Chaz Bono Would Like To Talk To Brangelina
The documentary following Chastity Bono's transition into Chaz Bono airs on OWN tonight and so he's been making the media rounds to talk about that and his new memoir. One of those stops included E! News where Chaz talked with Marc Malkin about all sorts of things from why he borrowed the $10,000 for breast removal surgery from somebody other than his mom ("I didn't want to go to my mom with it because it was something she was struggling with.") to Shiloh Jolie-Pitt. Chaz volunteers at a support group for children with gender identity issues so he was asked what he thinks about Shiloh.
He volunteers for a support group for children with gender identity issues and their families. "I relate to these kids," he says. "The difference between them and myself is that I didn't articulate it and fight for it and say, 'No, no, no! I'm a boy!' I have so much respect for these kids that do."Bono doesn't know Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt and wouldn't assume anything about their daughter Shiloh's choice to dress more boyishly, but the media's attention to the story did shed some light on gender identity. "I would love to talk to them at some point," Bono says, "to at least let them know we have this resource for them if they ever need it."
Even so, Bono says, "People get too freaked out about kids and what to do with kids. If you just let kids do what they need to do they usually have the right idea."
Just because Shiloh is a tomboy today doesn't mean that in 15 years she'll tell all of us that she's a man trapped in a girl messiah's body. I mean, when I was Shiloh's age I wore my mom's pantyhose on my head and pretended it was a blonde wig. Do I do that today? Yes, I do, but that doesn't mean I want to be a woman. However, I still think that Chaz needs to spend some time with Brangelina, but only so Shiloh and Maddox can take him shopping to stores other than Men's Warehouse. Chaz was saying some very smart things on Oprah yesterday and the only thought that passed through my head was: "TORCH THAT SUIT!"
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CHAZ!!!!
I am sorry, I don't think Cher's difficulty with dealing with Chaz's female to male transition was such a problem.
I think it is tremendously difficult for her to face the fact that her child is DISGUSTINGLY OBESE, male or female.
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Sorry, double post.
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For all the people who were wondering whether Chaz's girlfriend is still a lesbian or is now heterosexual, I have the answer!
She is "DATING CHER'S CHILD."
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Submitted by CoconutCoochie on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 6:40am.
You seem to be quite ignorant yourself for still referring to Chaz as 'she'.
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How come Chaz ain't saying shit about suri's dicks in a box?!? DISCRIMINATION!
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"'They See Me Rollin', They Hatin' chariot is born!" -MK
This makes me a bit angry. Kids go through all sorts of phases; I personally was beyond a tomboy as a child, made everyone call me a by a boys name and insisted to everyone that I WAS a boy. I was totally preoccupied with hating being a girl and refused to accept that I was; I wanted to marry my female friends. Until puberty hit. Now: Straight, mother, dancer, long hair, dresses, makeup, FEMALE. I'm not saying that gender dysmorphia isn't a real thing for some youngsters, but I don't believe that any child should be pigeonholed and/or permitted to undergo any type of hormone treatment or any irreversable process until they are 18. My personal opinion.
Angelina sucks as a fucking mother to let the press publish pictures of her children, and talk about them in interviews. If that was my kid people were speculating about, my lawyer would be tearing each and every publication, and anyone who discussed her in the media, a new asshole.
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Submitted by christine the hoff on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 3:46pm.
Oh, yeah, and John Goodman called, he wants his look back.
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Just hit the mute button or turn your ears into vaginas (aka fold them over each other). - MK
Some of you seem to be confusion gender identity with sexuality. Two different things.
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I don't think she said anything wrong.
If anything she should have refused to address the issue, but what she said is ok. She didn't say the child has gender issues, she said she could discuss the issue with the parents if needed, considering what she's been through.
I also can't believe the ignorance of some of the comments on this thread.
People don't go through that out of boredom or to seek attention.
Transgender is horseshit.
This ugly Chaz chick still has a vagina and has no intention of changing actual genders. She just wanted some attention mommy and daddy obviously never gave her.
I think I'm a transgender lesbian trapped in a man's body. I could do like Chaz and call myself a woman, keep my penis, still get to have sex with women and even get free drinks on "Lady's Night". Hey, this Chaz is on to something! :D
For everyone on here talking about transgendered people being "sick and confused" do you seriously think anyone would go through the entire ordeal of having their breasts removed, their genitals remolded, taking hormones, ANY of that stuff if they didn't really feel like they were the opposite gender inside? Does ANYONE go through all of that drama and surgery and then a few years later say "oh, I think I made a big mistake I was just confused, I wish I could go back to the gender I was born in?" Very rarely does that happen so until you walk a mile in people like Chaz's shoes then please refrain from judging what you "think" is motivating them to do this..
Just because "CHAZ" is a lesbian and decided that she wanted to mutitilate her genitalia into something she emotionally feels makes her a male doesn't make her a male, but whatever makes life bareable for you, I guess. However, she really needs to keep her fucking lipS zipped about how other people raise their kids. Just because her parents were famous back in the day and her mother has alot of dragqueens parading around dressed like her, doesn't mean she has a right to tell other famous people how to raise their kids, or even be arrogant enough to think they would give a fuck about her opinion. I'm pretty sure Jolie has a few gay/lesbian friends she could talk too if she really wanted that kind of an input. "CHAZ" is like any other stranger. Having famous parents doesn't mean you're famous or automatically friends with every famous person on the globe where you can so kindly stick your nose in their personal affairs.To sum it all up. STFU!
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Stepping in and quickly stepping out. Some dumb, dumb, dumb (and sad) comments that are saying more about the poster's issues than Chubs Bono.
this gender identity crap is pure rubbish.
it encourages delusional behavior and should not be thought of as normal. cher's daughter just looks like some big fat slob who is living a lie.
science says you are still a chick there you fat crazy broad!!
Oh fer christ saké just coz the kid likes to dress up like a freaking pirate or whatever-now we're supposed to think the kid will want a sex change later on?
BTW-now Chas has become a man is there any reason why he cant hit the gym? -we get it Chas-your a big macho guy now but girls don't really go for the lard ass look….
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A guy on the radio was saying that parents who can't deal with their kids planning gender-reassignment should just say, "Sounds great. Me, too. Because I've always wanted to be a [father/mother] to a [son/daughter]."
chaz is a female who wishes she were a male but had the bucks to make herself look more like a man. and that's fine.
shilo is a little kid that should be left alone by chaz and her confused spew.
question. if chaz was acting the total dick at a bar, would it be offensive for a guy to cold clock her tits up?
i wouldn't because she's a female.
i'm just saying, she's still A woman to me.
For goodness sakes! I was a complete tomboy who hunted frogs, climbed trees, and ran wild and shoeless all over the place. Hell, my auntie cut off all my hair because I refused to brush it, and I turned out to be a perfectly normal woman. Well, not really perfect...or normal, but you get the idea.
also, the DSM-IV TR does not list a single solitary personality disorder for children (which gender identity confusion would fall under) because kids don't have a fucking personality. They're still working that shit out, which is why they go through so many different phases (tomboy, emo, astronaut, wtfever). So many kids have been fucked up by adults putting ADULT disorders on them, and so they begin to pretty much fulfill the role that has been laid out for them because their choice to figure it out themselves is taken like the poster below said who knew someone who selected a role for each kid and oila!
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Excellent, I was hoping you'd say that, because I haven't gone balls out crazy in a long time, and that's my favorite kind of crazy.-Veronica Palmer
Gender reassignment is a person's own decision, and if they feel that cutting on themselves will make them feel whole, that's their biz, though I don't think that it is any more profound a decision than to get other kinds of cosmetic surgery. Don't fix what's broken inside.
However, publicly discussing a little kid's possible gender issues bc she's got on combat boots is wrong for anybody. I don't give a fuck what your personal journey has been, yippee, but that little girl is old enough to begin to understand some of the fucked off shit people say about her. She seems hella happy with herself, but the more people make it a big deal, the more she will begin to think that maybe there is something wrong with her.
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Submitted by skinny fat on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 2:37pm.
"Someone please explain this to me. Chaz's girlfriend is a lesbian who fell in love with Chaz when she was 'officially' a woman, yes? So why would she want to be with a man? I'm very confused."
This would be what my father so eloquently refers to as, "crotch confusion".
Why are people already deeming a six-year-old to be gay or transsexual? This is ridiculous! Can't a girl just be a child without having to worry about wearing a dress or putting make-up on to satisfy society's gender expectations? The problem with society today is seeing so many prostitots and pre-teen girls wearing push-up bras, high heels, and carry make-up cases to school. Girls who are already anorexic and planning a boob job and plastic surgery before they are 18. Thank goodness there are still innocent children out there who could care less about that and just want to have fun. It does not mean Shiloh wants to have a penis or is a lesbian. She will already have to deal with enough criticism and attention for the rest of her life just for being the child of Brangelina. Why are we already deciding her sexual orientation before she does? Chaz should have never responded to that question.
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Submitted by little_rascal on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:08pm.
I love Shiloh's braided red jacket and I think she looks adorable. She's just a little girl, for god sake.
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ITA! I would have LOVED to wear that getup when I was her age. Hell, I'd wear it now if I had anyplace to wear it. Ball and chain never takes me anywhere…
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I love Shiloh's braided red jacket and I think she looks adorable. She's just a little girl, for god sake.
Why aren't we all admiring the Angie's Mickey Mouse balloon ears? I thought they were the highlight of the pics.
Oh well, on topic: I think putting extreme ideas into tiny, unformed minds is very dangerous territory. As all parents know, children can be 'led' into believing almost anything. It's a well known child training technique and should never be abused.
The assumption that a child is somehow mirroring the adult's own situation is pure narcissism - and any proposed intervention reeks of potential (subliminal) manipulation and should not be tolerated.
Does anyone else think that Chaz turned into a man because fat chicks never score?
Teaching kids to be secure and comfortable with themselves and then support groups that encourage sex change operations? Yeah that makes sense. Anybody that wants to cut off their penis or breasts has problems.
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People have no fucking manners. I bet you if someone would talk to Bono about his weight, he would be offended. Listen you fat slob mind your business and do something worthy with you life other than being known as a transgendered offspring of 2 celebrities who actually worked for a living. Dr. Renee Richards has you over 30 years and that Arquette offspring has you by 4 years. Next thing we will be reading is that Chazz is pregnant like the pregnant man. Oh and no matter what demolition of your human body you committ to be a man you will always be what your DNA is. Next----->
Submitted by skinny fat on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 2:37pm.
Someone please explain this to me. Chaz's girlfriend is a lesbian who fell in love with Chaz when she was 'officially' a woman, yes? So why would she want to be with a man? I'm very confused.
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That's the question I asked own.com and should be answered tonight. Is chaz now a hetero and is his g/f still a lesbian?
Submitted by kanderso on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 4:02pm.
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Saying that Angelina makes her kids act in public in a certain way(i.e playing some sort of character) is CRAZY.....I know that ppl love to hate them and come up with bullshit conspiracy theories,but common some are too off even for the femalefirst brigade.
So yeah referring the just jared dig,well youd fit in well with the femalefirst patients.
Now you know when you just get fatter whilst taking testosterone shots, you need to quit a bitch called Sara Lee...It's nearly impossible for a bitch to become MORE morbidly obese whist taking testosterone. She can't even grow facial hair CUZ SHE'S TOO FAT. Don't believe me?
Exhibit A) Madonna...skinny as a pole with muscle defintion of a concentration camp survivor who pumped more iron than consumed any in the form of food and a nice mustache to boot.
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Chaz needs to sit down to gobble a nice tub of lard (trans fats of course) and shut the fork up.
If my mom was a tatoo'd ex heroin freak, my Dad was a bald guy with a room full of wigs and a forty year old pot habit, my brother's were communists and my sister was a deformed Ethopian, I would probably dress funny too. Hitler outfits mostly.
If I have to hear one more Chaz story...
A couple months ago, my mom was reading a magazine that mentioned Chaz. She yells to me:
"What happened to Cheryl's daughter? There's an article here about her son, but what happened to the girl?"
I had no idea what the fuck she was talking about because I'm like, 'Who's Cheryl'? Well, finally I understood that she was talking about CHER, and I told her that WAS the daughter, but she's now she's a man named Chaz.
So, then she goes on and on about how Chad (ugh) is going to be on Oprah and she's going to watch it. She called all of her friends to let them know that Cheryl's daughter is now a man named Chad and how they have to watch Oprah. I tried numerous times to let her know their names are Cher and Chaz, but to no avail. I gave up eventually.
Then of course she starts asking me does Chad have a penis? How the hell would I know? Does Chad's penis work like a real one? Do they elongate the clitoris?
This is my mother! My 69 y/o mother! So, I can't anymore with Chaz/d. But I do think s/he is just uncomfortable in his/her own skin. Isn't it called something like dysmorphic? Maybe wrong term, but there are people that alter their body because they have some sickness. I think Cher(yl) is the same.
My sister didn't own her feminine side until she was at least 20, and she's straight. If that was my kid she was talking about, I'd be PISSED. Shut the fuck up about other people's kids, and things you know NOTHING about.
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Who is going to start the support group for people whose lives are fucked up after being forced into early-childhood support groups?
I'd lend money to someone for maybe food or rent, but to get their tits cut off?
Sorry.
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I personally believe that this very insecure 'man' (any individual who changes who they are, are obviously not very secure within themselves) should be the last person to offer any kind of support to any child. And I agree with MK that she jumped to conclusions reguarding Shiloh's style. How does she know that she may just end up being a 'just one of the guys' sort of girl? This isn't a tell tale sign that she may want to change her sex altogether (though it may be). I also believe that Angelina and her weirdo lifestyle sort of influenced the child in this manner. Not saying that she doesn't naturally enjoy dressing in boyish clothes, I just feel that Angelina may have enabled it herself (buying more boyish clothes, etc.). And let's face it that IS something Angelina would do, just to prove how much of a 'liberal' she really is. *rolls eyes*
"I make myself sick, Get on my own nerves. Immature, insecure,Grown up nerd."
-Fat lip (The Pharcyde)
I think the fat man should STFU about Shiloh. Just kidding, LMAO. Shiloh is a cute, happy child who emulates her older brothers but that doesn't mean she'll grow up to be like Chaz Bono.
"If tommorrow was a gift, what would you do with it?"
I'm female and as a child whenever my friends and I played Batman, I ALWAYS wanted to be Robin....not Catwoman or Batgirl, it was always Robin. I grew up hetero and been married 2 times to men, so what does that tell you? I love makeup and shoes more than life itself and have completely lost interest in being Robin, except...every once in awhile I think how nice it would be to be a man because it seems like they have it EASIER! Especially since the start of menopause
Submitted by DirtyWhoreMouth: "...Though I would like to have a penis for a day so I can pee on things.. and jack off.. and get head."
I have a book called "Dick For A Day: What Would You Do If You Had One", which is a collection of stories edited by Fiona Giles. Written by women, with the premise of waking up with a penis which they are to have for 24 hours... Good stuff.
*pulls it off bookshelf to re-read*
I submitted a question for the aftershow and it was accepted. It freaks me out that Rosie or Chaz may say my name on television.
I now have the email/facebook address for an OWN producer. I'm filing that away forever!
Submitted by kanderso: "Whatever. We all know that the Children of the Brange express prematurely, hyper-defined personalities (tomboy, girlie-girl, obsessed with weaponry, etc.) only because their mother assigns these personalities and demands it of them (at least in public).
I know it sounds nutty, but some parents do this shit. My dad's mom had six kids, and all of them had a life-long role to fulfill. They were told you are the successful and smart one; you are the artsy one; you are the bossy tough girl; you are the trouble-making loser; etc., from Day 1 and they all grew up just like she insisted."
EXACTLY. I HATE THAT. My mother tries to do this with my kids. "Oh, you can tell she's going to be the artist" and "We all know who's going to be the math whiz!". I feel like she did that with my sister and I, too. Not as bad as some people do, but still.
I got to thinking on it and yeah, that support group? Bitch please. I was a total tomboy, didn't fem up til I was about 11 or so... so what? my cousin is a total lipstick lesbian, so what? you cannot judge these books by the covers. and wait for your kids to come to you, and meantime, make sure they're comfortable to come to you about ANYTHING.
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What a friend I have in jesus, I can say that
honestly. He's not like all my other friends who really don't care about me.
It is VERY NORMAL for children around the ages of 3-4 years old to play with gender. Doesn't mean much at that point, and yes, parents should NOT freak out if their child does it. I think Brangelina are doing it right and giving her room to explore.
But transsexualism is very real-and very rare, so I wouldn't expect to be able to relate to it; Vive la Difference!
AreyoufuckingkiddingmeBono to the millionth degree.
I wanna know who are these POS parents taking their kids to these support groups. Really, people? You're gonna take your kid somewhere so someone ELSE can tell you if your kid's gay or not? If he fits the fucking pattern? Is it really that serious to know for sure? To anticipate it? Christ. I was a tomboy too. I used to mimic my older cousin down to the way he walked. I also wanted blue eyes and kept shoving those carrots down my throat because Ma said they were good for your eyes. And guess what, my eyes are STILL shit brown. I mean is this really the kind of ponderous crap we want to put in these kids heads so early on? For cock’s sake, they’ve got time to freak out about their sexuality when they have their first orgasm on the see-saw. Or maybe that was just me.
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Submitted by Allessandra on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 3:32pm.
Submitted by kanderso on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 3:04pm.
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yep you sure do sound nutty,theres so much Conspiracy theories going around about Brangelina some of them are really sick and crazy.Also very sad...
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Oh, yes, I must lead a sad, empty life and be a nut job because I don't worship at the alter of St. Angelina.
I think you took a wrong turn at Google. Try searching JUST JARED.
Also, yes I'm being testy but FUCK YOU! I'm 38 weeks pregnant and ready to strangle everyone!
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Why is she always wearing a suit? That's strikes me as more odd than how Shiloh dresses.
Jolie & Pitt may be nothing but drug addicts but I hope they still have enough sense not to let that Chaz train wreck anywhere near children. Chaz is one sick bitch. "Just because I've chosen to keep my vagina doesn't make me any less of a man". Crazy talk. Her childhood must of been a living hell. That sex change stuff is crap - those poor people are just acting out ways to hurt their parents as much as their parents hurt them.
I keep reading that fat brings a lot of estrogen. If Chaz is committed to totally being a man, isn't he kind of working against himself by not dumping some more weight?
I know I shouldn't talk because I'm totally fat... but oh well.
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I am beyond hoffified
Oh, yeah, and John Goodman called, he wants his look back.
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What a friend I have in jesus, I can say that
honestly. He's not like all my other friends who really don't care about me.