Monday, October 17th 2011

The Most WTF Moments From Rooney Mara & David Fincher's Interview With Vogue

David Fincher's Americanized version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, a family friendly story about a young Swedish maiden who falls in love with the Puff the Magic Dragon and gets a tattoo of his face on her back, is coming out in a couple of months and so he and the movie's Lisbeth Salander Rooney Mara spent a few days creeping out Jonathan Van Meter from Vogue. From reading this mess, it sounds like Rooney licks up the words that dance off of David's tongue and he's got her wrapped around his pinky finger. Bitch is directorized! Basically, it's same kind of relationship I have with Hostess Zingers.

Jonathan went to Sweden, where they filmed that shit, to spend a few days with David and Rooney, and he immediately figured out that if their relationship was sitting in a group therapy session and the therapist asked to say one word that best describes them, everybody in the room would shout the word WEIRD! I mean, if Daniel Craig thinks that shit is weird, then that shit is a new kind of weird.

As Fincher talks about the film, his heroine, Mara—with Salander’s awesomely strange hair, bleached eyebrows, and facial piercings—sits next to him, looking for all the world like a troubled college student who takes too much Adderall. She hangs on his every word, her eyes lit with admiration. Their relationship, it quickly becomes clear, is charged with the electric current of the mentor-protégée crush, which is both touching and occasionally uncomfortable to watch. Or, as Daniel Craig, who costars as a crusading journalist named Mikael Blomkvist, says about their working relationship, “It’s fucking weird!"

Then, at dinner, David and Rooney gave Jonathan a scene right out of Tommy Girl and Stepford Katie's dining room when he let her eat.

When a waiter appears to take our order, we are all looking at our menus, but I see out of the corner of my eye Fincher nudging Mara. He says with quiet seriousness, “You can eat.” I look up to see her reaction. Mara rolls her eyes, and Fincher laughs. “You can have lettuce and a grape. A raisin if you must.” She orders a piece of fish and barely touches it.

In the book, Salander is described as boyish and awkward, “a pale, anorexic young woman who has hair as short as a fuse. . . .” Noomi Rapace, the magnetic star of the Swedish versions, looked more like Joan Jett. “One of the things that make our version that much more heartbreaking,” says Mara, “is that even though I am playing a 24-year-old, I look much younger. I look like a child.” I ask if she had to get unhealthily skinny for the role. She says, “Umm . . . not really.” “It hasn’t been too hard for her,” Fincher quickly adds.

Motherfucker, what? I don't care if David was making jokes, you don't joke about eating. If David pulled that shit on my cousin, he would've gotten an under-the-table kick to the crotch and my cousin would've asked the waiter for a dessert menu because she likes to stroke it while she eats her main course. I say this with complete confidence because it happened to me when I made an eating joke in my cousin's presence. Speaking of eating...

Jonathan and Rooney ate on a tomb!

Lunch in hand, we head to her favorite park—which also happens to be a cemetery—only to find every bench occupied. “Is it weird to sit on a tomb?” she says. “It’s kind of perfect, right?” We walk over to one that is big and flat and low. “Is this a good tomb?” Laughing, we spread out our picnic on top of the ancient stone casket.

And finally, David talks about why he didn't cast ScarJo:

Meanwhile, Fincher was also screen-testing every conceivable Salander on the planet. “We flew in people from New Zealand and Swaziland and all over the place,” he says. “Look, we saw some amazing people. Scarlett Johansson was great. It was a great audition, I’m telling you. But the thing with Scarlett is, you can’t wait for her to take her clothes off.” He stops for a moment. “I keep trying to explain this. Salander should be like E.T. If you put E.T. dolls out before anyone had seen the movie, they would say, ‘What is this little squishy thing?’ Well, you know what? When he hides under the table and he grabs the Reese’s Pieces, you love him! It has to be like that.”

ScarJo as Lisbeth Salander?! Whose brain queefed that idea up? That's like getting Jessica Rabbit to play fucking Pippi Longstocking. Well, at least ScarJo now knows why at the end of her audition David sat there in silence like he was waiting for her to take her clothes off or something. But I think what David really meant to say is: "But the thing with Scarlett is, the bitch can't act." Fixed it for you, David.

And here's more of Rooney working her Bettie Page mullet for Vogue. You know, I sort of like Rooney's jacked up bangs, but only because it reminds me of this girl I worked with a while ago. She was a wannabe riot grrrl in the most tragic way and one day she came in with bangs just like Rooney's. Her hair was a mess! It looked like she was in a cult that doesn't believe in scissors so they cut each other's hair with their teeth. I was about to ask her if she burned her bangs while lighting her bong again when one of my co-workers saw her and shouted loud for everyone to hear, "Bitch, why do you have short bus bangs?!" There's nothing like a co-worker who says some wrong shit, so you don't have to!

Posted by: Michael K


Jesus, you people are fucking idiots. IT WAS A JOKE. She doesn't eat much so he kids her about it at the table. Get it? Obviously not...

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LMAO at short bus bangs. I have given my fringe that look before, now I have a name for when I get too scissor happy.

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What struck me about Noomi Rapace, and in the subsequent interviews I watched with her, was how intelligent she was and how she able to articulate (in English, no less) how she approached and portrayed Salander. You really got the feeling of her as an actress. The blurbs from this interview seem borderline misogynistic with Mara as a willing participant.

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Submitted by lilac wine on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 8:58am.

Am I the only one who was reminded of the movie Secretary?

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Nooooo you are not! Was the first thing I thought of too!

That scene in the bathroom... "one scoop of mashed potatoes... four peas..." I LOVE that movie, but that bit made me laugh so hard.

justincase's picture

Sounds like more mind control stuff which is too creepy for me to follow anymore.

As for this Girl series, anything that "everybody: is watching, reading, tweeting is not for me. It all seems so contrived and I try to maintain a little of my consciousness for myself these days. And so, back to The Seven Daughters of Eve, by Bryan Sykes, a great genetic mystery story which is true!

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@ Datura- thanks for clarifying! She & her sister look alike, no?

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I've only seen her in 'Nightmare on Elm Street', so that is not much, but if this is going to be her star-making turn, then so be it.

Hometrick is killin' it in these photos.

So for now? I give this one a pass and wish her well.

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Submitted by Twas Brillig on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 8:25am.
I haven't seen anything else Rooney Mara's been in, but after watching her struggle through the 7 minutes or so that she had to talk on "The Social Network" I can understand why she was cast as Salander. Difficulty effectively expressing feelings, limited emotional range, unable to connect with most humans - check!
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Wow. Excellent point! I loved Noomi in the Swedish films because she's obviously a talented actress and created a strong heroine, but she wasn't Lisbeth.

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Am I the only one who was reminded of the movie Secretary?

"Nowadays, you can get dick, kittens, whiskey, weed and nachos delivered to your front door at all hours." -MK

A character in Timon of Athens had "GO AWAY" carved on his tombstone.

My best friend from college used to hang out in the graveyard whenever she cut school. She said no one would ever look for teenagers there in broad daylight.

I think Rooney Mara looks just as Larsson described Lisbeth Salander:delicate, tiny and fine-boned with the face of a high fashion model. Noomi Rapace is gorgeous but she was muscular,menacing and sturdy, like an aging Romanian gymnast. Sven Bertil-Taube was the other great actor in the first film.
The third one had the most attractive red-haired actor I ever saw. Luminous eyes.

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I haven't seen anything else Rooney Mara's been in, but after watching her struggle through the 7 minutes or so that she had to talk on "The Social Network" I can understand why she was cast as Salander. Difficulty effectively expressing feelings, limited emotional range, unable to connect with most humans - check!

She reminded me of someone who has had a stroke and had to relearn how to speak.

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Submitted by miz cynical on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 6:52am.
This is ridiculous. I saw this girl on an episode of American Horror Story last week & she's already thin as it is!

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That was her older sister Kate.

I didn't take the "You can eat" in the article as a sub/dom kind of thing. I thought he was just teasing. (I got that kind of thing a lot back in my too thin days).

I enjoyed the books (actually, for the most part, I liked Lisbeth. She was an interesting character to get to know). They were my "on the plane" reads.

I didn't feel like the rape scene was glorifying rape or written to titilate. The terms the author used were clinical, and the whole scenario was so horrific.

I'm sure there's some sick freak out there who enjoyed the scene, but there's some sick freak out there who gets pleasure from all sorts of messed up things.

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pomme's picture

and the whole interview is an affront to Lisbeth the character OMG Lisbeth in Vogue Fincher understood nothing

pomme's picture

it's weird that a control freak as Fincher hates the authority

lucky for her that a lot of people haven't seen Noomi Rapace's performance as Lisbeth. anyone would pale in comparision. i don't see daniel craig as blomkvist either and david fincher sounds like a dick.

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This is ridiculous. I saw this girl on an episode of American Horror Story last week & she's already thin as it is! I know that by having lunch on a tomb, she wasn't violating or desecrating anyone's tomb, but still, death is the ultimate leave me the fuck alone. I think even while dead I'd be pissed that people were hanging arounf me tomb :).

Lisbeth Salander is one of the most fascinating characters in recent fiction.I think that's why the trilogy became an international bestseller,not literary merit.All three novels desperately needed better editing.The English translator could read a balanced line of prose in his contract but couldn't write more than five good sentences per page.

The same is true of the three Swedish films:Noomi Rapace's performance lifted them. The first was good,the others were not. Her version of Sally was mesmerizing.

Fincher is likely to make a technically better film.It's not an ordinary remake,it's a second adaptation. Hollywood makes its own versions of foreign films for the same reason that overseas production companies sell the production & distribution rights: MONEY. Every studio expects to make a return on investment,not art.

This is the same chick who played in the nightmare on elm st remake I think. Lets hope this remake is better.

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You think that her fringe is bad? It has nothing on the ones that eastern europeans in the russian area are sporting- theirs
start out super short on one side and then become eyebrow/

Ear length on the other side. So it just looks like a blind persosn
Gave them a haircut. And every single woman there sports them.

They look so damn bad. Posting from my phone, so everything is kinds jacked up by the looks of it :D oh well, hope you guys get thehe point.

Submitted by p-sav on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 9:09pm.
She's beautiful and her family owns two football teams - The Steelers and The Giants...how bad could she be?
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I didn't get the sense that Fincher's a douchebag. I'm missing something. What's so horrible about the "eating joke?" It sounds like she took losing weight for the role too seriously and he was trying to lighten her mood. I mean, I used to be anorexic and I'm not outraged by his joke.

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Sounds like Mara and Fincher have developed a nice Master and servant relationship there. When you start controlling someone's eating habits, that is some serious control/power dynamic action going on. Sure, he's her director, but this goes a bit beyond. She might as well be branded. And yet, I still don't want to see the remake of this move - the original is perfect, why fuck with the awesome?

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Submitted by Diana Crabtree on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 12:12am.

That haircut is "the Yolandi"
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YES!! She rocks it way better, too.

I agree that rape scenes normalize rape. It's one reason I probably won't see these movies, especially when they showed a clip of one scene at 6:30pm and it turned my stomach as I grabbed the remote to change the channel before the kids saw it. Crap Denmark talk show, put this shit on later at night. I realize my response is also based on my own issues, etc. but this isn't entertainment. Same with let's do a movie about a pedo. Blech.
Don't even know what to say about the interview. Weird!

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my goodness david fincher is a douchebag! reading this only makes me want to see the original more and bypass this version (also i hear the actress in the original totally owned the part).

swarm-of-locusts's picture

Did Fincher mean to come off like a controlling ass who dictates everything that the wee chick does on and off screen even though he's directing a movie that is anti-misogyny? Way to plus sell that movie ironically, dude.

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I swear they are gonna fuck up this movie.

why cant hollywood come up with original ideas instead of reshooting another movie.

are people so fucking lazy they cant read subtitles?

the hollywood version of this movie will be typical hollywood, blood, guts, gore, decapitations, car explosions, buildings being blown up, car chases, but HEAVENS ONE NIPPLE SLIP! OMG...

I am looking forward to Fincher's adaptation.

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That haircut is "the Yolandi"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bdeizHM9OU

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Haven't watched the movies but Noomi Rapace did look like a fucking badass, someone you'd be scared of if she was staring at you in a bar. This hollow-cheeked chicadee looks like the token "weird chick" you see in every season of America's Next Top Model.

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Submitted by caprica six on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 8:13pm.

Submitted by johnnysgirl on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 7:48pm.

Never read the books - saw the og films tho. I liked them, tho the rape shit made me cry. I can't stand to watch rape :
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((johnnysgirl)) The thing about that scene, even in the original version, is that it brought to light the quite common and frequent behavior and actions that young women were subjected to by men in power over them. Larsson had to script the specific experience. I mean, I know people know this, but they don't really KNOW (aka accept/understand) this. Don't know if I'm making any sense in this. It is still horrible, whether in novel-form or in life/movie.

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The problem with rape scenes is that they glorify as much as they condemn. They may claim to stand up for women all they want, but then they serve up rape on a platter for male readers to vicariously enjoy without consequences. They're the faint damn which praises.

There was no explicit rape scene in "Tess of the D'Ubervilles" for a reason. And not just because the censors wouldn't have allowed it. Rape scenes normalize rape.

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First of all, hahahhahahahhahaha!!!! at MK's coworker story!

Second of all, who is this bitch and what the fuck is she on?

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Well, I see David Fincher has fallen madly in love with himself.

Scarjo as LISBETH SALANDER? What fuckery is this? Lady Titsalot as an androgynous sexually-abused genius? Yeah, that would really drive home the horrors of rape and child abuse - sexualize it with giant tits!

I don't know how good or bad Rooney Mara is, but at least she LOOKS the part.

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Oh good, the Twilight for the Oprah book club gals.

Fujicat's picture

For a moment I thought Ali Lohan had gone through another transformation.

And I'm still trying to motivate myself to read that damn book which has been festering in my Kindle.

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SitInACorner's picture

Her sister is much prettier and far less "I will Susan Smith my child if you leave me"

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The chapter-long Ikea catalog descriptions in the books...those were ridiculous. Like, "Lisbeth hacked into the servers of the Central Bank of Sweden and transferred eleventy billion kronor to her account. She then proceeded to buy a table and chairs from page 6 of the spring Ikea catalog, and also a tablecloth from page 7 for her new penthouse suite in the most exclusive neighborhood in Stockholm."

No joke, this is not far off ;)

As for the interview, well its Vogue...what do you expect. I think the movie will actually be alright, coz I like Fincher's other films.

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She's beautiful and her family owns two football teams - The Steelers and The Giants...how bad could she be?

I've only read the first book, and haven't seen any of the movies, but I really liked the book it was interesting and exciting.

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a family friendly story about a young Swedish maiden who falls in love with the Puff the Magic Dragon and gets a tattoo of his face on her back
ROTFLMAOOO I LOVE U MK♥♥♥♥♥

and fuck y'all I loved the books and the movies LOVED them, listen to me, I am Babcock!

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Now I'm glad I've never read any of the books....

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Oh dear...methinks they are trying to make it all sound soooooo wierd and Mr Vogue has totally drunk the Koolaid-in the meantime it all sounds soooo contrived and tedious.

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Submitted by Lucifer_Sam on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 8:33pm.

Submitted by madam s. on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 8:22pm.
Those books have always sounded stupid as hell to me

They are even more stupid once you start reading them.

lol, word

tinkuy's picture

Barely made it through the 1st book -- badly written, too much product placement. Pile o' sensationalistic crap. Glad to see that other DListers couldn't stand the series either.

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Submitted by madam s. on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 8:22pm.
Those books have always sounded stupid as hell to me

They are even more stupid once you start reading them.

i wish someone had called me out on my atrocious bangs before i was 18. i lived 18 years with those bangs! i need better friends.

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Already sick and tired of this chick and this stupid movie.

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Submitted by caprica six on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 8:13pm.
Submitted by johnnysgirl on Mon, 10/17/2011 - 7:48pm.

Never read the books - saw the og films tho. I liked them, tho the rape shit made me cry. I can't stand to watch rape :
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((johnnysgirl)) The thing about that scene, even in the original version, is that it brought to light the quite common and frequent behavior and actions that young women were subjected to by men in power over them. Larsson had to script the specific experience. I mean, I know people know this, but they don't really KNOW (aka accept/understand) this. Don't know if I'm making any sense in this. It is still horrible, whether in novel-form or in life/movie.

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Noomi nailed it. Don't know this ho really that's doing the bloated American version. I really don't see Daniel Craig though as Blomkvist. Noomi's quiet rage was quite something to see onscreen and as other posters have said, you can't take your eyes of Noomi. Guess we'll just have to see.

And I know the original movies look a little like made for TV movies and actually, I think they were or something like that from some article I had read a while back. I watched the originals with English subtitles. Loved them. But then again, I only read the first book, never bothered with the other two.