAD A FUCKING DUTY TO MAKE SURE IT WAS HANDLED PROPERLY. Not just a "hey boss, I think little boys might be getting ass-raped here, take care of that for me, wouldya? Thanks Pal."

No, he should have insured that this was followed through on...and please pull your head out of your ass if you really believe this was the first inkling JoePa had that his pal might have a thing for kids. You guys are happy to believe he was a genius at football but apparently fucking braindead, mute, blind and fucking deaf in every other area.

The one way for you to possibly understand the real damage here is to see the physical damage inflicted on these children by their rapists. Clearly the mental and emotional damage is in some ways worse, but that's not so tangible...so how about you have to look at the pictures of an 8 year old boys anus torn to absolute shreds, with part of his rectum hanging out? Blood, innards and unrecognizable parts of a childs anatomy, all torn to hell because Penn State couldn't be bothered to ruin their "reputation".

Hell, some of these kids have died from their injuries...others have to have colostomy bags for life, permanent scarring, infections and injuries that permanently affect rectal control. A child cannot consent to that act, nor are they able to encompass the act without injury. Even if they do somehow come out physically "unscathed", they still have to live with what was done to them.

So Fuck you, Fuck Penn State, and I only wish JoePa lived a little longer to be hated by a few more people for a few more years. He got off easy. As far as I know his anus was still intact when he died.

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Submitted by Meatblocks on Sat, 12/31/2011 - 10:17am.
it ain't awesome until flatts shits on it.

Submitted by snowpiece on Wed, 07/08/2009 - 5:00pm.
Karen Flatts is always a cunt

Point conceded -- he didn't stand by and do absolutely nothing. He told someone then walked away from it. Not enough imo, and in the opinion of many others as well. (and if the whole point of your post was to "stir up a reaction" then you came to the right forum! LoL)

You can have your opinion and I will have mine. This man does not deserve to be honored like this. Period. His family can do that. This man had a responsibility, a duty even, to investigate those allegations to the absolute furthest extent that was possible. To exhaust all efforts to ensure that the kids that looked up to him and participated in his programs were not being mistreated. The lives of children were at stake. He did not do enough. Period. Nothing has come to light to date that would make me believe any differently.

I'm a Penn State alum.... this guy isn't the saint you all think he was (even before this all blew up). I wish the children that were molested while under his overall watch peace. I wish them nothing but peace. I wish Paterno nothing.

... not only is he merely dead,
he's really most sincerely dead.

Then let the joyous news be spread,
the Pedophile Enabler at last is dead!

Thank you, Mopa.

@Junebuggy:

Glad to have stirred up a reaction LOL.

I am not defending him, and do not get me wrong.
True that he did not do as much as he could and SHOULD have done, especially as such a public figure. Not true that he "stood by and did absolutely nothing." He merely did not do enough.

Do not forget who the real criminal pervert is here.

And as someone who has been a victim of childhood molestation, I can say that life does go on.

I rarely post on here because life is way to busy for me, but I have to speak up in this case....

There is so much misinformation going around about this that it's frustrating. I see so many people actually referring to Joe Paterno as a pervert, it's crazy. They hear little bits of info or gossip and run with it.

I wouldn't be so passionate about this if not for a few factors....I was a victim of sexual abuse for years as a child and I was also suspicious about the possible abuse of a child where I work (children are involved) and I did exactly what Joe Paterno did...

I was upset, shocked and didn't know what should be done, so I told my superiors. I figured they must have some sort of policy of how this should be handled. He was even more removed from the situation than I was. He was told by someone what they thought they witnessed, he didn't suspect it himself.

Like the saying goes....until you walk a mile in my shoes.

No one can say they would run and call the police if someone told them they suspected someone else was abusing children. It's easy to say what you would and wouldn't do if you aren't actually involved in that situation.

Everyone, including me, thinks they might have handled things differently in hindsight, but when confronted with what is happening at the moment, it's confusing and scary.

Should I be wished dead? Should I be villified and all my accomplishments in life be forgotten? Should I be forever tainted?

I don't think so and neither should JoePa, IMO. In all I hear about him, it was more important to him to guide students to be great men, not just great athletes. He could have made millions more elsewhere and lived in a fancy house. But, he wanted to dedicate himself to the community at Penn State, so he lived there in a modest house and made alot less money than he could have, much of it he donated back to the Penn State community.

R.I.P. JoePa.

Submitted by evil.little.f__k. on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:29am.

Despite the controversy surrounding this man, I am disappointed that this posting went without the sacramental "Rest in peace, Joe Paterno."

DListed, minus one point.
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This man stood by and did absolutely nothing while children were being molested. Those kids aren't going to rest in peace, so why should this sorry excuse for a human? The Governor is flying flags at half mast in PA. What is the Governor doing for the victims? At least DListed is keeping it real (never thought I'd ever say that phrase).

DListed, plus 1 million points.

Our Governor just ordered the flags to be flown half mast (according to the times leader).

He must have made the school big bucks.
A man who cared aboout his image and died a broken man. This scandal tainted him badly and he knew it.

I'd like to believe his conscience ate him to death...but sadly, I think he was just heartbroken that his legacy was irrevocably damaged. a fucker who'd rather keep his football program going than save innocent children would do that.

Absolutely no pass given from me for not continuing to go up the chain of command in REAL life, not the obviously fucked up totem pole of college sports. There is a personal accountability for each and every one of the people involved in the abuse not being brought to light and addressed for years. I couldn't imagine knowing children were being harmed and allowing the voice that should be protecting and saving them to die. Shameful.

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Despite the controversy surrounding this man, I am disappointed that this posting went without the sacramental "Rest in peace, Joe Paterno."

DListed, minus one point.

I can agree that McQueary is a piece of shit for not stopping or or calling the police. That still doesn't excuse a THIRD PERSON when they don't call the police. If that were the case, everyone who saw Kitty Genovese get murdered can say "oh fucking well, the first person who saw it should have called." Does it make any of them less horrible for not calling???

Submitted by Spaz de la Whoreta on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 1:30am.

I agree. I actually found a good read a while back about how Westboro is a scam though. I don't know if I believe it 100%, but the facts it presents are pretty solid: http://kanewj.com/wbc/

It's a business. They travel the country, set up websites telling you exactly when they'll be there, and using the most inflammatory statements all over the place, just to get someone to violate their rights for profit. Then they sue the military, the police force that was to protect them, and everyone that is around them for money. This is a sham, and it is a trap to get people sued. Every member of his family is an attorney. Phelps does not break the law. What he does is try to make you break the law by trying to punch your sensibilities about everything you hold dear, and then sue you and everyone municipality around him to the max.

This is a scam.

I don't know why people are over-analyzing this because to me, it seems very simple.

Paterno was notified that little boys were being touched. He didn't report it. His silence is still aiding and abetting as far as I am concerned.

May he rest in peace, anyway.

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The bastard can now feel the pain he didn't stop by his inaction and ego (if one believes that we feel all the good AND the bad we've done in life when we die, which I do). There's a case here where a woman turned in a pedo asshole first to the proper government agency per her job requirements and later to the police because the government agency didn't do squat. She lost her job! Fuck that, at least she did something. There are too many sick people in the world. Three incest families have been exposed here within 3 days. This in turn has exposed how incompetent and inefficient the social services can be here. One guy they'd known about for 5 years. Quite a few children suffered for 16 years because this guy ran free, including those five where people who should have done something didn't for whatever their excuses are.
This subject pisses me off!! Glad you guys are here since I know most of you understand.

Rot in hell you disgusting piece of shit. Anyone who violates a child deserves nothing less...
You are as guilty as the monster who actually raped those poor boys!
Oh, and take Mrs. Patrick Campbell with you. Fucking pervert pedo.

Submitted by Uncle Brain-fart on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 2:23pm.
According to TMZ, the Westboro Baptist Church is going to picket his funeral. Never in a million years did i think i would agree with those fuckers at one point.

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Submitted by Bree on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 9:11pm.

I almost died at this description of the latest piece of news...that Westboro is picketing Paterno's funeral:

This is great because no one cares. No one cares. No one cares. It’s like if your neighbor Paul saw that your septic tank was uncovered to prepare for getting pumped and he peed in it. You’d be like, “aw, man, Paul,” but you wouldn’t really care because the whole thing is filled with shit anyway.

This is like peeing on poop.
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No. I don't care what sort of rubbish Paterno was. Westboro has no right to picket anyone's funeral. Westboro are filth, with a filthy agenda, and I think as Momus the Sarcastic mentioned that the funeral is for the living -- I agree with that. Paterno's survivors weren't involved in any of this shit. Leave the funeral alone.

He's gone where the goblins go,
Below, below, below.
Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Pedophile Enabler is dead!

McQueery is a hot ginge though

McQueary is the red head coach who first hand witnessed Sandusky. HE should have gone to the COPS. and He should have stopped it. All he did was go to Paterno and tell him. Paterno didn't see it, but he at least told his superiors what he was told, and HIS SUPERIORS DID NOTHING.

Paterno never witnessed anything. The person who saw it should have physically stopped it and notified authorities. Not a man who hears about it. At least Paterno reported it.

The people who are responsible are Sandusky, Penn State board, and McQueary. Not PATERNO.

If he's lucky, Hell is actually a real place, and that's where he's gone. Because if the truth is that we're all reincarnated, and karma plays a part in it, this egotistical little shit is gonna have a REALLY bad future ahead of him....

One thing that has concerned me from the start is the timing of the release of the Grand Jury report--coincidentally coming so close in step with the announcement that Paterno was dying of lung cancer. I just can't shake the suspicion that had his days not been literally and visibly numbered, that report would have lain unread and unreleased until he either got hit by a bus, or finally did get a terminal illness. I wish I wasn't that cynical, but the cancer of Penn State extends far, far beyond the confines of State College...
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GAWD, I'm SO glad that despite all you hot sluts being snarky and obscene for the most part, you all possess a brain, smarts and common sense.

I've been saying this shit all day but people think I'm "wrong" or they pull the "we don't know what exactly happened" bullshit. Or my favorite? "HE DIDN'T DO IT, SANDUKSY DID IT!!!"

It disgusted me beyond words today to see so many people care more about a damn sport than they do a horrific crime against children.

If he was such a "legend", why didn't he use his influence to raise this issue if the higher ups of the law didn't do anything about it?

Having worked with incarcerated youth and as big of assholes as I think some are, I cannot fathom turning a blind eye if one of them approached me and told me so-and-so was abusing them/other kids.

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PA's child abuse laws are weak, at best.
http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/049/chapter42/s42.42.html

Had this happened in New Jersey, he would have been bound by law to report.

Because Paterno was college faculty, a "coach" (whatever his credentials were), technically, as far as I can tell under PA law, he was NOT a mandated reporter, and he was able to get away with turning a blind eye to the horrific and devastating abuse going on in his department.

That said, the school and its programs are accredited by several governing bodies, and should be under academic review. The Federal government gives funds to the school, which should be suspended on behalf of the taxpayers.

I personally agree with the posters who have the common sense to be outraged by this deceased man's willful and callous treatment of child sexual abuse. Unfortunately, I think a lot of this goes on in the "macho" sports world. May all doers and enablers BURN.

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I almost died at this description of the latest piece of news...that Westboro is picketing Paterno's funeral:

This is great because no one cares. No one cares. No one cares. It’s like if your neighbor Paul saw that your septic tank was uncovered to prepare for getting pumped and he peed in it. You’d be like, “aw, man, Paul,” but you wouldn’t really care because the whole thing is filled with shit anyway.

This is like peeing on poop.

I'm so glad there are sane people here. This is what I dealt with on Facebook all day:

Deb Rogers: Coach Paterno was a heck of a coach, he deserved more than the ugliness he got at the end of his career. He was a top notch coach and should be honored as so.
3 hours ago · Like · 9

Shane Macias: He got mixed up in the whole mess that’s going on now, but yes he was one of the best coaches football has seen
2 hours ago · Like · 1

Ashley Canale: Dickson RIP JoePa #legendsneverdie
2 hours ago · Like

Jaclyn Halona: RIP JoePa
2 hours ago · Like

Bub-Theresa Mitter: So sad ;( his family is in my thoughts. will pray for them
about an hour ago · Like

Veronika Blasek: Why is no one thinking about what he did to all those boys he hurt..So what he was a great coach he is a child molester who hurt young boys don’t forget that . All of you praiseing him.
about an hour ago · Unlike · 2

Audrey Kalai Kanekoa-Madrid Veronika. Read something. He was NOT the one who molested those poor boys. Unbelievable!
about an hour ago · Like · 4

Ellen Fitzgerald Joe Paterno was NOT a child molester….Jerry Sandusky is the one who is charged. Joe did what he thought was right, and the people in charge of that school are the ones who screwed up and decided to hide it instead of report it. Paterno is not to blame….Sandusky is to blame.
about an hour ago · Like · 5

Audrey Kalai Kanekoa-Madrid Well said Ellen.
about an hour ago · Like

Jaclyn Halona Seriously Veronica!! Wow have u been leaving in a shoe.
about an hour ago · Like · 1

Johnny SanDiego Hey Veronika - Penn State and BYU are the only teams to have ever won Division I cfb national championship w/o ever being on NCAA’s probation list. Joe Pa deserves the credit. He told his bosses - which is what he should do - it’s HIS bosses who are accountable - so pick on the right people to hold responsible.
43 minutes ago · Like · 1

Veronika Blasek So sorry wrong person just when I think what happens to those boys I got the name wrong I apologize.
38 minutes ago · Like

Rob D’Italia Poor guy, he literally died of a broken heart. He gave his life to that university, and in the end I think he just lost the will to go on… RIP to a great all around man, Joe Pa…..
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Bub-Theresa Mitter ‎@Veronika, Before you go and post something Like that you should have your FACTS right.
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Robert Eastwood You’re right Rob, he did give his “life” to Penn State and they threw him under the bus. RIP Joe
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Chelsea Braden Thank you to the people defending Joe. I was just saying this morning that he should be remembered for what he did for the school and NOT about the boys incident. I understand it was a big deal, but there’s more to him than what happened, especially for what others have stated about Sandusky and everything. It was very nice seeing the students last night holding a vigil and crying, it shows how respected he really was.
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People who know a crime is being committed and take no action have a guilty role in the crimes being perpetrated. Yes he told his bosses but he should have told the police. I can’t believe so many people are standing up for him because he was a great football coach when he knew little boys were being molested and didn’t call the police. I guess a football legacy is more important than children’s lives. People are ridiculous.

Yeah guys, raping little boys is a big deal but there’s more to him than that. MORE TO HIM THAN THAT!!! HOW DARE YOU!!

"he deserved more than the ugliness he got at the end of his career."

Really? Those little boys deserved a lot more too.

Submitted by Webberbear on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 2:59pm.
Submitted by Bjork You on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 2:53pm.
Am I the only one noticing the packages of the players?

No, Bjork. I think Sandusky's got them as his screensaver.
Not to mention what MK wrote about them...;)
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I wonder what more he would have done if Sandusky was raping him? Now, what I really want to know is, when are we going to have clear plastic pants for these players, nevermind the phones!? Also ah number four on my left yeah, please step forward. *salivates*

And now his potential testimony against the monster just got taken to the grave with him, after he had years to speak up. He fucked his own legacy. Children > stupid college football. Sorry.

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I liked the SNL sketch when the news of this broke and they had "The Devil" over at weekend update.

Anybody seen it? I almost died when "The Devil" decided to quit his job of evil-doing after finding out what JoePa did and vowed to return to his old job(Time Warner Cable Customer Service.)

And hell yes, it's Superbowl Precum day, woo! Just ran home from work to catch the second half of this shit. Hope the 49'ers win, because I have a feeling that The Patriots would get revenge should they meet The Giants this time around.

my attention went straight to the guy with the #2

*tell em get in line and kiss your ass MUAH!*

Even the outline of the dick of #4 and #2 REFUSE to point toward the now burning JoePa

Fuck this Paterno character. He and his ilk put damned football ahead of child rape. I remember when details emerged about the shower incident, a talk show host on the radio said "Can you imagine being the boy? How dirty, messy and humiliating it must have been?" I nearly vomited just thinking about it. And these fuckers acted like it was no big deal. I really don't understand the rabid nature of people's devotion to a totally silly game. That's the problem with society today...everyone is so shameless. It used to be death before dishonor, but now it's every man for himself, screw all y'all.

Submitted by Daniee on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 5:26pm.

Listen, when all is said and done (like when you die), his long life was about more than this. I also agree that funerals are for the living left behind. If people picket his service, they really are soulless.
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Be intrigued, be interested. DON'T be stupid.---TheBreakdown

Listen, when all is said and done (like when you die), his long life was about more than this. I also agree that funerals are for the living left behind. If people picket his service, they really are soulless.

More than a poor choice, more than choosing the worst option. Evil. Satanic. Disgusting. Paterno's toupee, I mean. Then there's the matter of boy rape.

What I find bothersome lately is the widespread shooting of the messenger, victims seen as perps. It's not hard to find those who think the boys had it comin', and the whole sordid affair should have been swept under the rug- which it was. Similarly, multiple sclerosis-ridden Marianne Gingrich is to blame for her sexy husband's open marriage proposal; she should STFU. What gives these days?

Submitted by TequilaTax on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 4:21pm.

Mike McQueary the witness has told many different stories about what he saw and what he did that day. He is scum and so is his whole family, his father is an embezzler.

What I want to know is: why did the guy who actually WITNESSED Sandusky raping a kid not step in and stop him? How come that guy isn't being put on trial or at least have his named run through the mud like JoPa?

That guy (to me) is the bigger coward.

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Joe Pa was a piece of shit. In the late 90's a player had to miss a practice to deal w/a family emergency and Joe Pa went apeshit on him. He screamed at the guy in front of everyone and kicked him off the team. Plus he always looked the other way whenever one of the players broke the law. Didn't matter what it was for and the whole community followed his lead. Two players fucked up some kid at a frat party and shoved his hands through a window severing all of his tendons in his wrists. They got off scott free.

Fuck Joe Pa and his legacy.

a football program meant more than stopping a predator from sexually assaulting and raping minors. land of the free and home of the brave, fuck yeah.

Submitted by Poopele on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 3:37pm.

Poopy, what galaxy are you from?

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Submitted by nunya_bizness on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 2:45pm.
Why did Sandusky not get a coaching job after Penn State? I have a hard time believing that no other schools tried to court and woo Sandusky to their programs after he was dismissed from Penn State. A lot of people had a hand in this dastardly affair and Joe Pa was one of them. Had Sandusky been busted cooking the books and stealing money, he'd probably be behind bars finishing up his prison sentence .

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Exactly -- everyone in the whole freaking universe probably knew about the allegations against him.

Sandusky had been accused of "showering" with kids before. Doesn't take a genius what was going on.

They all knew and did nothing and hoped the truth wouldn't come out.

It did. Live with your fucking legacy.

It is forgotten that one of the first railroads in the United States was The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. Even back then it was well-known that if you stopped in Pennsylvannia you would get ass-raped. So, you went straight from Baltimore to Ohio.

This is why Philadelphia was known as the City of Brotherly Love. A little south of Penn State they even called a city Intercourse.

Even people from West Virginia are afraid of being sodomized in the Poconos. If you arrested everyone in the state who had butt-fucked a child, the only one left would be Michael Vick.

That piece of remedial shit abcnews online coverage of this today makes me violent..."glittering career marred by ...sandusky allegedly acting inapropriately with a young boy" or some such. ALLEGEDLY.???ACTING INAPPROPRIATELY???? The affadavit graphically stated it was much more than that..it was rape. Fuck the mainstream media for sugar coating shit because an old man died. Guess what? That day the boy who was raped by sandusky..his soul died. That's a fuckload worse. And he never gets to have an peace. Lifetime of torment. And because he didn't call 911 and paterno called some pencil dick campus cop instead, or his boss he is complicit as well. He could have saved future kids from rape and also having their souls KILLED.

Submitted by Bjork You on Sun, 01/22/2012 - 2:53pm.
Am I the only one noticing the packages of the players?

No, Bjork. I think Sandusky's got them as his screensaver.
Not to mention what MK wrote about them...;)

Am I the only one noticing the packages of the players?